Pranam May be one source of knowhow now you might have stopped; but can one say the process of thinking is without the thoughts of the read books already?. Doing or stopping doing anything, cannot identify any object as being written now unless it is already experienced once. Caste or Jati is never an individual feature at all since Jati arises out of a group as we do have Jati within our 138 members too. Hence Casteism is a defence mechanism of protecting the territory and living in peace on strength. Fights among the Jatis strengthen and weekend as one victorian and another loser go that way. Jati created the kingdoms small to big. Enclosing Jatis , unwanted Jatis were fought. So caste could only be a factor as one of the several reasons, causing the restlessness. Hence caste is the root cause of the restlessness may not be correct. Hair plits have also given rooms for many castes as Mun Kudumi, Pin Kudumi etc. Mind is the cause of the restlessness. Where the mind is in fears , feels tough to tread, there the defence mechanism is evoked, and then the chaos theory has started. That is why our scriptures show the path to control that mind individually and not collectively as each has a different restlessness. KR IRS 71021
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 09:07, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > I stopped reading books and started seeing and observing on my own.Now I > have my own idea of the meaning of caste.I now believe that each caste is a > path of one's own living and creation of own space-time,economic life made > Divinely.Every caste is a compliment of the other castes.I do not want to > enter into hair splitting logics and reasonings,which ultimately creates > only restlessness. > YM > YM > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 9:00 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Pranam >> Cook, miller, Baker Fisher etc tells the occupation straight. How do >> Iyer, Iyengar, chettiar, Mudaliyar, Nair, Rao, etc show the profession?. If >> it is implied then there are only 4 varnas showing the profession; caste is >> either self generated and accepted or stamped on the back by someone else. >> Again as caste was branded by some one else @ JATI, so too the Henotheism >> to Greekls by a couple of; the word is self contradiction as it means two >> things; one there is only one GOD and all others are Maya or >> manifestations; Two, there is a variety of GODs and each has only one GOD >> worship while accepting the rest as good in the existence, terming there >> are many people and many GODs. Baker , cutter and Clarke worship only >> christ whereas each Jati and each individual in each Jati worship one >> deity or multiple deities , and fail to understand at the sudden death what >> was he trying to do even after the centenary year passed. Henotheism for >> Greeks may not fit here in my opinio9n, since, here what has to be done has >> been stated so simply, though in a lot of words by a lot of Rishis, >> ultimately to seek ONLY ONE, yet it takes Janmas to grasp the idea. >> Brahmatheism alternatively may fit here. Thank you KR IRS 71021 >> >> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 18:06, venkat raman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Namaste. It is only India especially Kerala, one should not be called by >>> the name of caste. Caste is the name of the inherited occupation. In the UK >>> what are these ? Dyer, Cook, Dyer, Thatcher, Slater, Miller, Baker, >>> Cheesemen, Spice, Fisher, Shepherd, Carter, Clarke, Skinner etc. Certain >>> tribes too practise henotheism. >>> >>> Venkataraman >>> >>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 09:31, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Pranam >>>> The truth is Theism, Barter and caste have no correlation at all. >>>> The first thing that could have arisen for the ordinary human being of the >>>> majority, could have been only food which should have been bartered for a >>>> taste and survival with the pleasure. The wise who were minority would have >>>> been thinking about the existence and life here and should have come out >>>> with the theism; or maybe even then, atheism would have raised its >>>> forehead, in demolishing the living factors, so the other side of the coin, >>>> theism, would have dawned; but certainly it is wise who were always the >>>> minority. So Barter with the majority and Theism with the minority. Then >>>> the flow of theism and the barter ,might have stayed the atheism then and >>>> there and in the process,commercially, as a barter system was attractive, >>>> could have sold more by the creation of the WONT groups which became the >>>> castes. Wise advocated only the action and the reaction but the barter >>>> developed casteism. Theism hence is mind made or GOD made while the barter >>>> and modifications are man made emotionally. >>>> KR IRS 61021 >>>> >>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 07:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Mar*Theism, Barter, and Caste >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Even today, if you visit the home of any caste based professional, >>>>> whose profession is his caste, you will find a God of his profession and a >>>>> separate Temple, where the God of the Profession is given prayer. There is >>>>> a God guiding the caste, the caste of the particular profession. The Gods >>>>> of various castes coordinated to make the Barter economy, based on the >>>>> wonderful sense of belonging, prosper. The Barter economy was not based on >>>>> the meaningless and pathetic imitation of Newtonian Physics as Economics, >>>>> based on money, but on established customs and traditions. >>>>> >>>>> Every caste designated itself as a Brahmin caste. To know and note >>>>> this wonderful caste heritage of ours which we repudiate,(so that our self >>>>> contempt becomes secularism),what all one has to do is to visit the home >>>>> of >>>>> any caste family still carrying on the caste profession. You find a God >>>>> and >>>>> a separate Temple of the caste. >>>>> >>>>> We are now performing the great identity suicide. Our inferiority >>>>> complex is so corroding that we do not even care to include the profession >>>>> of each caste as a subject of study in our schools and colleges. For the >>>>> civils etc examinations, we have only the subjects like economics and >>>>> politics and sociology, the pathetic attempts of the humanities that try >>>>> to >>>>> model themselves in line with Newtonian Mechanics, which itself is >>>>> struggling for survival,thanks to Relativity Physics and Quantum Physics. >>>>> >>>>> Without any sense of shame, we call these great professional castes, >>>>> the Backward Castes. >>>>> >>>>> Ours was once the caste based barter economy on the paradigm of Theism. >>>>> >>>>> To create self contempt in us they have a great narrative about the >>>>> Varnas etc, but they do not care to visit one Temple dedicated to a caste. >>>>> Our self contempt is so terrible, that without batting an eye lid, we have >>>>> persons who advocate cow killing for eating, calling it beef. At one go >>>>> they are denigrating our Kamadhenu, Krishna, Gopala, Gopicas, the various >>>>> dance forms, they are trying to kill our very proud Hindu heritage. >>>>> >>>>> Today we cling to the subject Economics, which is protesting that it >>>>> is a science like Newtonian Physics and so respectable. In the volumes and >>>>> volumes inflicted on us all, a simple question is not answered. If every >>>>> firm tries to reduce costs, is it not reducing the incomes also, as your >>>>> cost is my income? Does it not lead to the elimination of markets, killing >>>>> all firms? >>>>> >>>>> Each caste has an academic subject, a blend of economic profession and >>>>> theistic emotional orientation. 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