George is good guy folks. I appreciate George! On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Ken Harrington <[email protected]> wrote:
George, You did good and several local people were able to attend because of your notice. I applaud your efforts to get the word out even if it was at the last minute. Ken Sent from my iPad On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:20 AM, George Veni <[email protected]> wrote: > I don’t see the point to this repeated criticism. I started my announcement > with an apology for sending it at the last minute because it was clear that > it would be too late for many people. I sent it because it may not be too > late for some and I thought it would be good to include them. If my > circumstances allowed me to send the announcement earlier, I obviously would > have. > > If anyone has further complaints about my sharing information over lists > designed to share information, please do so privately. > > George > > From: Jerry <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 06:01 > To: George Veni <[email protected]>; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! > > Well George, > > If it was important, why did you give us 4 hours notice before the meeting ? > Even If I lived in Carlsbad, I probably wouldn't have noticed your email > until it was either too late or had prior engagements. > > If you wanted to be inclusive, send meeting notices earlier. As it was, it > appears as a last moment "oops" or worse, just covering yourself for planning > in reverse. > > I believe the Region would like to hear of Zoe's results if she is around > during the upcoming Winter Tech. I promise we won't give her 4 hours notice. > > Jerry Atkinson. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Veni <[email protected]> > To: New Mexico Cavers <[email protected]>; Texas Cavers > <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2019 10:00 pm > Subject: RE: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! > > Why bother to post? I thought the reasons were obvious but since asked: > > * I don't have the e-mail address of everyone who might be interested in > attending. > > * There are a notable number of people on the New Mexico and Texas e-lists > within relatively easy travel range of Carlsbad who could make it with the > short 4-hour advance notice I gave. > > * Many cavers outside of the immediate Carlsbad area travel regularly to > Carlsbad, especially on Fridays, and they night be in the area and would miss > announcements sent only to locals. > > * I believe it is important to be inclusive, not exclusive, in getting people > news that might interest them. > > * I see no harm in sharing announcements, even if at the last minute, in case > some might benefit from them. > > In the end, the lecture went well and the room was packed. I don't know if > any people attended due to my announcement, but I noticed several who might > have. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 15:51 > To: George Veni <[email protected]> > Cc: New Mexico Cavers <[email protected]>; Texas Cavers > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Special Presentation at Carlsbad Caverns today! > > Jeez, George. Why did you even bother to post? Hopefully, we’ll get to hear > more at the SWR Winter Tech. > > Jerry Atkinson. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 7, 2019, at 12:03 PM, George Veni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I apologize for this last-minute notice. If you are in the Carlsbad area > > this afternoon, please consider a visit to Carlsbad Caverns National Park > > at 4 p.m. for a free public lecture by Zoë Havlena. > > > > Have you ever thought about the green stuff growing near lights in show > > caves? Folks call it "algae" but the proper name is "lampenflora." It is > > unsightly, damages caves, and has been a problem in need of a solution for > > over a hundred years. The National Park Service funded NCKRI to study the > > situation, and we have been working with professors and students at New > > Mexico Tech to come up with answers. Zoë's work covers the first of two > > phases of the study. Attached is flyer with details. Feel free to share > > this announcement and to come hear Zoë this afternoon and see what she has > > found. > > > > George > > > > ******************** > > George Veni, PhD > > Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) > > and President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) > > > > NCKRI address (primary) > > 400-1 Cascades Avenue > > Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA > > Office: +575-887-5517 > > Mobile: +210-863-6919 > > Fax: +575-887-5523 > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org> > > > > UIS address > > Titov trg 2 > > Postojna, 6230 Slovenia > > www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB41655C76184795D886CE6617A0100%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > <winmail.dat> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB416560BB1A1DD896842AE9F6A0110%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/BYAPR06MB4165300F33FF1111CF51C403A0110%40BYAPR06MB4165.namprd06.prod.outlook.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com [email protected] | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
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