Pranam
The article or news on PRINT is hoarse for more reasons or more cause of
debate to escalate. Rajaram Mohanroy , Dayananda saraswati cult of Arya
Samajam, is only an input to conversion back as if a placebo effect as far
as the Vedic system is concerned. Here, it is said point blank, SINCE
BRAHMAM IS ONE, ALL ARE THE HINDUS IN THE MODERN LANGUAGE AND FOLLOWER OF
THE VEDIC SYSTEM ON THE NOT ONLY EARTH BUT THE MULTIVERSES FOR WHICH
BRAHMAM IS ONE. Hence only, like other religions there is no entry and exit
loads at all. There is neither a convertion nor a reentry. There is no
baptism. Each has the liberty to follow hence he is ahindu; or may leave to
adopt anything else including Atheism, and so the stamp of Nindu is only
hidden and not erased. Whenever in any Janma he can retract back to
Hinduism without any Fanfare. It means, it is the taste of the individual
to follow without any stress or mandate with the conditions of the
existence. So Thyagi can become Rizvi and again be back as Rizvi or Thyagi
or by any other name and yet follow Hinduism. An elaborate book is found in
the USA library, WHY I BECAME A HINDU; it is so.
Number 2 Brahmin is not by birth at all which Vedas do say;
Narayanaswamy and the learned scholar G may not agree as they did not study
well. When born he is only a shudra; and only when has the Poonal, he is
Dwija the second birth; since the right of poonal was denied to a sector by
the revolutionists Brahmins clan having not understood the Veda learnt
properly, named them in their original texts of insult AS shudra. tHE
MEANING OF THE SHUDRA as per the Purusha Suktam, Manu sastra are entirely
different; Chandogya upanishad 4 2 1 to 5 between kshatriya king
Janasruti and Brahmin Rishi Raikava reveals the meaning if shudra;
SHUE +DRA iti eva shudra: means OVERPOWERING THE SORROW; SHUE=SORROW; dra=
OVERPOWERING. One more interpretation is that all those others, viz who are
not expected to wear the brahma yagnam because of their posts line Veda
readers, People protectors and social guardians for life termed
respectively as Brahmin, Kshatriya and Vysya; a carte-blanche is needed
only when there is a necessity; so one who is prevented from reading Vedas
(BG) and Poonal are shudras; that means today 99.9% including ,pretending
to wear without the qualities, are only shudras.
Chandogya citation: Fourth Adhyaya, Second Khanda (5 mantras) Mantra
4.2.1. 1. Therefore Jānaśruti Pautrāyaṇa having taken six hundred cows, a
necklace, and a carriage drawn by a pair of mules, went to Raikva
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/raikva#hinduism> and addressed him
thus.—242. [Note.—Aśvatarīratham (Aśvatarīratha)—a mule-chariot, a
carriage drawn by a pair of mules. All these were taken by the king as
presents for Raikva.] Mantra 4.2.2. 2. O Raikva; these six hundred cows,
this pearl necklace, this carriage with mules (are your fee). Teach me, O
Master, that deity which you worship.—243. Mantra 4.2.3. [Note.—Hāretvā—it
is a compound of *hāra <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/hara#hinduism>*
+ *itvā*; “hāra” means “the necklace”; and “itvā” = “carriage.” The Visarga
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/visarga#hinduism> of *hāraḥ
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/hara#hinduism>* is elided
anomalously.] 3. The other replied, “Fie! the necklace and the carriage, O
Śūdra <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shudra#hinduism>! be thine,
even together with the cows.” Then Jānaśruti Pautrāyaṇa taking again a
thousand cows, a pearl necklace, a carriage yoked with a pair of mules, and
his daughter went back to that (place where Raikva was).”—244. Mantra
4.2.4. 4. The king said to him, “Raikva! these one thousand cows, this
pearl necklace, this carriage drawn by a pair of mules, this wife, and this
village in which thou dwellest (are thy fee). Teach me, O Master.”—245.
