Pranam Instead of old say repeated, whether are we better, should have been noticed: "Gallileo to realize that the sun was the center of our solar system." KR HELIO CENTRIC OF SUN IN VEDAS
In astronomy <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/a/Astronomy.htm>, *heliocentrism* is the belief that the Sun <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/s/Sun.htm> is at the centre of the Universe <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/u/Universe.htm> and/or the Solar System <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/s/Solar_System.htm>. The word is derived from the Greek (* Helios* = "Sun" and *kentron* = "Centre"). Historically, heliocentrism is opposed to geocentrism and currently to modern geocentrism, which places the earth at the centre. (The distinction between the Solar System and the Universe was not clear until modern times, but extremely important relative to the controversy over cosmology and religion <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/r/Religion.htm>.) In the 16th <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/1/16th_century.htm> and 17th <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/1/17th_century.htm> centuries, when the theory was revived and defended by Copernicus <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/n/Nicolaus_Copernicus.htm> , Galileo <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/g/Galileo_Galilei.htm>, and Kepler <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/j/Johannes_Kepler.htm>, it became the centre of a major dispute. *Ancient India* The earliest traces of a counter-intuitive idea that it is the *Earth that is actually moving and the Sun that is at the centre of the solar system* (hence the concept of heliocentrism) is found in several Vedic Sanskrit texts written in ancient India. Yajnavalkya (c. 9th– 8th century BC) recognized that the Earth is spherical and believed that the Sun was "*the centre of the spheres*" as described in the *Vedas* at the time. In his astronomical text *Shatapatha Brahmana* (8.7.3.10) he states: "*The sun strings these worlds - the earth, the planets, the atmosphere - to himself on a thread.*" He recognized that the Sun was much larger than the Earth, which would have influenced this early heliocentric concept. He also accurately measured the relative distances of the Sun and the Moon from the Earth as 108 times the diameters of these heavenly bodies, close to the modern measurements of 107.6 for the Sun and 110.6 for the Moon. He also described a solar calendar in the Shatapatha Brahmana. The Vedic Sanskrit text *Aitareya Brahmana* (2.7) (c. 9th–8th century BC) also states: "*The Sun never sets nor rises that’s right. When people think the sun is setting, it is not so; they are mistaken.*" This indicates that the Sun is stationary (hence the Earth is moving around it), which is elaborated in a later commentary *Vishnu Purana* (2.8) (c. 1st century <https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/1/1st_century.htm>), which states: "*The sun is stationed for all time, in the middle of the day. [...] Of the sun, which is always in one and the same place, there is neither setting nor rising.*" (See Haug, Martin and Basu (1974), Joseph (2000), Kak (2000) in Selin (2000), Teresi (2002) and Blavatsky (1877) for further information.) Q2 A2 Sir, Tornado research is complete and there is no doubt about fish Ice and home products rains. Q3 A3 Krishna saved Durvasa and Draupadi which is direct; also it explains that one piece of food eaten by the Lord satiated all the world , proving that HE is the manifest of the duality we see, which I was explaining elsewhere. Q4 A4 In Veda a grihasthashram is the sustenance whose protection GOD is symbolised as Mahavishnu and Lakshmi. Hence wife was named as Griha Lakshmi; however in modern days sinc3 she is bringing wealth as dowry she is Lakshmi. Q6 A^ Not only duryodhana but all Ravana, sisupala Hiranyaksha etc are said to have gone to swarga only; Main principle is their previous karmas; second is following the swadharma if were to defy GOD; and the third is what was one's recital yoga; all were uttering GOD's name even in their dreams; neither Arjuna nor Narada could do it (narada and carrying oil) . KR IRS 4321 On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 06:11, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < [email protected]> wrote: > *CULTURAL QA 03-2021-02* > > *Being a compilation there may be errors* > > *Q1 What science objects have the most interesting backstories?