I stopped reading books and started seeing and observing on my own.Now I have my own idea of the meaning of caste.I now believe that each caste is a path of one's own living and creation of own space-time,economic life made Divinely.Every caste is a compliment of the other castes.I do not want to enter into hair splitting logics and reasonings,which ultimately creates only restlessness. YM YM
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 9:00 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Pranam > Cook, miller, Baker Fisher etc tells the occupation straight. How do Iyer, > Iyengar, chettiar, Mudaliyar, Nair, Rao, etc show the profession?. If it is > implied then there are only 4 varnas showing the profession; caste is > either self generated and accepted or stamped on the back by someone else. > Again as caste was branded by some one else @ JATI, so too the Henotheism > to Greekls by a couple of; the word is self contradiction as it means two > things; one there is only one GOD and all others are Maya or > manifestations; Two, there is a variety of GODs and each has only one GOD > worship while accepting the rest as good in the existence, terming there > are many people and many GODs. Baker , cutter and Clarke worship only > christ whereas each Jati and each individual in each Jati worship one > deity or multiple deities , and fail to understand at the sudden death what > was he trying to do even after the centenary year passed. Henotheism for > Greeks may not fit here in my opinio9n, since, here what has to be done has > been stated so simply, though in a lot of words by a lot of Rishis, > ultimately to seek ONLY ONE, yet it takes Janmas to grasp the idea. > Brahmatheism alternatively may fit here. Thank you KR IRS 71021 > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 18:06, venkat raman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Namaste. It is only India especially Kerala, one should not be called by >> the name of caste. Caste is the name of the inherited occupation. In the UK >> what are these ? Dyer, Cook, Dyer, Thatcher, Slater, Miller, Baker, >> Cheesemen, Spice, Fisher, Shepherd, Carter, Clarke, Skinner etc. Certain >> tribes too practise henotheism. >> >> Venkataraman >> >> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 09:31, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Pranam >>> The truth is Theism, Barter and caste have no correlation at all. >>> The first thing that could have arisen for the ordinary human being of the >>> majority, could have been only food which should have been bartered for a >>> taste and survival with the pleasure. The wise who were minority would have >>> been thinking about the existence and life here and should have come out >>> with the theism; or maybe even then, atheism would have raised its >>> forehead, in demolishing the living factors, so the other side of the coin, >>> theism, would have dawned; but certainly it is wise who were always the >>> minority. So Barter with the majority and Theism with the minority. Then >>> the flow of theism and the barter ,might have stayed the atheism then and >>> there and in the process,commercially, as a barter system was attractive, >>> could have sold more by the creation of the WONT groups which became the >>> castes. Wise advocated only the action and the reaction but the barter >>> developed casteism. Theism hence is mind made or GOD made while the barter >>> and modifications are man made emotionally. >>> KR IRS 61021 >>> >>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 07:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Mar*Theism, Barter, and Caste >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Even today, if you visit the home of any caste based professional, >>>> whose profession is his caste, you will find a God of his profession and a >>>> separate Temple, where the God of the Profession is given prayer. There is >>>> a God guiding the caste, the caste of the particular profession. The Gods >>>> of various castes coordinated to make the Barter economy, based on the >>>> wonderful sense of belonging, prosper. The Barter economy was not based on >>>> the meaningless and pathetic imitation of Newtonian Physics as Economics, >>>> based on money, but on established customs and traditions. >>>> >>>> Every caste designated itself as a Brahmin caste. To know and note >>>> this wonderful caste heritage of ours which we repudiate,(so that our self >>>> contempt becomes secularism),what all one has to do is to visit the home of >>>> any caste family still carrying on the caste profession. You find a God and >>>> a separate Temple of the caste. >>>> >>>> We are now performing the great identity suicide. Our inferiority >>>> complex is so corroding that we do not even care to include the profession >>>> of each caste as a subject of study in our schools and colleges. For the >>>> civils etc examinations, we have only the subjects like economics and >>>> politics and sociology, the pathetic attempts of the humanities that try to >>>> model themselves in line with Newtonian Mechanics, which itself is >>>> struggling for survival,thanks to Relativity Physics and Quantum Physics. >>>> >>>> Without any sense of shame, we call these great professional castes, >>>> the Backward Castes. >>>> >>>> Ours was once the caste based barter economy on the paradigm of Theism. >>>> >>>> To create self contempt in us they have a great narrative about the >>>> Varnas etc, but they do not care to visit one Temple dedicated to a caste. >>>> Our self contempt is so terrible, that without batting an eye lid, we have >>>> persons who advocate cow killing for eating, calling it beef. At one go >>>> they are denigrating our Kamadhenu, Krishna, Gopala, Gopicas, the various >>>> dance forms, they are trying to kill our very proud Hindu heritage. >>>> >>>> Today we cling to the subject Economics, which is protesting that it is >>>> a science like Newtonian Physics and so respectable. In the volumes and >>>> volumes inflicted on us all, a simple question is not answered. If every >>>> firm tries to reduce costs, is it not reducing the incomes also, as your >>>> cost is my income? Does it not lead to the elimination of markets, killing >>>> all firms? >>>> >>>> Each caste has an academic subject, a blend of economic profession and >>>> theistic emotional orientation. The least we can do is to develop the >>>> subjects of those castes and also the particular caste philosophy which >>>> takes care of our environment also. >>>> >>>> YM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "iyer123" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CACDCHC%2BCvXdg6z4uszvdnBPtbVDcPbWS4EzveYc8wSb%3DzMQHsg%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CACDCHC%2BCvXdg6z4uszvdnBPtbVDcPbWS4EzveYc8wSb%3DzMQHsg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZorzQmj1rSmU06BNqx7OkKFG56j_xQg5FngTAaMyk06zgA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZorzQmj1rSmU06BNqx7OkKFG56j_xQg5FngTAaMyk06zgA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZorEEZfgqBLtAQFZ%3DT3oNM1KLYOOEpfaGtpSn6zuDrzxqA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZorEEZfgqBLtAQFZ%3DT3oNM1KLYOOEpfaGtpSn6zuDrzxqA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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