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From: Phil Winkler via Texascavers <[email protected]>
To: texascavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 4, 2014 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A conservation question


Beer is recycled via our urine.....


The Aussies (in Vietnam) always referred to their beer as piss.


On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers wrote:



I inherited the funky old refrigerator the Beyond Time team used on the surface 
to store those jugs of Michel’s urine. For several years afterward it gave 
great service keeping my Shiner beer cold.
-Frank Binney


From:  Texas Cavers <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  Texas Cavers <[email protected]>
Date:  Tuesday, November 4, 2014 at 11:58 AM
To:  Texas Cavers <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [Texascavers] A conservation question




Michel Siffre collected all his pee in gallon milk containers when he did his 
Beyond Time experiments in Midnight Cave in 1973 or so. I had the honor of 
carrying 2 of them out of the cave back then. I think we returned them to the 
earth right there in the desert.  


But, I have to wonder, what the hell is the point of doing this pee-cycling? 
Who are you helping?




On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:52 PM, David via Texascavers wrote:


I am posting this here because most cavers seem to be more environmentally 
conscious than most people.
What do you think of the idea known as pee-cycling ?
It sounds like a great idea to me , and I have been making a faithful effort to 
experiment with this for several months.
I have found that one-gallon jugs with a wide mouth work the best.  Examples, 
are Pine-Sol bottles.
One perk to this, is you do not have to walk down the hall to the bathroom in 
the early morning hours. 
Disclaimer:   I have absolutely no idea how girls would do this.
I assume this would be much easier in rural areas than the inner city.
David Locklear

P.S.  I am on a temporary hiatus, as I am downsizing and giving up half the 
floor of the quadriplex that I have been renting since February.  The apartment 
near downtown Houston is available now, but has slumlord issues.   Not sure if 
I am going to remain in the other apartment to 2016.  My 2 large aquariums are 
keeping me from moving.
At the moment, I am putting all my belongings back in my storage unit in the 
town of Brenham.  That process will take up most of November.  My desire to 
take advantage of the new light-rail was an epic failure, but that was partly 
because I chose the wrong location, and partly because this new extension of 
the rail-system is lame.
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