Pranam
1 The impact of a heart vailing for nature coming out of the bottom of
the heart. I thought of releasing this under the Sri SKB YM combination on
science articles of yesterday about why science is dead. However it fits in
here too so in continuation of Sri YM and Sri SKB where we left it in the
past, the present and the future.
2 INTELLECTUAL DOWN FALL, EDUCATION AND THE SCIENCE IS DEAD:
Sri SKB’s aspects:
1 In fact, I have a feeling that India's intellectual downfall started
with Shankara and his philosophy of Maya which denied existential reality.
2 Following Shakespeare I would say, "Education thou art thine own enemy".
3 The US science education is most impressive. But it is also illusory.
In Chemistry all fundamental work was done before WW-II in Europe. The
post-war US was flush with money whilst other European nations were poorer.
The result was flashy synthetic work which meant nothing fundamental.
Chemistry 'ended' 30 years later. Physics endured a little longer because
of NASA and missiles. Electronics have a field day now. Again they are
harvesting what was found in the early 1900s.
All science research will become a commodities market in another fifty
years. Science is nearing its end. With that also will end
institutionalized 'knowledge'.
4 we differ in our perspective.
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1 The views expressed by Sri SKBji is not absolutely different
perspective from mine; even though a Physicist by curriculum, while I hold
the respect to SCIENCE, I should demarcate the respect by distinguishing
the modern era science which everyone dance around and the science existed
time immemorial, ascribed in in the Vedas and Vedanta. FOR THE WEST SCIENCE
MAY BE A PRODUCT OF 1600 AD OR LITTLE EARLIER TO GREECE, ARISTOTLE,
ARCHIMEDES, SOCRATES ETC WHO ARROGANTLY HID THEIR HEADS INTO THE SAND DUNES
LIKE AN OSTRITCH, TRYING NOT TO SEE THE VEDIC COUNTRY, WHERE THEY RESIDED
FOR 200 YEARS DIGGING ALL THE VEDIC CONTENTS RECORDING ALL OF THEM IN THEIR
LANGUAGE WITH A MYTHICAL FERN, ROBBING MANY LEAVES, RESURRECTING FROM THEM
ALL THE OUTBURSTS OF QUICK SCIENCE THE WORLD COULD NOT WITHSTAND THE RAPID
CHANGES.
2 In this connection I have to salute them for so many books written
in English translating ,though haphazardly, the entire Vidya of this
nation, which the host failed in giving them to the brothers and sisters of
this nation; while I have to accuse this nation for the failure to
highlight the ancient authors in English or any other language other than
the Sanskrit, of Adi sankaras to sayanas to Madwacharias and many authors
of the Brahmin and west Bengal chatergies of 1800 AD and thereafter. As
SKBji states in one sense the education is useless as 99.99% of the ONCE
LEARNED population of this present learned population, failed to read books
or read books of unimportance or never even where the libraries do exist.
((.99% were proud of their achievements which include the “THE- VID”
BRAHMINS OF THIS NATION 2% OF THE POPULATION (NOW SOME SAY IT IS 5%) .
There appears to be a light around the tunnel viz the youth of this nation
is beginning to feel about it; I do prey lest the elders do not act as a
spoke.
3 Sri SKBji’s regret that science has ended reveals his
knowledge of the science reporting. I also remember a similar recording in
the book THE END OF SCIENCE BY John Horgan a New York journalist in 1970s;
it was followed up magazine, Television interviews also. The crux of the
book is:
4 “ John Horgan contends that science—and particularly pure
science rather than applied science, technology and medicine—is coming to
an end. This controversial hypothesis, which has received wide attention,
has at once been greeted by consternation by many (but certainly not all)
in the scientific community while giving comfort to those who want anything
to do with science and technology to go away.
5 Einstein's theory of special relativity prohibits the
transmission of matter or even information at speeds faster than that of
light. Quantum mechanics dictates that our knowledge of the micro realm
will always be slightly blurred. Chaos theory confirms that even without
quantum indeterminacy many phenomena would be impossible to predict. And
evolutionary biology keeps reminding us that we are animals, designed by
natural selection not for discovering deep truths of nature but for
breeding.
6 For the most part these *over-reachers* have only one option:
to pursue science in a speculative, non-empirical mode that I call *ironic
science*. Ironic science resembles literature or philosophy or theology in
that it offers points of view, opinions, which are, at best, "interesting,"
which provoke further comment. But it does not converge on the truth.
