If you would like to get a company or private donor interested in donating large sums of money, it would help if the donors knew they could use it as a deduction on their federal income taxes.
Which leads me to ask once again (since the first time I asked this question it went unanswered), what would it take to make a donation to the Powell’s Cave gating project tax deductible? The last time I checked the web site, the Texas Speleological Survey is a registered 501(c)(3) organization, both Jim Kennedy and Jerry Atkinson are Director.s Was there no way that the money couldn’t have been donated to the TSS, which would then use the money to fund the protection of Powell’s Cave? Or failing that, through the TCMA? Why do we have these organizations in Texas if they can’t be used to leverage donations to protect these important resources? Diana ************************************************** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu (214) 645-6383 (phone) (214) 645-6353 (fax) > On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:09 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: > > What did you assume that isn't true? > > Caves and karst in Texas are an incredible resource that should be protected > and set aside - the case for which should be easily made especially when one > considers lack of green space as compared to American East and West. If Texas > cavers could reach around and outside of its own community, get funding from > private donors, one could not only gate dozens of habitat sensitive caves but > also set up a network of karst preserves. For goodness sake, there are 54 > SP500 companies headquarters in Texas! All that takes is ability to share > your vision with others, show them the resource you are trying to protect and > reasons why. And yes, sometimes take them above and below the ground, get > their hands dirty. > > And your concern is a nonexistent moral dilemma? > > RK > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:37:30 -0600 > > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : > > From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > > > Then why did you ask, for Pete's sake ? > > > > Jerry. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jun 23, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers > > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > > > > No change in my statement. If someone is philanthropic in order to gain > > > access to the cave, that's a > > > wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If > > > someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve > > > an incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not > > > the issue of the donor. > > > > > > RK > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:18:37 -0600 > > >> To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : > > >> From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >> > > >> When they ask ahead of actually donating, it's a tacit request. That > > >> becomes my problem. > > >> > > >> Jerry. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers > > >> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> If someone is philanthropic in order to gain access to the cave, that's > > >>> a wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If > > >>> someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to > > >>> preserve an incredible resource, that's your way of expressing > > >>> generosity - not the issue of the donor. > > >>> > > >>> RK > > >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------- > > >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:05:24 -0600 > > >>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : > > >>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >>>> > > >>>> Rafal, > > >>>> > > >>>> I'm not comfortable with donations for the greater good becoming > > >>>> entitlements for special privileges. It would be unfortunate if that > > >>>> becomes the principal reason for being philanthropic. > > >>>> > > >>>> As for resurveying Powell's Cave, there have been two survey projects > > >>>> of the cave since the early 1960s, and one fairly decent map made of > > >>>> the cave. Unfortunately, past efforts used whoever showed up at trips > > >>>> as survey teams, with little to no quality control of survey > > >>>> standards. The result was a mish-mash of excellent to awful surveys > > >>>> that was nearly impossible to compile into a good map. Any future > > >>>> effort will require a different strategy that may be too difficult to > > >>>> complete given the lack of project leaders and cartographers we have > > >>>> today. > > >>>> > > >>>> Jerry. > > >>>> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers > > >>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Further along those lines, do donors get a special thank you trip:)? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> When does the longest mostly dry cave in Texas get a more perfect > > >>>>> survey project and map? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> RK > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:55:00 +0000 > > >>>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : > > >>>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> How do we send in a contribution? Is there somewhere online I can > > >>>>>> donate? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --- > > >>>>>> Dessie Pierce, MA > > >>>>>> Licensed Professional Counselor > > >>>>>> Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor > > >>>>>> Certified Clinical Trauma Professional > > >>>>>> 11999 Katy Freeway > > >>>>>> Suite 509 > > >>>>>> Houston, TX 77079 > > >>>>>> phone: 832-735-0065 > > >>>>>> cell: 832-341-8880 > > >>>>>> des...@dessiep.com<mailto:des...@dessiep.com> > > >>>>>> dessiep.com > > >>>>>> It is important to be aware that e-mail communication can be > > >>>>>> relatively > > >>>>>> easily accessed by unauthorized people and therefore can compromise > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>> privacy and confidentiality of such communication. Please notify me > > >>>>>> (Dessie Pierce) if you decide to avoid or limit in anyway the use of > > >>>>>> email. Please do not use email for emergencies. Any advice given > > >>>>>> without a contract for professional services does not constitute > > >>>>>> counseling in any manner and should not be relied upon. Information > > >>>>>> contained within and accompanying this message is confidential, > > >>>>>> intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If > > >>>>>> the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are > > >>>>>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this > > >>>>>> message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in > > >>>>>> error, please immediately notify me by telephone at 832-735-0065 or > > >>>>>> return the email and purge all copies of this message from your > > >>>>>> system. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 2016-06-22 20:32, Jerry via Texascavers wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Powell's Cave Gate Project update > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Jim Kennedy and company have finished the gate on Powell's Cave, and > > >>>>>> now it's time to pay for it. As you can see from the accompanying > > >>>>>> graph, we've received $1200 of the approximately $2500 that has been > > >>>>>> pledged thus far. Many thanks to all that have sent in their > > >>>>>> donations > > >>>>>> or pledged to help! - If you haven't sent in your pledged donation, > > >>>>>> please do so at your earliest convenience so we can pay the bills. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The graph also shows that we are about $800 shy of our goal. If you > > >>>>>> are > > >>>>>> thinking of helping out on the gate project, please do so at this > > >>>>>> time. > > >>>>>> Help support our continuing efforts to protect both the cave and its > > >>>>>> bats, and to demonstrate our commitment to the landowner. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Jerry Atkinson > > >>>>>> Powell's Cave Landowner Liaison > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > >>>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | > > >>>>>> Archives: > > >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/<http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers%40texascavers.com/> > > >>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing > > >>>>>> list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > >>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > >>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > >>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > _______________________________________________ > > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ________________________________ UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
