Hi, - I'd really like to embed bibliography data in documents. Keeping a separate bibtex file is cumbersome and makes sharing and storing documents more tedious.
- I also think it'd be interesting to support basic database features in TeXmacs (for instance via a simple interface to sqlite as we discussed) and I like the features Joris proposes. - I don't like the idea of trying to develop a complete bibliography manager inside TeXmacs. Not because it wouldn't be cool (*especially* if one could annotate PDF documents in TeXmacs format, that would totally sell me into it), but because it would be so much work it would never be as good as a dedicated bibliography manager, even if it was better in some respects. Or so I fear. Also, aiming for a sophisticated system effectively sets completion time to "very distant future". Maybe some compromise can be found? Best, On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Joris van der Hoeven <vdhoe...@texmacs.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > We have many plans concerning bibliographies, and more generally, > concerning database facilities. Ideally, TeXmacs should maintain > a personal database of bibliographic entries for each user and > it should be easy to find citations in the database, put them > in a document, and get them out of a document by a co-author. > This system can very well be compatible with all existing standards. > > However, we are now working on fonts and several other things. > So everything at its time. > > Best wishes, --Joris > > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 09:02:41AM +0100, Andrea Gamba wrote: >> Hi Massimiliano, >> >> I think that the possibility of having the bibliographic data embedded is >> interesting, but should be provided as an alternative, and the possibility >> to use bibtex files should be preserved. Bibtex files are a >> well-established standard and many of us use them consistently for >> cataloguing bibliographic data. I, for instance, have catalogued thousands >> of items this way, and would not like to be forced to convert them to >> another format. >> >> I find it really convenient to have centralized bibtex files that can be >> used to provide smaller bibtex files via tools like pybcompact. I would >> very much appreciate the possibility to still make reference to a >> centralized bibtex file, but to be able to generate a bibtex-indipendent >> file (perhaps using amsrefs as you propose) only in the end, by selecting >> some item in the texmacs menu. >> >> Best, >> Andrea >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli < >> massimiliano.gubine...@ceremade.dauphine.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I would like to ask your opinion about the possibility of having >>> bibliographic data embedded in the document instead of having them in a >>> separate bib file. Personally, when using LaTeX I avoid to have bibtex >>> files around, I find better to have the data inside the TeX file using the >>> amsrefs package (http://www.ams.org/publications/authors/tex/amsrefs) >>> and I manage my bibliographic database using Zotero ( >>> http://www.zotero.org) which does not rely on bibtex files at all. This >>> has the advantage that the TeX file does not need a separate bib file to >>> run and also allow some more flexibility like having multiple >>> bibliographies in the same file (for example this is useful in a cv where >>> you have a list of your papers and maybe a list of external references, or >>> various lists of your papers according to different research subjects). >>> BibTeX is more rigid about this. >>> >>> What you think about including in TeXmacs the possibility of having the >>> bibliographic data inside the document and maybe also the possibility to >>> export a LaTeX file using amsrefs instead of bibtex. >>> >>> >>> Best >>> Max >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texmacs-dev mailing list >>> Texmacs-dev@gnu.org >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Texmacs-dev mailing list >> Texmacs-dev@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Texmacs-dev mailing list > Texmacs-dev@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev _______________________________________________ Texmacs-dev mailing list Texmacs-dev@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev
