Pranam
: Good thinking. However It is my apprehension that whether the caste
can be a philosophical thought at all. Even the substitution of Brahmin
against the caste is also a misnomer.
We have for everything a yes or no or a duality positive and negative
which is also an analysis. There is the existence is one ; no is another;
if there is no existence and everything is man made against nature then the
divisions by whatever name is called has no value at all since the
freethinking or the freewill does exist .Every species is an individual
with the freewill so that by caste there is nothing evidenced at all.
Because there is not even the parent or relations nor friends at all.
On the contrary, there is the existence,where is the question of
existence showing the differences? Can a mother distinguish the children?.
Hence the intended JATI TRANSLATED ERRONEOUSLY AS CASTE, is playful
triggering the divide and rule from then till date. Jati is the word first
used only in Manu smrithi, a late addition to the Grammar. Verse 4.148
वेदाभ्यासेन सततं शौचेन तपसैव च । अद्रोहेण च भूतानां जातिं स्मरति पौर्विकीम्
॥ १४८ ॥
*vedābhyāsena satataṃ śaucena tapasaiva ca* | *adroheṇa ca bhūtānāṃ jātiṃ
smarati paurvikīm* || 148 || By the constant recitation of the Veda, by
purification, by austerity, and by doing no harm to living beings, he
remembers his previous birth. —(148). That shows that there were no
classifications as seen today right from the vedas to puranas even for a
long time in history. Even here it does not use the word Jati as we know it
today. veda abyasane, satatam souchena, tapasaiva cha, adrohena,
--boothaanam- jati- smarati (smrithi) pourveekam. By study of the vedas,
purity meditation antidroga, on the earth or among the species ancient,
drove the jati as per smrithi. So jaati is not given the meaning the
British gave
Jati is rooted from JANU the birth , to be born and carry 45 meanings
including the jaati, jati, jatee, etc a flower, a place etc etc . Jati is a
tribe. As Maha Perava said that by duty there are 4 varnas, and Iyer ,
iyengar , ashta sastram, vadama, mudaliyar, chettiat etc tribes as Jatis.
Hence it is neither brahmin nor a philosophy, but living tribes as Indians,
americans etc.
Rig vedam 10 90 is Purusha suktham where verse 12 speaks of four
varnas. In no other verses of the Rig vedam on the whole, the words vaisya
and sudra does NOT occur at all.
udbhinnaṃ rājñaḥ // iti catvāro vai puruṣā brāhmaṇo rājanyo vaiśyaḥ
śūdras teṣām evainam udbhedayati tataḥ pañcākṣān prayachann āha diśo
abhyabhūd ayam itīmā evāsmai pañca diśo 'nnādyāya prayachati kṣetraṃ dadāti
tena kṣetre dhṛto bhavati varaṃ vṛṇīte so 'smai kāmaḥ samṛdhyate yatkāmo
bhavati maṅgalyanāmno hvayati yat pūrvaṃ vyāhārṣaṃ tan nen mogham asad ity
asā amuṣya putro 'muṣyāsau putra iti nāmanī vyatiṣajati svargasya lokasya
samaṣṭyai //MS_4,4.6//MAITRAYANI SAMHITA APPENDED TO YV BUT THE OLDEST
SAMHITA EXPLAINING THE Rig Vedam. Here also it is said not as division but
sprang out of Purusha.
Hence caste as philosophy researchable arose well within 500 years
not from Brahmins but from the British Brahmins. KR IRS 23221
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 08:55, 'yeddanapudim' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Correction.Muddled the sentence.I mean that the word Brahmin must be used
> instead of the word caste,as every caste is a Brahmin caste.
> YM
>
> On Tuesday, 23 February, 2021, 07:34:19 am IST, gopala krishnan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Sir
> A good article deviating from your more postings on nature .
> Gopala Krishnan
>
> On Tuesday, 23 February, 2021, 07:31:21 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
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> *Mar*Caste Philosophies
>
>
>
> Once our country mainly was based on Barter, based on tradition, custom
> and a caste philosophy for each occupation. Each caste has and
> unfortunately today had a basic Brahmin path. Every caste even today has
> Caste based Brahmins particular to each caste, Caste Temples and the
> particular caste philosophy with the particularized Brahmin path. In fact
> instead of the word Brahmin instead of the word caste is precisely correct.
> Every caste has a separate caste philosophy based on the profession of each
> caste.
>
> For eg today’s designated barbers were the majestic Nai Brahmins,
> dedicated to Divine Music, for creating the Divinely mind before entering
> the Temple. The Mangali paved the path for Mangalam. In Nadaswaram, they
> specialized in the sublime tunes needed for the Divine mind.
>
> The Viswa Brahmin specialized in creating the aura of God in the
> Jewellery. He concentrated on creating the Divine mind by wearing the
> ornaments.
>
> Each caste fortified the basic barter economy, wherein each caste gave its
> contribution to the society, and received from the society the needs.
>
> No caste was a cost, to be reduced or eliminated.
>
> Every caste and its cost as contribution were adored. There were no
> optimum firms, mercilessly depriving persons of livelihoods to reach the
> optimum costs. The economy was cashless, based on the Theism, traditions,
> customs and prayers and the emotional sense of belonging. Each Brahmin
> (caste), related emotionally to nature, and caste or Brahmin entered one’s
> breathing, smelling, relating creating the basic sense of belonging.
>
> The occupation of the caste (Brahmin), created the emotional bond to
> nature. The Temple particular to each caste laid the path to the ultimate
> cosmos.
>
> In such a society can there be any unemployment and lack of meaning and
> purpose in life?
>
> Let us compare that Theism based Hindu economies to today’s, economic
> explanation stammering where he economists tie themselves in complex knots.
>
> Cost reduction is supposed to be efficiency. It means that a firm must get
> more and more cheaply from the society or nature, cheapening nature itself.
> Secondly your cost is my income. When cost is reduced, I get eliminated
> from the economy. I get eliminated from the markets, reducing the demand
> for many goods. If all firms reach the optimum costs, then all markets will
> be lost and it will be the ultimate optimum hell.
>
> Today, we bludgeon the students and also the society, with the accounting
> system, that records only the expenses and incomes of the trader. There is
> no recording of the environmental costs, costs to the society, costs to the
> ecology and the ultimate emotional or morale costs or ...morale
> contributions. The ultimate foolish system of accounting has become the
> glorified and monopolized system of accounting.
>
> The Caste based Brahmin economies were almost te extensions of nature’s
> ecology. Now we have the economists, who tie themselves in knots and who
> cover their contradiction in meaningless econometrics, and posing equality
> to Newtonian Physics which itself is cut and adjusted by the Relativity
> Physics and Quantum Physics.
>
> YM
>
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