* > > A1 Sean Kernan February 24-2021 > > It was the 16th century, lots of innovation was happening around eyeglass > design. To think, so many people in this world spent their lives blind, not > having any options to improve their vision. > > A German glassmaker named Lipperhey was testing out an apparatus that > utilized a glass being viewed through a long pipe, with limited light being > let in. > > He put a lid over one in with a pinhole in it, and toyed with the > lighting, he began and the vision on the other end of the pipe began to > improve significantly. > > And thus, the first version of the telescope was born. > > For the record, it was a god-awful telescope, don’t expect to see much > through it. But this was the seed from which telescopes would expand and > become better. > > They were popular in Europe at the time. And sold with the public. > > But eventually, these telescopes passed through several important hands, > being improved upon with each iteration. It was when Gallileo picked one up > from a shot in Paris (they sold them everywhere), that he began doing his > own experiments and was able to improve it multiples of what it had been. > > But more importantly, the telescope is what enabled Gallileo to realize > that the sun was the center of our solar system. (Source: The Nine Planets. > Bill Arnet) > > Today, we have things like: > > The Hubble telescope, which would have made Galileo wet his pants. > > Also, for inquiring minds, the word “telescope” originates from Latin. > > Tele = distance > > Scope = from scopium which means to examine. hare from Space you might > like > > *Q2 What are some interesting phenomena on Earth which science is > yet to explain?* > > A2 February 21-2021 Shared by Aritra Baran Chakraborty Dawn Amber > Updated July 18, 2019 > > A small town in Honduras, claims to have ‘fish rain’. > > Once or twice a year in the town of Yoro, Honduras, villagers celebrate a > holiday by the name of ‘Lluvia de Peces’ or ‘Rain of Fish’.Reported to > happen the months of May or June, the Rain of Fish occurs when a very heavy > storm passes through the city. > > What remains? Tons of fish. > > Not even dead ones, mind you, tons of alive fish, flipping and flopping > around on the pavement, apparently left by the storm. > > This is one of the few claims of “raining animals” that scientists have > actually witnessed happen in real life. > > Of course, there are some theories—that have yet to be proven—about why > this occurs. > > The first theory is that, to put it simply, the fish aren’t actually > falling from the sky. > > Large rainstorms like these could potentially flood nearby lakes, ponds, > and rivers, forcing the fish out of their streams and onto streets. > > Flash floods could quickly move fish from rivers and into streets, and > then quickly dry up, leaving people to believe that the fish fell from the > sky onto the pavement. > > However, the second theory entertains the idea of fish falling from the > sky. > > Another naturally occurring phenomenon, waterspouts, could be the cause > of these ‘animal rains’. > > Waterspouts are like little tornadoes that form over bodies of water. The > waterspouts don’t actually suck water up, but can lift small > animals—including fish—out of their habitat and into the air. > > This means the fish could be sucked up into the air and taken far away > from their ponds, before being deposited onto the ground elsewhere. > > The last theory could be that the fish come from underground rivers, and > are washed out by the rain. > > This is also supported by the fact that a research team found the fish > were actually blind. > > Whatever the case may be, finding fish on the roads just after a heavy > storm would be a weird experience for anyone. > > I don’t blame the villagers for thinking that it rains fish every > year.(Source: Lluvia de Peces (Rain of Fish) > > *Q3 Was Draupadi saved by Rishi Durvasa?