I agree with Allan & Linda.
--Ediger
On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:59 AM, Allan Cobb <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm with Mr. Loving on this. When I read that line about people without
wristbands being thrown out, it raised my hackles. I ran TCR for a few years. I
know the problem of people not registering. However, I never would have thrown
people out for not registering. Is this what the community has devolved into?
There are a few cavers who always attend TCR, TSA Convention, etc. who pride
themselves on not paying. I know who they are. When I would see them, at TCR, I
would sometime make a comment to them, sometimes not. These are the same people
who would pride themselves out of paying a $1 fee on TSA projects. There are
also cavers who paying the TCR registration would be a huge financial burden
due to hard times. I usually had a pretty good idea of who those were. All they
had to do was ask and I would comp them registration. I get it, I've had hard
times too. Some of them were too proud to ask. I knew that too. I would have
NEVER thrown those people out of TCR. They are part of the community.
I always heard people complain that they should not have to pay because they
don't want to eat the meal. That's is a good point but the cost of the meal is
only a small part of the registration fee. I've had people ask me to have a fee
that doesn't include the meal. To them, I answered that the more complicated
registration becomes that harder it is to get people to do it and the easier to
make mistakes. That said, here's why you SHOULD register for TCR, TSA
Conventions, etc. These events require money. We have to pay for the site, we
pay for portapotties, we pay for many incidentals. If you are one of those
people who think you are too good to pay or it is a game not to pay, you are
basically stealing from other cavers. You are directly responsible for raising
the price for all of the cavers who pay. They costs are fixed for many of these
events. The cost is divided among those who attend and pay. If you don't pay,
your portion of the cost, your portion of the cost is passed on to other
cavers. If you choose not to pay, at least thank all the people who did pay for
paying your share as well. "Throw people out" for not registering, bad idea.
Shame them a bit, I'm fine with that. I am no longer running TCR so I don't
really have any say in how it works. In the past, TCR has always been about
bringing cavers together, the new cavers and us old cavers. TCR has been about
friends getting together and hanging out. TCR has always been about seeing old
friends and making new ones. However, if "throw them out" is the spirit of the
"new" TCR, perhaps it is time to end this long running tradition.
Allan Cobb
Retired TCR Big Cheese and Caver Wrangler
On 8/29/2018 6:23 AM, Charles Loving wrote:
I wrote a nasty comment on the getting thown out for not having the proper
identity band but didn't post it. Old Man Wisdom
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:11 PM TSA Membership Chair <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all!
We're still a little over a month out, but I figured I'd start the waters
churning for volunteers to help in shifts for registration. I've got a number
of shifts ranging from 2 to 4 hours that need to be filled. I'll be there all
shifts, but I need one other person to help me out with paperwork and such for
each shift. I also need an outgoing personality to spend some time on Saturday
wandering to each camp area to make sure everyone has their wristband.
I have been informed that if you don't have a wristband this year, you will
be kicked out... so... y'all should all register as soon as you get to camp
(cash or check only this year!)!
I'll send out a separate email closer to the date with registration info for
those who won't be volunteering, so you know when registration will be open-
dependent on how many volunteers I can get!
If you are interested in volunteering, let me know in a separate email and
I'll let you know the shifts I've got still available! My email is
[email protected]
Also... we'll have cookies. You know, if you need some incentive to help.. ;)
Happy caving and even happier volunteering!
-Heather Tucek
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Go find out!
-Heather Tuček
TSA Membership Chair
NSS 59660
(512) 773-1348
[email protected]
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