Pranam Had *I wished * I could have done it; but what is there to publish which are already rendered by the saints and the science world. No one can do anything new except changing the words and styles and calling all of them as inventions of their own. Fritzof, Wilber and Chomsky are all visitors to this land who wanted to learn from here to commercialise their treatises. The lessons they had left them incomplete; and those born in this soil even today are ignorant and if so, how can we expect these people to render it correctly? Yet I appreciate the westerners for their boldness to learn the half-way and yet write books, which many half-learned vedics of India cannot do. However hard volumes exist, we are still dry as many books are in dust in the world libraries, but our heads are as dry as a desert. Entharo mahanubhavulu antarikku vandanamulu. KR IRS 30422
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 20:44, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > Rajaram Sir,All your posts in a few separate volumes need to be published > urgently.Otherwise they can be lost.Your books if published can become more > noted and famous than those of Fritzof Capra and Ken Wilber. > YM > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 3:39 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Pranam >> >> WHAT IS THE MEANING TCR WRITE UP >> >> 1 Noam Chomsky University of Pensylvania ( MAKES THE CONFUSED STATEMENT >> OF THE CONSCIOUSNESS READ WITH THE LINGUIST TRAITS INBORN -CONFUSINGLY >> UNABLE TO CONNECT THE ADVAITHAM OF ADI SANKARA EXPLANATIONS OF MAYA ( >> INCIDENTALLY THIS WAS DENIED BY Sri Ramanujar and Madwa called him as >> Mayavadin) ; also virtuality of the creation is explained in all the >> upanishads where the soul @ Atma attributed by Chomsky, is explained in >> depth; subject-object, perceiver and the perceived, Mayha , virtual, and >> all are written already by me and perhaps , may again write connecting >> this article later; also Rigvedam speaks about VAK in detail as inborn >> from the mind and the manifestation itself is from the mind alone} KR IRS >> 29422 >> >> Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Extracted article below 1A to 24 paras: >> >> 1A makes the important point that the subject of this subject-object >> relation that ultimately gives an emotional meaning to all language as >> emotionally >> constructed in the mind must be consciousness itself. >> >> 2 Evolution and natural selection have selected emotions to defend the >> survival >> of the body, which is often stated as the survival of the fittest body. >> The body expresses emotions because that’s how the body survives in the >> world, which allows the body to reproduce itself in the form of another >> body. Over eons of time, those emotional expressions that best defend >> the survival of the body and allow the body to reproduce itself in the >> form of another body have been selected for in terms of body survival as >> the body undergoes genetic evolution. Natural selection in the context of >> genetic evolution is what the survival of the fittest body is all about. >> Those bodies that are best able to express survival emotions are the bodies >> that are best able to survive and reproduce themselves in the form of >> another body, and natural selection is how those survival emotions are >> selected. Natural selection is selecting those bodies for survival that are >> best able to express the survival emotions that allow the body to survive >> and reproduce itself in the form of another body. >> >> 3 a survival emotion?-- . We live in a body-eat-body world-- if we eat >> other bodies. -- Even plants must eat the photons that arrive from the sun >> through the process of photosynthesis in order to survive.--- For an >> animal, -- eating the bodies of other plants and animals. At the same time, >> in order to survive, the animal must avoid being eaten by another animal >> that also wants to survive. >> >> 4 body survival works is through the expression of fear and desire, ---. >> A problem arises when the desire to eat comes into conflict with the fear >> of being eaten. ------and natural selection have designed the expression of >> emotions within a body to give pleasure when a desire is satisfied and to >> give pain when a fear is manifested. -----In essence, eating feels good and >> is pleasurable while being eaten feels bad and is painful. >> >> 5$$$ The expression of emotional attachments are just as much survival >> emotions as are the expression of the primitive survival emotions of fear >> and desire, and evolution and natural selection have selected for the >> expression of emotional attachments as survival emotions in the same way as >> for the expression of fear and desire. >> >> 6 @@@ ( SUMMING UP OF 1 TO 5): All meaning is emotional in nature and >> is given within an emotional context. The meaning we give to our language >> is always given within an emotional context, which is established as >> language is emotionally constructed within our minds in a subject-object >> relation. The relation between the subject and its object is always an >> emotional relationship. As Chomsky points out, the ultimate nature of the >> subject is consciousness itself. Consciousness itself gives meaning to its >> relation with its object within an emotional context. Biology is telling us >> that the only purpose of the expression of emotions is to defend the >> survival of the body. All emotional expressions are survival emotions. >> Evolution and natural selection have selected those emotional expressions >> that best allow for the survival and reproduction of the form of the body. >> That’s what the survival of the fittest body is all about. We live in a >> body-eat-body world where bodies must eat each other in order to add energy >> to their forms and survive. Emotional expressions are the energetic nature >> of body survival in a body-eat-body world, where the energy needed for body >> survival can only be found in other bodies. The expression of fear and >> desire are primitive survival emotions, but even the expression of the >> social emotions of emotional attachments are survival emotions. >> >> 7 This is where the scientific analysis goes off the rails. Does >> consciousness arise from the body? This is the big scientific question that >> we have to answer. Unfortunately, neither biology nor neuroscience can >> answer this question. >> >> 8 At this point in the scientific argument, most people will >> passionately object to it since they feel absolutely certain that their >> consciousness arises from their body, specifically from their brain. The >> nature of this phenomenon is actually well understood and accepted in both >> psychology and neuroscience. Whatever consciousness is, when consciousness >> emotionally identifies itself with the form of its body, the normal >> subject-object relation of consciousness itself in emotional relation with >> its object is distorted into a relation of the body with some other thing >> as the