Jerry,
A great and comprehensive article. Well written and informative with great 
pictures. 
Thank you from lovers of caves, bats and all things related. Proud to call you 
a Texas friend. 
BAT LIVES MATTER!

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> On Feb 5, 2017, at 12:35 AM, Jerry via Texascavers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Chuck Sutherland
> 
> A Tennessee naturalist's photography, maps, and projects.
> 2016/11/20
> 
> Why We Don't Share Cave Locations
> 
> People often ask myself and other cavers to give them cave locations and cave 
> information. I always reply, "I don't give out cave locations". Not knowing 
> the history of reasons why I do this, I am often asked why. This is my 
> response.
> 
> We love to hang out with, and take new people caving. Some see us as stingy 
> stodgy keepers of secrets (and some cavers are), but I see myself as a gate 
> keeper. I am not all powerful, and I am fallible, but my knowledge extends 
> far beyond what an inexperienced caver (or spelunker as they often call 
> themselves) does.
> 
> That is important because the conservation ethic we practice on the surface 
> doesn't always work underground. Also the way we understand our environment 
> to keep ourselves safe doesn't work the same way underground. These two key 
> issues are the main reason why I won't give out cave locations.
> 
> First, let's address the conservation issue. If you consider the combined 
> historical, archaeological, paleontological, biological, and mineralogical 
> resources of a cave to be finite (which they are), then they can be used up.
> 
> We consume cave resources by destroying them. And history has shown us over 
> and over again that is what happens when the general public is aware of a 
> cave. Pictured below is a civil war ladder that was burned in a campfire 
> inside a cave no doubt by fools burning their own cultural history. That 
> ladder had been there from at least Civil War era, perhaps longer.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/6138611367
> 
> Geologic resources are vandalized. Folks spray paint on walls and formations. 
> They break formations accidentally and on purpose and remove them from the 
> cave. These resources do not renew on a timescale that humans can appreciate. 
> In other words, they will not return in our lifetime.
> 
> Bats and other critters in caves can be adversely affected by human presence. 
> A recent cave I visited had an estimated 500 dead endangered gray bats laying 
> on the ground because someone went through the cave during the wrong time of 
> year. I think that if the person had been properly educated those bats lives 
> would have been saved, and bats lives are worth saving.
> 
> I have seen caves that have been dug up where people were pot hunting 
> (looking for Native American artifacts). I have seen prehistoric Native 
> American art covered with modern day spray paint. And in case you're 
> wondering why the Native American's art is more important than modern spray 
> paint (yes, this is a stupid question that I am frequently asked) then please 
> bear with me while I use the rules of capitalism to assess the values of each.
> 
> Spraypaint - common, easy to find and reproduce. The value of knowing who 
> Johnny was with at this undisclosed period of time is virtually worthless 
> because it is in such prolific quantity. It's less than worthless, because 
> it's potentially obstructing other information of more value. See below.
> 
> Native American art - rare, difficult to find, impossible to reproduce. The 
> limited nature of this particular resource makes Native American art very 
> valuable by supply and demand. No one is selling this stuff, but for the 
> people who study it, it is highly valuable.
> 
> Below is a photo of modern vandalism adjacent to bear claw marks. Bears 
> haven't lived in caves in Tennessee for some time. I can't speculate as to 
> the age of these claw marks, but they may be Pleistocene. I wonder if the 
> vandal would have felt it so important to leave their mark in the mud if they 
> knew what it was next to?
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/30937515890
> 
> None of this even touches on the safety issues of caving. Briefly, we cave 
> with helmets, three sources of light, changes of batteries, gloves, boots, 
> elbow pads and knee pads, and a backpack with food, water, and a simple first 
> aid kit. That's the basic stuff. Developing an understanding of what clothing 
> to wear (hint: avoid cotton), and fine tuning your gear can be a long and 
> expensive process unless you have a more experienced group of people who are 
> willing to share their knowledge.
> 
> We like to teach people the conservation ethic that we learned. And we like 
> folks to be safe underground. This is no different than teaching your kid how 
> to drive a car before giving them keys. You want your kid to be safe, and you 
> don't want your kid to drive into someone's home and destroy it.
> 
> If you're interested in getting involved in caving, don't ask where caves 
> are, ask where cavers are. Many of us attend monthly meetings at local cave 
> clubs called grottos. I am a member of the Upper Cumberland and Spencer 
> Mountain Grottoes. This is where you want to cut your teeth in caving. You 
> want to meet people, network, and go on caving trips. We hope one day you'll 
> be the one finding new caves and leading caving trips.
> 
> Here's where you can find you local grotto, and learn more about caving, 
> http://caves.org.
> 
> http://chuck-sutherland.blogspot.com/2016/11/why-we-dont-share-cave-locations.html
> 
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> Jerry Atkinson
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