One of the most spectacular examples of ironic science is superstring
theory, which for more than a decade has been the leading contender for a
unified theory of physics. Often called a "theory of everything," it posits
that all the matter and energy in the universe and even space and time stem
from infinitesimal, string-like particles wriggling in a hyperspace
consisting of 10 (or more) dimensions. Unfortunately, the micro realm that
superstrings allegedly inhabit is completely inaccessible to human
experimenters. A superstring is supposedly as small in comparison to a
proton as a proton is in comparison to the solar system. Probing this realm
directly would require an accelerator 1,000 light years around. Our entire
solar system is only one light day around. It is this problem that led the
Nobel laureate Sheldon Glashow to compare superstring theorists to
"medieval theologians." *How many superstrings can dance on the head of a
pin? * { KR yoga vasishtam speaks about multi universes in the edge of a
pin. }
7 In biology, we have the Gaia hypothesis of Lynn Margulis and
James Lovelock, which suggests that all organisms somehow cooperate to
ensure their self-perpetuation. Then there are the anti-Darwinian proposals
of Brian Goodwin and Stuart Kauffman, who think life stems not primarily
from natural selection but from some mysterious "laws of complexity" that
they have glimpsed in their computer simulations. {KR Yoga vasishtam
speaks about mysterious maya}
8 You can't determine the probability of the universe or of life
on earth when you have only one universe and one history of life to
contemplate. So, again, it is true that *answers always raise new
questions. But that does not mean that science will never end. It only
means that science can never answer all possible questions, it can never
quench our curiosity, it can never be complete* If you view atoms and
elements and the double helix and viruses and stars and galaxies as
inventions, projections of our culture, which future cultures may replace
with other convenient illusions*, then you are unlikely to agree with me
that science is finite*. If science is as ephemeral as art, of course it
can continue forever. But if you think that science is a process of
discovery rather than merely of invention, if you believe that science is
capable of achieving genuine truth, then you must take seriously the
possibility that all the great, genuine paradigm shifts are behind us.
9 In a way, all biology since Darwin has been normal science.
Even Watson and Crick's discovery of the double helix, although it has had
enormous practical consequences, *merely revealed how heredity works* on a
molecular level. Many modern scientists hope that advances in computers
and mathematics will enable them to transcend their current knowledge and
create a powerful new science. *This is the faith that sustains the trendy
fields of chaos and complexity*. I termed it in a single term,
*chaoplexity,* because, I realized that there is no significant difference
between them.
10 The fields of both chaos and complexity have held out
the hope that much of the noise that seems to pervade nature *is actually
pseudo-noise,* the result of some underlying, deterministic algorithm. But
the noise that makes it so difficult to predict earthquakes, the stock
market, the weather and other phenomena, *is not apparent but very real*.
This kind of noisiness will never be reduced to any simple set of rules, in
my view. At some point, we are drifting over the line from science per se
toward engineering. The model either works or doesn't work according to
some standard of effectiveness; "truth" is irrelevant. Moreover, chaos
theory tells us that there is a fundamental limit to forecasting related to
the butterfly effect. One has to know the initial conditions of a system
with infinite precision to be able to predict its course. According to one
of their fundamental tenets, the butterfly effect, many of their goals may
be impossible to achieve. {KR Yoga vasishtam says that nature is
unpredictable}
11 Neuroscience will not deliver what so many philosophers
and scientists yearn for. It will not solve all the ancient philosophical
mysteries relating to the mind and the mind-body problem, the problem of
free will, the solipsism paradox, and so on. Nor will neuroscience
demonstrate that consciousness is somehow a necessary component of
existence, which is an idea that is alluring not only to New Agers but also
to scientists and philosophers who should know better. The universe existed
for billions of years before we came along, and it will continue to exist
for eons after we and our minds are gone. {KR: all the Vedic scriptures of
India recited the same thing} Psychologists, social scientists,
neuroscientists and others seeking the key to the human psyche will
periodically seize upon some "new" paradigm as the answer to their prayers.
One paradigm that proves perennially alluring is Darwinian theory, which in
its latest incarnation is called evolutionary psychology. But as crucial as
it is for understanding life in general, *Darwinian theory does not provide
very deep insights into* human nature, as I tried to show in "The New
Social Darwinists," published in the October 1995 Scientific American.
12 N*anotechnology *often compare science to chess. The rules of
chess are quite simple, but the number of possible games that these rules
can give rise to is virtually infinite. One might have more confidence in
scientists' ability *to crack the riddle of senescence* if they had had
more success with a presumably simpler problem: cancer. The U.S. has spent
more than $30 billion on research. But overall mortality rates have
remained pretty much flat since 1971 and in fact for the last 50 years.
The best thing about making immortality the primary goal of science,
Sapolsky scientist said, is that it is almost certainly unattainable, so
scientists can keep getting funds for more research forever.
13 I describe an interview with the great philosopher Karl Popper, who
argued that scientists can never prove a theory is true; they can only
falsify it, or prove it is false. Naturally I had to ask Popper, Is your
falsifiability hypothesis falsifiable? Popper was 90 (in 1997) then, but
still intellectually armed and very dangerous. He put his hand on my hand,
looked deep into my eyes, and said, very gently, "I don't want to hurt you,
but it is a silly question."
14 So obviously any prediction about the future of human culture
is *an educated guess*, at best, at least compared to nuclear physics, or
astronomy, or other disciplines that prove certain facts beyond a
reasonable doubt. {KR uncertainty under BG, Tirukkural and Upanishads a lot
of. Also Perfect astrology of India is certain however, many do the
educated guess. I think my end-of-science scenario is much more plausible
than the ones that I am trying to displace, in which we keep discovering
profound new truths about the universe forever or arrive at an end point in
which we achieve perfect wisdom and mastery over nature.
15 We are not going to invent warp-drive spaceships that can take
us to other galaxies or even other universes. We are not going to become
infinitely wise or immortal through genetic engineering. We are not going
to discover the mind of God, as the British physicist Stephen Hawking once
put it. We are not going to know why there is something rather than
nothing. We'll be stuck in a permanent state of wonder before the mystery
of existence which may not be such a terrible thing. After all, our sense
of wonder is the wellspring not only of science but also of art, and
literature, and philosophy, and religion. “(End of his views)
16 As seen above, there can be different perceptions also. However,
the perception being duality may look apparent. But only one perception
will be the truth. Time would decide it. KR IRS 20221
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 06:30, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:
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> *Mar*Emotional-Vs-Mechanical
>
> Hell certainly is real. It is kicking and prospering. It is called
> economic prosperity. It is based on converting the entire Biosphere into a
> usable and abusable resource. In hell emotions and feelings get hurt.
>
>
>
> When you look at your parents, husband, wife, children, friends, your pet
> dog or cat, you want to interact emotionally and not interact with the
> digestion mechanical system, the kidney clearance system, the nervous
> system or any other mechanical system. They are not machines. They are
> entities of emotions meant by nature to
> breathe,smell,sense,perceive,understand,interact,help,love,belong,participate,all
> based on the climate. You live in emotions and feelings and they are part
> of the flora, fauna and geography of emotions. You feel as living by
> breathing.
>
> Climate means the emotions that result from temperature, rainfall, the
> resulting biosphere…the living emotional systems. Perception and
> understanding can only be emotional and never mechanical. Your family and
> friends are not mechanical systems. They are part of the weather and
> climate. You inhale and exhale emotions, as part of the climatic rhythm.
>
> When you poison the air, water, land and geography, you poison your
> emotional flow and emotional life. The gigantic Buildings, Projects, Roads
> etc built after the murder of nature in diverse living forms or emotion
> forms can never bring happiness. They are tragedies.
>
> Science wants you to be rid of emotions to develop the inanimate, non
> emotional, mechanical, scientific outlook and the mechanical or scientific
> temperament. You must attack your own breathing system to develop the
> needed mechanical temperament and start destroying nature for economic
> development.
>
> The net result of this science hysteria is the emergence of economic life
> based on the routine destruction of nature, involving the death and misery
> to every organism in the biosphere, and Lakhs of specie have become extinct.
>
> Perception and understanding are the collective symbiotic life of the
> Biosphere as a whole and can never be the isolated individual talent of
> human individuals. Alienation is suicide as living. We need the Biosphere
> for our emotional living, which is the only living.
>
> Now we are coming across persons, who simply write off every feeling or
> even reasoning even without reading or seeing, take pride in egoism and
> proclaim that they have written as they are entitled to show contempt. From
> emotional symbiosis, the drift down is contempt based antibiosis. They
> adore their contempt and if anyone shows liking to the object of their
> contempt, they attack.
>
> YM
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