The year before I moved to Oregon (1988), they closed down the Hanford nuclear 
installations because it was so old it was dangerous. see: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford
 
After I moved to Portland, another installation just north of PDX was closed 
down for the same reason. Apparently about 20 years is the usable lifespan of a 
nuclear reactor.
 
Most people who live in the area won't eat fish that come out of the Columbia 
River because of nuclear contamination of the water. There is also a fear that 
there is contamination of the water table. Of course there is also the urban 
legend about radioactive cats at the Hanford site. But who knows about that?
 
I do know that several European countries (France being among these) use more 
modern nuclear plants for their power, but I don't know what the safety records 
show on those. They've got to be better than ours, a big percentage of which 
were built in the 40s and 50s.



From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:42:44 
-0400Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

>Texas is the national leader in wind power and we have the potential to 
>meet the rest of our energy needs with solar power. In fact, if we put solar 
>panels on an area thirty miles by thirty miles in west Texas, we could 
.generate enough electricity to power the entire state at prices competitive 
.with new nuclear plants! 

Hmm.  Read that again, slowly.  "...at prices competitive.with _new nuclear 
plants_! 

Ever wondered why you haven't seen any new nuclear plants in the last 30 years? 
 Aside from the waste containment issue, they're really, really expensive to 
build (more so than new oil refineries!), and that cost has to be amortized in 
the retail price of the 'product'...So yeah, solar probably IS competitive with 
new nuclear; but neither is an affordable or near-term solution. 

Don't get me wrong -- I'm all for encouraging, subsidizing, incentivizing every 
possible form of sustainable energy.  But the graph of the onset of renewable 
energy does not offset the graph of post-peak-oil energy.  We've started this 
project way too late with way too little, and are in for some tough times 
ahead. 

Alex 
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