Pranam
Q1 to 4 Some kenaappaya indiscreetly keep shouting from the rooftop on
Goraka virtuosity of style of the presentation, the only admirer Naraka.
Has any one known what Sarada, Vandana Misra etc?. Killing softly in
Bengali English (English professor the Goraka felt it as a standard text)
Adi Sankara debated against Mandana Misra (Vandana Misra???) and wife
Ubhaya Bharathi (SAarada?) present to defend Mandana Misra. Bengali can
write but not the kerala born TN settled Goraka make a copy and
paste,UNMEANINGFUL.
The debate enumerated is re production incorrectly from Madhava (later
Vidyaranyar 2nd head after his uncle as head of Sringeri peetam today, and
not the original one about which I had already written (AT kOODALI FAR AWAY
FROM TODAY MUTT AND TAKEN AWAY BY VIDYARANYA AS CM OF BUKKA WHEN THAT MUTT
HEAD WHO WENT TO KASI DID NOT RETURN BACK) ; THE 1ST PONTIFF AND THE SECOND
PONTIFF OF MUTTS AMONG THE 4 MUTTS ESTABLISHED WERE aDI SHANKARA AND ONE OF
THE 4 DISCIPLES OF SHANKARA AS THE SECOND;and >278 karnataka mutts of
dasamsa thandi sankara mutt will have the line of pontiffs as one and 2 as
adi shankara and anyone guru of that place here at karnataka
sugavaneswarar; since Koodali was tagged on at present place Sringeri,
Madhava himself wrote the history of Mutt as just 500 to 600 years (1350AD)
before he took over when Adi shankarea lived. Even assuming each pontiff
lived for 30 years (may not be in all cases) may be 29 gurus might have
been there only ; then if so the present 37th guru as on 2022 of sringeri
including the Adi Shankara as first guru followed by Sugavaneswarar, cannot
have lived for average 670 years /34=20 years only each?.
On the contrary all other Mutts have their 75+ numbered pontiff now
ruling the mutte which is at the ratio o f30 years per pontiff, exceeds
2000 years and a reasonable fact. Sringeri present is a mutt of Vidyaranya
Has so many similar mutts do exist in Karnataka today. The original one was
Koodali. Kumarila Bhatta the brahmin who as a poorva mimasaka wanted to
know the Buddists principles, joined as a fake and was traced out later;
his disciple was Mandana Misrar from Bihar. There is another Vijayam which
states that the debate took place in Madhya pradesh. Nagarjuna and Dharma
Keerthi Buddists (brahmins) lived around these periods of 700 -800 AD as
narrated by the history of the monastery at Tibet which is incorporated in
the books as well as in the Fahien and Yuan tswang self narrations
translated. The debates are incorporated in these periods in those book
versions ,where at least 7 different Sanakaras appear having debated with
the head of Nalanda university 750AD Dharnma keerthi. Dharma keerthi had
strict conditions in debates where the loser shall jump in Ganga and die;
thus 7 shankaras died as narrated; Dharma keerthi then was > 80 years old.
Moreover buddhism was waning by that time 800 AD and was far away from
Hinduism in 450 BCE; so as Maha Periava had written in Deivathin kural, Adi
Shankara had nothing to do with the buddisma or its defeat at all.
The madhva vijayam narration speaks about the rift between the
karma kanda and the sanyasa kanda; the Vedic culture of repute was brought
down by the POORVA MIMAMSAKAS LIKE MANDAAN MISHRA'S LIKE BRAHMINS who like
present Jihadis of brahmins were hell bent on rituals; the falling down of
women started from there only neary since 800 AD. The karma kanda poorva
mimasakas following the principle that only the ritual takes one to brahmam
was so forceful, the mantra tantra cults were ruling the Indian sky. May be
it is felt by some Indologists that Buddhism started around 1000 BCE and
later Jainism adopted by Brahmins also ( even today the title
TIRTHANKARA is common in Sringeri mutt as well as the Jains) contributed to
the rituals-adaptations of tantras by the Buddists and Jains; to counter
the Vedic yagnas and cult, tantras were invoked; so hindu mimaskas poorva
and later Uttara mimamsakas, started forceful rituals where the society was
enslaved into harsh customs; treating women brahmins below par; enforcing
similar stringent and pungent conditions forced upon women; lot of
different methods of ritual procedures; and there the sankara debate is
told thus, as between a SANYASI vs GRAHASTHAN viz shankara and Mandana
misra; some say in Bihar some vijayam says at MP; the crux of the debate is
that sanyasis seek refuge under the vedas just to escape the Grahasthas
rituals enforced by the Poorva mimamsakas; theer it is stated in those
vijayams, advaitham was enlightened supposed to be by shankara; and power
of rituaals were enunciated by Misra; when the garland of Misra given by
Ubhaya bharati was losing the luster, she wanted to advance the arguement
of grahasta comprise of of husband half and wife half; so defeating the
husband is only 50%; so Shankara shall defeat Bharati also; so the debate
opened up with intricate questions of marital dharma posed by Bharathi;
Shankara took a break, did parakaya pravesam in a king's body; then had to
return back for the replies; thus a lead was placed in the madhava vijayam
without any historical basis.
Had Adi shankara existed around 700 AD as an authority HE would
have crossed the Nalanda and even found such history in Tswang and Fahien;
but never recorded anywhere; on the contrary Indonesia, Malaya etc have
certain names in their History; Adi shankara is the name deciphered by
them; also Dharma Keerthi and sankaras in a half a dozen in the
buddhist manuals of Tibet. Present Sringeri is not founded by Adi shankara;
in Karnataka so many Hindu sankara mutts do make a claim as founded by Adi
shankara.
Q6,7,8 ?
Q9 Did Sita desired (english professor)
Q10/11 Leave alone which kalpa yuga Ramayanam occurred again and
again so as to leave the west behind; but by a nasa software the period of
Ramayana incidents as per astrological constructions in the Ramayanam was
tallied as dates seen under by my senior in the dept who had written a book
as under: he established that valmiki Ramayanam is truth.
Rama was born at 12 30 pm on 10th Jan 5114 BCE ; this 2022 Rama completed
7136 years age; Bharatha was born on 11th Jan 5114 BCE 4 30 AM;
preincarnation day was (when mandara conversed with Kaikeyi) 4th Jan 5089
BCE; Vali Vadham 3rd apr 5076 BCE; hanuman visit to Sri Lanka 12/9/5076
BCE; Hanuman return back from Sri Lanka 14/9/5076 BCE; Vanara march for
yuddham into Sri Lanka on 20/9/5076 BCE; sita was married to Rama in her
6th year when Rama was 13-14 year old. (5100 BCE). A few shown here.
However similar planets might have occurred a million years back and so the
earlier kalpa and yuga might have had the same history. Also keep
remembering the precision of axis change which led to the Ramanavami
shifted from Jan thai to april chitrai (the chitra keeps changing according
to panchangam).
KR IRs 17322
On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 08:56, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:
> QUES ANSW DIVINE 03-2022-17
>
> Dear friends,
>
> These are information compiled as QA by me in 1998’s-2004’s and stored in
> my computer. They are posted by *very learnt members*.
>
> *BEING COMPILATION THERE MAY BE ERRORS.*
>
> Sincerely,
>
> *R. Gopalakrishnan, 78, dated 17-03-2022*
>
> Q1 Who was Sarada?
>
> A1 Sarada wife of Vandana misra was an avtar of saraswathi. Since Sarada
> was involved in household duties, she could not be present throughout the
> debate. So she placed a garland on each of them and said that the
> garland of the defeated person would fade.
>
> Every day heated debate was going on. Every day Sarada would go there
> during mid-day and invite *Mandana for Bhojanam and Sankara for Bhiksha.*
> This continued for five six days...