* > > A3 Krishna Dutta February 19-2021Devotee of Bhagwan Shri Krishna. > > Yes, *but not according to Mahabharata, according to Shiva Purana*. > Draupadi got this help because she helped Rishi Durvasa once. In the > Chapter 19 of Satarudra Samhita, Shiva Purana, this incident is briefly > described. > > Once Rishi Durvasa was bathing in Ganga when he became naked for an > unknown reason. He became ashamed. Draupadi, who was also bathing there, > cut a piece of his cloth and gave it to Rishi Durvasa. Rishi Durvasa > covered his private parts with it and gave Drauapdi the boon of increasing > folds of cloth which may have saved her from the dishonour at Dyuta Sabha. > > 63. O sage, once the excellent sage Durvāsas was taking bath in the > celestial river Ganga when he became naked. He became a curious object of > sight and was ashamed. > > 64. Draupadi who was taking bath there provided him with the cut-piece of > her garment and thus saved him from dishonour. > > 65. As the piece of cloth reached him being carried by the current, the > sage covered his private parts with it. He was therefore pleased with her. > > 66. He granted her the boon of ever increasing folds of cloth. Later, > Draupadī made the Pandavas happy due to that boon. > > Ref : Shiva Purana, Satarudra Samhita, Chapter 19 - The Narrative of > Durvasas. > > *Q4 Why are daughters considered Lakshmi?* > > A4 Shraddha Singh 1-3-2021 > > In India daughters are considered Laksmi because , they are said to bring > wealth and prosperity in their house . > > A daughter can be Soft sweet and kind like lakshmi > > A daughter can also be strong and brave like Lakshmi.She can be loyal and > courageous like sita.She can give infinite love like radha.She can be > beautiful and humble like Rukmini.A daughter can do anything > > *Q5 What facts about Switzerland do foreigners not believe until > they come to Switzerland?* > > A5 Benzion Inditsky Updated November 12-2020 CEO at Visus > Photonics (1995–present) > > My first wife was from Zurich where I lived in the 1980s. > > When we decided to marry, my local friend warned me that in case of > divorce I’ll have to pay a huge alimony to my wife covering her full living > costs etc to three years irrespective of having no children. Turned out > Swiss used an original 14th century law obliging a man to take full > responsibility for his (former) wife. We registered in a Standesamt in > GermanyVery noble but no more active. > > Once I was jogging in a remote Alpine area and came around a huge isolated > cherry tree with giant cherries. I had to climb up two meters to pick them. > The tree was about a mile from the nearest village down the slope. > > Within 10 minutes I noticed a man running and shouting with a large bat. > > Seemed like a friendly peasant happy to meet a rare visitor. > > I was dead wrong. He owned this tree and threatened to arrest me for > stealing.10 SFs settled it. > > Even if you are close to Montblanc, never indulge in cherry picking > > *Q6 Why was Duryodhan sent to heaven despite being Adharmi?* > > A6 Bhanu Kiran 2-3-2021 Mahabharata (Hindu epic) · Exploring > ancient texts of Sanatana Dharma > > Once King Kuru was cultivating in the field of Kurukshetra. Indra saw it > and came to Kurukshetra to enquire Kuru the reason tilling the field. > Kuru expressed a desire that men who die there should reach heaven and > their sins should be washed off. Indra laughed at Kuru and went back to > heaven without giving the boon Kuru desired. This happened repeatedly and > Indra asked the gods on what Kuru is up to. *The gods asked Indra to > grant the boon Kuru wanted. Indra again came to Kuruksheta and granted a > boon to Kuru saying men who fast there and give up their bodies or those > who are killed fighting a battle in that land will reach heaven*. This is > the reason why the warriors who died in Kurukshetra battle reached heaven. > > I am providing two quotes from Shalya Parva which confirms this fact. > > ‘Rama asked, “Why did the great-souled Kuru cultivate this field? O stores > of austerities! I wish to hear this. Tell me.” ‘The rishis replied, “O > Rama! In earlier times, Kuru was always engaged in tilling this. On seeing > this, Shakra came from heaven and asked him the reason. ‘O king! Why are > you making this supreme effort? O rajarshi! What is the reason for you to > till this field?’ Kuru said, ‘O Shatakratu! Men who die in this field will > go to the worlds reserved for those with meritorious deeds. They will be > cleansed of their sins.’ Laughing at this, the lord Shakra returned to > heaven. The rajarshi was not distressed and continued to plough the earth. > Shatakratu repeatedly came to him and repeatedly received the same reply. > Disgusted, he repeatedly went away. The king continued to till the earth > with great perseverance. Shakra told the other gods what the rajarshi was > up to. On hearing this, the gods spoke these words to the one with one > thousand eyes. ‘O Shakra! If you can, grant the rajarshi a boon and stop > him. If men can die here and go to heaven, without dutifully giving us a > share in the sacrifices, we will have no existence left.’ Shakra came to > the rajarshi and told him, ‘Do not make any more efforts. Listen to my > words. O king! Men who fast here and give up their bodies, with all their > senses intact, or those who are killed in battle, will certainly go to > heaven. O Indra among kings! O immensely intelligent one! They will enjoy > heaven.’ King Kuru agreed to the words that Shakra had spoken. Having taken > his leave and delighted in his mind, the slayer of Bala swiftly returned to > heaven. > > Second mention in the same chapter. > > The region between Tarantuka and Arantuka, between Rama’s lakes and > Machakruka, is Kurukshetra Samantapanchaka. It is known as Prajapati’s > northern altar. It is sacred, extremely auspicious and is revered by the > residents of heaven. It possesses all the qualities of heaven. Therefore, > all the lords of the earth who are slain here obtain the ends earmarked for > great-souled ones. > > Source: Mahabharata translated by Bibek Debroy Shalya Parva Chapter > 1271(52) > > *Q7 Why did Lord Shankar give his Sudarshan Chakra to Sri Vishnu?* > > A7 Tarun Yadav February 14-2021Hindu Gods and Goddesses · > Interested in Sanatan Literature > > Once upon a time, Daityas became very powerful. They harassed the world. > Being tormented by the Daityas, the gods came to Lord Vishnu and seeked his > refuge. > > Lord Vishnu heard their pleas and *said that he will carry their task by > propitiating Lord Shiva. For the benefit of entire world, Lord Vishnu > worshipped Lord Shiva.* > > He went to Kailasha and performed penance. He performed his worship by > singing hymns and chanting mantras related to Lord Shiva. He recited > one-thousand names of Lord Shiva (Shiva sahasranama). He offered > one-thousand lotus flowers to Lord Shiva after chanting each name. > > To test his devotee, Lord Shiva took away one of the flowers. *Lord > Vishnu then offered his lotus eye to Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva then appeared > in front of Lord Vishnu and offered him a boon.* > > *Lord Vishnu asked for a powerful weapon to slay Daityas. Lord Shiva then > gave him the Sudarshana Chakra using which Lord Vishnu slayed the Daityas > and restored peace on Earth*. > > The Shiva Puranaby J. L. Shastri | 1970 | 616,585 words-Hinduism Purana > > *This page relates “acquisition of sudarshana by vishnu” as found in the > Shiva-purana, which, in Hinduism, represents one of the eighteen* > Mahapuranas. This work eulogizes Lord Shiva as the supreme deity, besides > topics such as cosmology and philosophy. It is written in Sanskrit and > claims to be a redaction of an original text consisting of 100,000 metrical > verses. > > Chapter 34 - Acquisition of Sudarśana by Viṣṇu > > Vyāsa said:— > > 1. O great sages, on hearing the words of Sūta the sages praised him and > spoke desiring the welfare of the worlds. > > The sages said:—2. O Sūta, you know everything. Hence we ask you. O holy > lord, please narrate the greatness of the phallic image Harīśvara. > > 3. O dear, this was heard by us formerly that by propitiating Harīśvara, Vi > ṣṇu acquired his discus Sudarśana. Please narrate that story particularly. > > Sūta said:— > > 4. O great sages, may the auspicious story of Harīśvara be heard, how > Sudarśana was acquired by Viṣṇu formerly from Śiva. > > 5. On a certain occasion the Daityas became very powerful. They harassed > the worlds and violated sacred rites. > > 6. Tormented by the Daityas of great strength and exploit, the gods > narrated their misery to Viṣṇu, their saviour. > > The gods said:— > > 7. O lord, be merciful. We are very much afflicted by the Daityas. Where > shall we go? What shall