Q1 Who divided this class?. What is the yardstick? Money? or something else?. Character?. Education?. Which one?. Suffering is common and every one suffers; and there are sufferers who suffer and suffer, because-THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SUFFER TODAY. The author originally is also middle class because his reach is looking down upon them and the aunties, thinking that he is above them. IT IS NOTHING BUT THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY. AVVAYAR SAID THERE ARE ONLY 2 CLASSES ON THIS EARTH; :Ittar periyor Idaadhaar iznikulathor-patangilullapadi; as specified in the sastras, one who gave, gifts, charitise, in the welfare of the society is elders; those who are not, descendants like sudras only. So there is no middle and all suffer. Q2 Again the division; south and North on flocking. North Indians have been residing in the south since the 1950s for business, low property value and space expansiveness and good air starting from Marwaris till date the biharis, Rajasthanis, Nepalis in Hotel Industry. Migration from north was started only by the Brahmins and no one opposed the flocking then. Keralites flocked Bombay then, Dubai, Sinala Tamils France Canada etc, Bangla, Kashmir pandits interior in India -migration is in the nomadic life of humans throughout the earth. Multiple reasons are there. When keralites went to Mumbai were they flocked?. So too it is not the vice versa. Why the cosmopolitan cities are breathing in CO2 is because of the villagers flocking the city. So flocking does not choke; but the flashing the dirty environment in a cluster that is harbouring the minds of the residents. What one does not do in the USA, UK, France, and Germany and if one does, flanked by the law, does not bother here and the law is corrupt. Q3 Easwara. There was no shower? Natural shaower is falls water and abhishekams were performed to the Kings and deities since time immemorial thro slotted pores plates which is a shower. And bathing in the pool, Falls and showers are recited in the vedic literature. Q4 Why forget the word Kauravas?; kaurava is not dridarashtran; None of the children of Dhritarashtra or Pandu ,were biologically Kurus .The last of the kauravas were Bhisma , Chithrangadha, and Vichitraveerya. Beshma had sworn to brahmacharya, Chitrangada died childless so did Vichithraveerya, thus ending the biological Kuru clan. Vedic dharma sanctions a childless couple (if the male is incapable of having children) to beget a child through a sibling of the male or a Rishi/sanyasi , with the consent of the husband. This applies to a widow too. She has the option to remarry,if she wishes not to, she can get a child in the same method by her choice. AND the society accepts them as the legal children of her husband. In the story,after the demise of her sons Sathyavathi asks Beshma to marry; he refuses, sticking to his oath of staying unmarried,and brahmacharya. It is then she approaches her first born Krishna Dwaipaya (vedavyasa) So though Dhritarashtra and Pandu were fathered by Vedhavyasa (their father's,half brother, son of satyavati and sage Parasara ) are considered legal. Therefore known as KURUS Vedic Dharma does not permit a BLIND man to be a king. So when Pandu relinquished the throne Dritharastra was nominated the ACTING KING ,in place of his brother Pandu. IF Pandu did not get children, then alone his children were entitled to the throne, but it so happened ,Pandu did get children by the means sanctioned by the vedic dharma, therefore his children were the legal heir to the throne of Hastinapuram. The hundred sons of Dritharasta were called Kauravas because they were known as such by the people of Hasthinapura.The children of Pandu when they came to Hasthinapuram (after the death of their father) people for the sake of identification among the hundred and five KAURAVAS called them Pandavas which stuck on to the FIVE brothers for eternity. All the 105 +daughter+karnan are all kuru dynasties only, hence Kauravaas. But the bitterness distinguished the 5 as the children of Pandu who were prevented from claiming the throne legally though entitled to and hence the end war. Q5 For all specie who has to feed thro milk nature had provided them a way out/ Q6 There were no tests for thy fathers and grand fathers; yet they were stronger both in body and the mind; if one does he has surplus; if does not one shall care as tirumular said as temple is protected. If one can walk and do their own things well one is fit. Q7 The adjustments, compromises are cinematic words. Discipline and conduct is natural per-se every one. If everyone does their job refined well no such adjustment and compromise would arise. Stop Living in comparison. KR IRS 11621