>
> Then on one day when Sarada went to invite them for meals, she found that
> the Mala on Mandana’s neck had faded. So she invited both of them
> together for Bhiksha.
>
> Q2 Whether Sankaracharya debated with Sarada?
>
> A2 Yes. Sankara said that if he had to enter into a debate with a woman to
> establish his contentions, then that should be done. Did not
> Yajnavalkya argue with Gargi and Janaka with Sulabhaa?
>
>
>
> Finding Sankara un defeatable in any topic, Sarada thought like this.
> Sankara had become a Sanyasi straight from boyhood. So he would not have
> known many things on Sringara sastram. He was also forbidden to answer
> such questions. So she started asking him such questions.
>
> If he did not reply, he would be called as ignorant and be declared
> defeated. If he answered, it would be against his Dharma. *So he wanted
> one month’s time to answer those questions*. This was agreed to.
>
> Q3 What is the story of Sankaracharya becoming king Amaruka?
>
> A3 Then Sankara lifted himself in the air and saw a king (called Amaruka)
> who had just then died in a forest. His queens and relatives were
> lamenting. Sankara left his body to be taken care of for one month by
> his disciples and entered the dead body of Amaruka. He asked Amaruka’s
> son to take care of the administration. ….
>
> Sankara returned and *defeated Sarada also.* Mandana who was defeated in
> the debate became the first disciple of Sankara with the name of
> Sureshwaracharya. He was appointed as the first Sankaracharya of
> Sringeri. Sankara also built a temple for Sarada at Sringeri.
>
> Q4 Who wrote about the Mandana misra and sarada episodes?
>
> A4 This episode is as given in SANKARADIGVIJAYAM of Vidyaranya.
>
> Vidyaranya himself was one disciple -descendant Sankaracharya of
> Sringeri. He was earlier called Madhava and was the Prime Minister of
> Vijayanagar Kingdom.
>
> Q5 Do Parur near alwaye has got more temples?
>
> A5 The reason for so many temples in the region is attributed to the
> influence of Travancore State and Cochin State rulers who ruled North Parur
> for many years.
>
>
>
> Also at different times in history, *Karnataka Brahmins (Pottie, Embran
> etc), Tamil Brahmins (Iyers) and GSB Brahmins (Prabhu, Shenoy, Pai etc)
> came to this town*, settled here and constructed temples for themselves
> and for their workers who spoke same or similar languages. Some of the
> famous temples found there are:
>
> Sree Venketachalapathi Temple Potten Street, KMK Junction.Sree
> Venugopalaswami temple, Chennamangalam. Mookambika Saraswathi Temple- One
> of the most important Saraswathy temples in Kerala.Peruvaram Mahadeva
> Temple. Kannankulangara Sreekrishna Temple
>
> Q6 Is there a theory during Lunar and solar eclipse all water become
> Ganga water?
>
>
>
> A6 Yes. During times of lunar and solar eclipse all waters will be
> considered equal to Ganga water; waterin rivers, even if it carries
> horses, donkeys and cadaver,will become purified with current.
>
>
>
> Q7 Whether in Sri Padmanabhaswamy Temple , Tiruvananthapuram,
> Kerala the idol is made of pure gold?
>
> *A7 Yes. The best part of the temple is the huge idol of Lord Vishnu
> sleeping over the snake is turning into gold(it weighs almost 700 kg)! *
>
> It is believed that when Mahmud of Ghazni invaded India in the middle
> ages, the people of the then kingdom invented a black coating which
> would not wear out even by the strongest chemicals. They coated the
> large idol with this so that the plunderers wont come to know that its
> made up of gold.They were unable to remove the coating after the
> invaders left. But recently, in the past 10 yrs or so the coating is
> finally wearing out little by little.
>
> Q8 What is the speciality of Brihadeeshwar temple, Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu.
>
> A8 The Gopuram of this Temple does not cast any Shadow. Also the Vimaanam(
> top of the gopuram) of this temple is made of one Single Stone.
>
> Q9 Did Sita desired to end her life in Ganga after she was left there by
> Lakshmana?