we do? We have resorted to you, for you are worthy > of seeking refuge by us. > > Sūta said:— > > 8. On hearing these words of the gods distressed in mind, Viṣṇu > remembered the lotus-like feet of Śiva and said. > > Viṣṇu said:— > > 9. O gods, I shall carry out your task after propitiating Śiva. These > powerful enemies shall be conquered with great effort. > > Sūta said:— > > 10. Thus consoled by lord Viṣṇu, the gods thought that the Daityas would > be surely killed. They then went to their respective abodes. > > 11. For the victory of the gods, Viṣṇu worshipped śiva, the lord of all > the gods, the imperishable and the cosmic witness of all. > > 12. He went to Kailāsa and dug a pit there wherein he kindled fire and > performed penance. > > 13. He worshipped Śiva joyously with various mantras and hymns prescribed > for the worship of earthen image. > > 14. O great sages, he worshipped with the lotus-flowers growing in the > Mānasa lake. He sat firmly in the Yogic posture and did not move at all. > > 15. Thinking decisively—“By all means I shall stay here till the lord is > pleased” Viṣṇu worshipped Śiva. > > 16. O brahmins, when Śiva was not pleased with Viṣṇu, the latter began to > think anxiously. > > 17. After thinking thus he rendered him various services. Still, lord > Śiva, indulging in divine sports was not satisfied. > > 18. Surprised much at this, Viṣṇu, endowed with great devotion, eulogised > lord Śiva by reciting his thousand names with pleasure. > > 19. Repeating every name, he worshipped Śiva, favourably disposed towards > those who seek refuge in him? with a lotus flower. > > 20. In order to test the piety of Viṣṇu, one of the thousand > lotus-flowers was taken away by Śiva. > > 21. That wonderful Māyā of Śiva was not noticed by Viṣṇu. But when he > came to know of the shortage he started to search. > > 22. In order to find it out he roamed over the world, steadily maintaining > his sacred rite. But not finding the same, the pious Viṣṇu offered one of > his eyes (instead of the lotus). > > 23. On seeing it Śiva who destroys all miseries was delighted and appeared > before him. He spoke these words to Viṣṇu. > > Śiva said:— > > 24. O Viṣṇu, I am delighted with you. Mention the boon you wish to have. > I shall grant you what you desire. There is nothing which cannot be given > to you. > > Sūta said:— > > 25. On hearing the words of Śiva, Viṣṇu was pleased in his mind. > Extremely delighted he spoke to Śiva with palms joined in reverence. > > Viṣṇu said:— > > 26. What is there to be mentioned to you? You are the immanent soul. > Still, O Lord, I mention the same with due deference to your behest. > > 27. O Sadāśiva, the entire universe is afflicted by the Daityas. We have > no pleasure at all. Our weapons are in effectual in killing the Daityas. > > 28. What shall I do? Where shall I go? I have no greater saviour than you. > O lord, I seek refuge in you. > > Sūta said:— > > 29. After saying this he stood in affliction and bowed to Śiva, the > supreme soul. > > 30. On hearing these words of Viṣṇu, Śiva, the lord of gods, gave him his > discus Sudarśana shining with the mass of splendour. > > 31. On receiving it Viṣṇu slew the powerful demons immediately with the > discus without any strain. > > 32. Thereupon the universe derived normalcy, the gods became happy. After > receiving the Sudarśana missile Viṣṇu was greatly delighted. > > The sages said:— > > 33. What is that hymn of Śiva that consists of his thousand names? What is > that hymn whereby Śíva was so much delighted that he gave Viṣṇu the > discus. > > 34. Please expound the glory of this hymn to us and narrate the dialogue > between Śiva and Viṣṇu. The merciful nature of Śiva towards Viṣṇu may > also be narrated to us. > > Vyāsa said:— > > 35. On hearing the words of the pious sages, Sūta spoke after remembering > the lotus-like feet of Śiva. > > All the above QA are based on Quora digest to me on 03-03 - 2021. Quora > answers need not be 100% correct answers > > *Compiled and posted by R. Gopala krishnan on 04-3-2021* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/1855345585.274238.1614818492391%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/1855345585.274238.1614818492391%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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