Too many people. On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 8:02 PM Carol W Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Still, it seems there are things we can do, and must do, to slow the > process. > > We humans need to change profoundly the way we live. > It will take a large cooperative effort, at the individual level and at > government levels worldwide. > > We need to stop fighting wars and stop overconsuming the world's > resources, to preserve its natural wonders and wildlife, so that our kids > will have the opportunity to enjoy nature and, yes, caving. > > Humans are inventive. Let's work on it. > > Carol > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:58 AM JamesJasek <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There is almost no doubt that our grandchildren will grow up in a >> different world then we live in today. Our government has our country >> totally and completely screwed up I just don’t feel like we got a chance to >> survive I’m not so worried about myself but I’m definitely worried about my >> daughter and my granddaughter >> >> Jim >> >> Sent from my iPhoneX >> >> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Charles Loving <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *IPCC and the Green idea plans are based on the assumption that >> greenhouse gases can be removed from the atmosphere. That technology does >> not exist to scale needed at this time for obvious reasons of energy and >> land requirements. Paleoclimate records easily show us that you aren't >> going to simply stop global warming at +1.5-2 C by ending emissions (the >> current carbon dioxide equivalent concentration is 500 parts of million; >> 1700s concentration was ~275-280 ppm, even with other greenhouse gases). >> The 1.5 C report last autumn suggested another 0.6 C of warming was locked >> in based on recent emissions and we must be net zero carbon by 2050; but >> this is based purely on emissions from *humans*, removal of carbon on >> scales of hundreds of gigatons (basically removing what took plants tens of >> millions of years to sequester...bind as solid matter via plant >> growth...in *tens of years*...really? With what energy source...what land?) >> and fast feedback sensitivity. Water vapor...loss of sea ice and >> albedo...some effects from clouds...other feedbacks which are clearly >> showing an exponential behavior are simply neglected in models. Even the >> feedbacks which are easily seen and more quantifiable are accelerating much >> faster than expected. The Permafrost is melting fast, methane is spewing, >> the oceans are getting warmer, the circulation in the atmosphere has >> changed. Are we on the road to extinction? Now that is a happy thought >> isn't it. Our grand babies might be doomed.* >> >> >> -- >> Charlie Loving >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> [email protected] | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> [email protected] | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > [email protected] | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > -- Charlie Loving
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