*Note*.—When Raikva declined at first, the Sūdra king made the natural
mistake, for a man of his caste, that the presents were perhaps too small
and so the sage had refused to teach. So he came back with a larger gift
and brought his daughter even to be given in marriage to the saint. This
was another mistake. The attraction of women is perhaps the greatest, but
Raikva had transcended this stage. All that he wanted was a smart servant
to drag him about in his car and scratch his itches. Seeing that the king
had not anticipated his wants, but was offering him things which were
perfectly useless to him, Raikva naturally became annoyed, and tauntingly
remarked as follows. Mantra 4.2.5. 5. He looked for a while at her
face, and said (to the king), “Take away these (gifts) o Śūdra! Thinkest
thou to speak with me through this means.” (Then the king-served Raikva as
a pupil, and he being pleased) told (the secret) to him. These are the
Raikvaparṇa villages in the land of the Mahāvṛṣas (Kashmir
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/kashmir#hinduism>) where Raikva dwelt
in order to teach him.—246. [Note.—Ālapayiṣyathā—thou wantest to learn, to
make my acquaintance. Without serving the teacher, thou wishest to become
intimate with him by means (*mukha
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mukha#hinduism>*) of these gifts
alone. The king then propitiated the sage by serving him as a pupil. Raikva
being pleased with the service, then said to him the secret doctrine, as
taught in the next *khaṇḍa
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/khanda#hinduism>*. The phrase “tasmai
sa ha uvāca” must be read here.] Madhva’s commentary called the
Bhāṣya: Raikva
angrily addresses Jānaśruti twice as O Śūdra! Jānaśruti Pautrāyaṇa was not,
however, a Śūdra but a Kṣatriya
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/kshatriya#hinduism> by caste. Why was
he then addressed as Śūdra? The Commentator answers it thus: The word
Śūdra here means one who is overpowered (*dra*) with sorrow (*śuc*). (The
king was overwhelmed with grief at not knowing the secret of Raikva’s
popularity.) Moreover, Pautrayaṇa was a king (and could not have been a
Śūdra by caste). Thus we find in the Padma Purāṇa
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/padma-purana#hinduism>:—The king
Pautrāyaṇa being overcome with grief was addressed as Śūdra by the sage. He
learnt the Prāṇa <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/prana#hinduism>-Vidyā
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vidya#vedanta> from the sage and
attained the highest merit.” *Note*.—This is the conventional explanation
of the word Śūdra, used twice in this passage. The explanation is as old as
the days of the Vedānta Sūtras
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vedantasutra#hinduism>, where also
this passage is similarly explained. In ancient India
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/india#hinduism>, however, there were
Śūdras <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shudra#hinduism> who were
kings, and Brahmanas
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahmana#vedanta> did
not scruple to enter into matrimonial alliances with the Śūdras; and never
hesitated to impart Brahma Vidyā
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahmavidya#hinduism> to them.
And again the chandogya Mantra 4.4.4. 4. He said to him: “Of what
family art thou, my friend?” He replied: “I do not know, Sir, of what
family I am. I asked my mother, and she answered: “In my youth, when I was
free to go about as a maid-servant (and was not in seclusion), I found
thee. Therefore I do not know of what family thou art. I am Jabālā by name,
thou art Satyakāma.” I am therefore Satyakāma Jābāla, Sir.—258. Mantra
4.4.5. 5. He then said to him, “A person undeserving of Brahma
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahma#vedanta>-knowledge is never
capable of such speech. Child! bring the sacred fuel. I shall initiate
thee, since thou didst not swerve from truth.” So it is not the birth.
Brahma knowledge alone is the criteria to become a brahmin. And those who
write aviveka and sex materials abusing others are not Brahmins at all and
may be the the words they call others may be only as PER THE WORDS OF THE
VEDAM.
So on account of these, Rizvi can be any one but he shall sell by his
own voluntarily and not as political jimmiks. KR IRS 12/12/21
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 at 08:26, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
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> https://theprint.in/opinion/becoming-a-hindu-is-not-that-easy-even-if-a-waseem-rizvi-turns-into-jitendra-tyagi/779215/
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