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 05:47, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > *CULTURAL QA 06-2021-11* > > *Being a compilation there may be errors* > > Q1 Why does the middle class always has to suffer in India? > > A1 Ramadevi Gidugu Former Self Employed, Full Time Mother. > > They don't know the tricks about other flourishing middle class people in > other countries. That's why they suffer. > > They are middle class. Born to suffer. > > Middle class people believe rich are born rich and they became rich by > looting poor. > > Right? You are wrong. > > No one has to suffer in India or anywhere just because they are from > middle class. > > If you want to depend on external elements and support for your progress, > you have to suffer. you may be from any class. Life won't spare you. > > Just use the brains and oppertunities. Never depend on only educational > degrees. Of course, they are useful and needed but at the same time should > not mould you to think in a certain way. If you let that happen, you would > suffer. > > A small example. > > My neighborhood family had a garden like us. They too had some plantain > trees. They went to their native place and stuck there because of corona. > They came back last month. Their plantain tree had a nice big banana bunch > and almost half grown. > > I watered it along with mine since it got fruits and they were not there. > In fact I climbed on a stool and with a long pipe watered it. > > They came from their place last month. The next day cut the tree. I was > shocked. Said with anger ' what a stupid thing you did! Why you cut it? > It's not ready. Just one month if you could wait, you would have got nice > babana fruits organically grown. They are expensive in market.’ > > Do you know what answer I got? They both are well educated techies. > Staying for rent. Dream about buying this kind of house. They could stay > here just because their company paying rent. > > *That young lady told me ‘Banana plant should not flower facing south!!! > It's inauspicious.* So I only told security fellow' to cut it. > > I was speechless. When you plant a banana tree at North edge of your > compound wall leaving no place to grow, won't it flower facing south? It's > natural. Moreover their previous tenants planted those trees. Sun is > falling on that plant from that southeast corner only. > > *She said ‘no aunty! Any direction is ok but not south.* You should have > known before watering it. You are my mom's age. Don't you know? My mom and > Mil both told this'. > > I murmured ‘stupid junk'! in my mind and left. > > I called the security. Asked him what he did with it. > > He said Amma, that ma'am gave me 100 rupees and asked me to cut it. What I > can do with this? Fruits Not ready also! I don't have family and you know > we all are staying alone. What I would do with these? I would throw it away. > > I asked him to wait. My milk vendor is a Malayali. He may be knowing > something to do with it. Such a big healthy bunch. Easily fetch 1000 rupees > in market. Three months I watered and indirectly grew it. I didn't get > heart to throw it like that. > > He runs a small eatery joint with bajji, type snacks etc in the evening > near our colony gate. I phoned him. > > He came and told he would not take it for free. Gave three hundred > rupees to the security fellow' and took the whole bunch away. > > Evening he sent few banana bajjis and some other items made with not ripen > bananas. > > Evening I saw my neighborhood lady's husband bringing fresh bananas from > outside. > > I just sighed. Brainless couple! > > God gave them freely. They did not know the value. Just carried away by > some blind ideology. > > With a little effort security got 300 hundred rupees. > > Without any effort and for giving just an idea, I got free snacks. > > That eatery fellow' got free material worth much more than what he paid > for his business. > > The couple who is actually entitled lost what actually rightfully theirs > and have to spend money again to buy them from market. > > *Now do you understand why middle class has to suffer?