>
> A9 Yes, Then she heard the soft voice of the river goddess say, "*Let
> life go, Sita. Do not outlive life. Come home. Come home. Dive into me."*
>
> Sita was about to step into the river when she heard the voice of an old
> man."Do not enter the river," he said. Sita looked at the shaggy old man
> and asked, "Who are you?"
>
> "I am Valmiki, a poet and a hermit. I live in this forest. Make my home
> yours. "He led Sita to his home in the forest.
>
> There Sita gave birth to Rama's twins sons, Kusa and Lava. For the next
> twelve years she and her sons lived with Valmiki.
>
> Q10 When was Ramayana composed? What was the end of Rama and Sita?
>
> *A10 Sita was living with Valmiki for 25 years with lava and Kusa her twin
> sons.* During that time, Valmiki composed a poem called the Ramayana.
> When he finished it, he taught the poem to the boys line-by-line. He taught
> them how to sing the poem while playing the flute and drum.
>
> The boys learned well. In Ayodhya, King Rama decided to hold a great
> public festival. He invited everyone in the kingdom to take part. There
> would be music, story-telling and singing.
>
> *Kusa and Lava came to Ayodhya to recite what Valmiki called the earth's
> first poem. *
>
> On the first day of the festival, the boys began singing the story. Rama
> heard about this wonderful poem and came to see it performed. After
> hearing only a few lines, Rama asked, "What is this beautiful song called?"
>
> "Ramayana," said Kusa.
>
> Rama looked at the twins. His heart ached with emotion. "These are my
> sons!" he declared.He sent a messenger to find Sita and convince her to
> return to Ayodhya. The next day Sita returned. She was dressed in bright
> gold and scarlet. Rama was overjoyed.*Sita approached Rama and said, "Let
> me prove my innocence before you once and for all."*"I give you
> permission," Rama replied.
>
> Then Sita took a step back and said, "Mother earth, if I have been
> faithful to my husband, take me home."
>
> The earth rumbled. The ground rolled and moved beneath Sita. *With a
> great noise the ground opened and took Sita back. The earth shook again and
> closed.*
>
> For that moment, everywhere in the whole universe, there was harmony.
>
> "I will never see Sita again as long as I live on earth," Rama said."It is
> a brief life given to us."*Rama ruled Ayodhya for a thousand years.*
>
> One day Rama he thought, "Where is my life? And where am I?I want to go
> home now. I was born of the god, Vishnu, and it is time for me to return to
> him."
>
> Rama left the palace and entered the crowded street of Ayodhya. Everyone
> stood quietly as their king passed.
>
> Rama continued walking until he reached the banks of the Sarayu.He touched
> its water with his feet. All the gods looked down on him. Even Brahma, the
> creator, came in person to see Rama.
>
> He spoke to Rama: "Come, O Vishnu, join your brothers, Lakshmana,
> Satrughna, and Bharata. *Return to Vishnu. Return to heaven."*
>
> *With Brahma's words, Rama smiled and stepped into the river. All of
> Rama's followers entered the river after him and all went to heaven. Rama
> was home.*
>
> Q11 What is the benefit of listening to Ramayana story?
>
> A11 The Ramayana was loved and praised by all. The gods were pleased. *Lava
> and Kusa traveled throughout India singing Valmiki's glorious poem about
> their father. *
>
> Wherever they went they said, *"Men who listen to the Ramayana will live
> a long life. They will be free of sins and will have many sons. Women who
> listen to the Ramayana will be blessed with children like Rama and his
> brothers*.
>
> All those who listen please Rama. Such is the glory of this story. May all
> who recite it or listen to it regularly find increased love, wisdom, and
> strength."
>
> Q12 What is the speciality of Sri Kalahastheshwara Temple, Kalahasti,
> Andhra Pradesh
>
> A12 The Only Hindu Temple in the world *which is opened even during Lunar
> and Solar Eclipses* as the Graha Doshas do not effect this Temple.
>
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