* > > The above is one example and reason out of many. > > Some other reasons are, > > 1. Fail to recognise the potential in anything. > > 2. Stuck in unknown fears. They didn't get the idea, failed to think, > after all it's a plant fruit. Won't kill them! Atleast would have tried > once. But no!! No guts to experiment and walk in a new path. New grass > won't grow on a path where everyone walks. This much they don't know? > > 3. Blindly moulded to think in a certain way. Like a partially blind > folded horse tied to a cart. It can see only straight. > > 4. Got used to work for others. Never think why can't they create any > opportunity. > > 5. Fear. Fear. Fear. This is the route cause of suffering. Fear and too > miser to think or dream big. Some are opposite. Think they deserve more > than what they can afford. They too suffer because of false prestige. It's > dangerous also. Only hard work won't bring gains. It should be a smart work > also. > > *Whoever come out of that shackles are creating wonders and remaining > others are suffering.* > > Q2 Do South Indians not get mad when North Indians are flocking > to the South for better opportunities, food, and safety? > > A2 Bhuvana Rameshwar Born and bred a S. Indian 10h ago > > No. > > *India is a vast country common for all Indians. We can work, buy land, > build and live in any part of India.* > > People from Northern India, N. E, get transferred to South on jobs, or for > business, production, marketing and in search of jobs as seen in our > migrants from various states. *Many places in the south like Bangalore, > Tirupur, Hyderabad, Trivandrum and Chennai are very dependent on migrant > labour for various jobs in textiles*, real estate, hospitality, health > care and other industries. They form the backbone of our development and > good GDP. > > There are just a few things we do not like about them… > > Purposely talking to us only in Hindi. Not trying to speak or learning > southern languages or the common language English. > > Introducing live in, party and pub culture to South. > > Their dressing sense especially girls and women is also too modern by > average South Indian standards. Generally South is still conservative and > orthodox be it in school, home, office or college. > > Many youngsters have loud parties with TV blaring right upto 3 am in the > nighs even when living in apartments or near other houses. This culture of > disturbing others in name of party is very irritating. Some scream too > after a few pegs of hard drinks. Usually it is mixed gender parties which > is not very common in the south. Hence they get pulled up by society heads. > > Spitting in every available corner with red stained betel leaves or > tobacco gutkas irritates us. They dirty our govt buildings, apartments and > shopping malls and public parks > > We are now a little sceptical /scared of migrants as many rob, murder > people living in single houses, jewellery shops, ATM. Good examples are the > groups which came as labourers with women members but turned out to be > organised robbers and murderers. > > Cost of living is high in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai and other cities > , rents are exhorbitant and *building boom is a result of vast migration > of North Indians to the southern India.* > > Otherwise north, east or west Indians, including Ladakh, Kashmir are all > welcome. We are all Indians. > > Q3 How did they shower in medieval times? > > *A3 Matt RiggsbyMA Archaeological Studies, Boston* University Tue > > They did not. Showers require a reliable supply of running water coming > from overhead, which in turn requires some moderately extensive and > sophisticated plumbing. None of that was at all common in the Middle Ages. > Or, indeed, anywhere until well into the modern era. > > *And that’s why historically nobody showered. People bathed. How they did > that depended on* circumstances. Some societies had public bath houses > equipped with large, luxurious tubs of hot water, big enough to share with > friends. However, this kind of bathing was associated with various kinds of > immorality in Christian Europe, so people would bathe in very small tubs > (typically doing double-duty as some other container) or would just > sponge-bathe, cleaning themselves strategically with water and cloths. > > Q4 Was Mahabharat fought for land or the honour of a woman > (Draupadi)? > > A4 Anything From Anywhere Answered by Sipra Sibani Parida June 5 > > *Neither it was fought for land nor the honour of a woman(Draupadi)*. > > Mahabharat was fought to understand people what is a person’s real DHARMA, > what is the position of every women in the world, what can happen when you > bet on human. > > *Once Krishna said in Mahabharata that ,” karuna (kindness ) is the root > of the tree , dharma is the trunk and bachan (words) is the branche**s.*” > It means if one branch will broke then there will be no effect on trunk it > clearly means that if anyone will break his word for kindness then it's not > wrong. And in short in kaurava duty sabha no one break there bachan and > dharma which ravage the karuna of a stree . > > And to teach the world the real meaning of Dharma and bachana and to teach > the human being to respect every women this was fought. > > And also this is not any kind of revange in Krishna's word , this was not > for a single woman (Samragi Draupadi) , this was for the whole nari jati . > > Q4 Why does Purana tell us "Pandu Putra" to all Pandavas? There > is no one from Pandu and Kunti, so how can they claim in Indraprastha? > > A4 Kavana NLives in Bangalore, Karnataka. Sun > > Pandavas are very well Pandu's sons only by all means. > > Firstly, Pandavas were born through Niyoga. > > *In Niyoga, the sons belongs to the son of Mother's husband . SO THE > PANDAVAS BELONGED TO KUNTI'S HUSBAND THAT IS MAHARAJA PANDU.* > > The biological father had no claim on son.So, Normal birth and Niyoga has > a very big difference.So Pandavas had all claim on Hastinapura. > > *If Pandavas had no claim, then Dritarashtra also had no claim. But it is > not true, both have claim on* *Kingdom.* > > Q5 If you don't milk a cow every day, does it harm them? > > A5 Donna Fernstrom Lives in Virginia Sun > > *Yes. It would be very painful for the cow and could lead to harm if you > were to skip a day*. > > Even if you’re milk-sharing with a calf, the fact that you have been > removing additional milk means *the cow will produce more. If it’s not > removed, it will build up in the udder and cause pain.* > > Q6 What are some tests one should do once a year after the age of > 60 years for the maintenance of good health? > > A6 Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam Lawyer10h ago > > *My Comprehensive Test Package includes* > > Clinical Tests > > CBC - WBC Count, Neutrophil Count, Lymphocyte Count, Hemoglobin, Packed > Cell Volume (PCV), Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) and Total Platelet Count > > Cardiac Related Lipid Profile - Total Cholesterol, Total Triglycerides, > LDL, HDL, LDL:HDL Ratio, C - Reactive Protein > > Kidney Function Test - GFR, Creatinine, Urea/Blood Urea Nitrogen, Total > Protein, Albumin, Globulin, A/G Ratio > > Liver Function Test - Bilurubin, GGT, SGOT, ALT > > Others - D - Dimer > > Metabolic - Fasting Blood Sugar, HBA1C > > Other Tests > > Cardiac - ECG > > The Tests are done once a year from 50 - 70 years of age and twice a year > after the age of 70. > > Other Tests to be done once at the age of 50 - 55 Years of age > > Angiogram, ECHO, Endoscopy, Colonoscopy > > Other Tests for Women:- > > PAP Smear and HPV Tests - Once every 3 - 5 Years > > Mammogram - Once every 3 - 5 years > > There are specialized tests for Heart Patients etc like Treadmill Tests > but they are not in the General Category > > Q7 How satisfied with life are middle-class Indians? > > A7 Ratnamala Kamath M'com from Karnatak University, Dharwad > (Graduated 1988)Mon > > This incident happened before Corona. > > My mangalsutra chain which I have been wearing since the day I got married > broke. So I told my husband that I had already repaired it quite a few > times so this time I was going to exchange it for a new one. We went to one > of the well known jewellery store which we frequent and from where all > my wedding jewellery was brought. > > I showed the sales person my broken chain and requested him to show me new > ones as I was thinking of exchanging it for a new one. > > *The prices of the new chain made my head spin and my husband > uncomfortable*. It was not that we didn't have the money, but spending so > much on it that too *with my husband's retirement round the corner seemed > foolish and unnecessary.* > > Seeing our faces, the salesperson gently suggested that *my old chain > could be repaired by paying a nominal amount*. I sighed and agreed. > Perhaps some other time. Though in my heart of hearts I know that perhaps > that day may never come. Still it doesn't hurt us to be optimistic and > hopeful. > > This is how satisfied we middle class are with our life. > > We adjust, we compromise and we make ourselves believe that we are much > happier than we actually are. > > *All the above QA are based on Quora digest on 10-06- 2021. Quora answers > need not be 100% correct answers * > > *Compiled and posted by R. 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