body is taken to be the subject. The ultimate nature of the subject >> is consciousness itself, but with emotional self-identification, the body >> is mistakenly taken to be the subject as consciousness emotionally >> identifies itself with its body. >> >> 9 @@@ SUMMING UP 6 TO 8: The big question is about what consciousness >> really is, which is a question about the true nature of the source of >> consciousness. Unfortunately, neither biology nor neuroscience can answer >> the question of whether consciousness arises from the body or whether >> consciousness has some other source that is beyond the body. If we want to >> discover a scientific answer, we’ll have to inquire at a more fundamental >> level of science than biology or neuroscience. >> >> 102@@@ The most fundamental level of science we have is theoretical >> physics. Theoretical physics is the science that explains the nature of the >> space-time geometry of the world and the nature of all matter and energy in >> the world. In the last 25 years or so, theoretical physics has come to the >> conclusion that neither the space-time geometry of the world nor the nature >> of matter and energy in the world are really fundamental. Instead, the >> fundamental things are information and energy that give rise to the >> appearance of the space-time geometry of the world and the nature of all >> matter and energy in the world. Everything that appears in the world, >> including the space-time geometry of the world and the nature of all matter >> and energy in the world, is reducible to more fundamental information and >> energy. This conclusion is called the holographic principle of quantum >> gravity.{ MAYA?} The holographic principle explains how all the >> fundamental information for the world is encoded and how all the >> fundamental energy for the world is expressed. >> >> 11@@@ Before delving into the scientific details of the holographic >> principle, its worth explaining things in more metaphorical terms. This >> kind of explanation was given over two thousand years ago by Plato in >> the Allegory of the Cave, and more recently in the movie the Matrix. The >> basic idea is that the world we perceive is like a movie that we’re >> watching or a computer-generated virtual reality game that we’re playing. >> We watch the movie as animated images of the movie are projected from a >> movie screen to our point of view out in the movie audience. In terms of >> a computer-generated virtual reality, animated images of the virtual >> reality are projected from a computer screen to our own point of view as we >> play the game. We really don’t exist inside the virtual reality movie, >> but out in the movie audience. We exist as a presence of consciousness out >> in the movie audience, which is only a point of view of consciousness that >> arises in relation to the movie screen. We exist as the presence of >> consciousness, present at a point of view out in the movie audience, that >> perceives the virtual reality movie. We only believe that we exist in the >> movie when we emotionally identify ourselves with our character in the >> movie, which is our avatar in the virtual reality. Our character in the >> movie or avatar in the virtual reality takes the form of a body that >> appears in the world we perceive. Our body, like everything else we >> perceive in that world, is imaginary and is no more real than an animated >> image of the movie projected from the movie screen to our point of view out >> in the movie audience. When we emotionally identify ourselves with our >> body, we take ourselves to be our character in the movie or avatar in the >> virtual reality. The only thing that’s really real, which paradoxically is >> not really a thing, is the true nature of what we really are, which is the >> consciousness out in the movie audience. >> >> 12 If you’re willing to accept that weirdness, then it’s possible to >> give a scientific explanation for why the world we appear to live in is no >> more real than a computer-generated virtual reality, just like depicted in >> the movie the Matrix. >> >> 13 In relativity theory, the observer is nothing more than the >> perceiving consciousness present at a point of view in space. { DRIG >> DRISHYA?} Reality theory doesn’t attempt to explain what consciousness is, >> only that the observer is present at a point of view in space. When that >> point of view of consciousness in space undergoes accelerated motion, an >> event horizon arises that limits the observer’s observations of things in >> space. That limitation of the observer’s observations in space is due to >> the constancy of the speed of light for all observers, independent of their >> state of relative motion. The speed of light is like the maximal rate of >> information transfer in three dimensional space. The observer’s event >> horizon is a two dimensional bounding surface of space that limits its >> observations of things in space. Nothing is observable to the observer >> beyond the limits of its event horizon. >> >> 14 That encoding of information occurs on the observer’s event horizon >> that acts as a holographic screen, similar to how information is encoded on >> a computer screen. The screen encodes information in terms of pixels, where >> a pixel is an area element defined on the screen. Each pixel encodes a >> single bit of information in a binary code of 1’s and 0’s. The observer’s >> event horizon, which is a two dimensional bounding surface of space, is >> encoding information just like a computer screen. The holographic principle >> was first suggested by Leonard Susskind and Gerald ‘t Hooft to resolve >> paradoxes that seemed to arise in a theory of quantum gravity if quantum >> gravity was understood to be formulated in the conventional sense of a >> quantum field theory, like quantum electrodynamics. >> >> 15 The way the holographic principle will be explained here is along >> the lines of the research of Ted Jacobson and Tom Banks. Jacobson was able >> to show that whenever a holographic world is defined on a holographic >> screen, that world is governed by the law of gravity in the form of >> Einstein’s field equations for the space-time metric. The space-time metric >> is the gravitational field, and the law of gravity is understood to arise >> from the curvature of the space-time geometry of that holographic world. >> Jacobson understood a holographic screen as an event horizon that arises in >> an observer’s accelerated frame of reference, like a Rindler horizon. When >> that horizon encodes information along the lines of the holographic >> principle, and when that horizon has a temperature along the lines of the >> Unruh temperature, the laws of thermodynamics imply Einstein’s field >> equations for the space-time metric. Einstein’s field equations are not >> really anything fundamental, but are more like a thermodynamic equation of >> state that governs whatever events appear to happen inside that holographic >> world when that world is near thermal equilibrium. The law of gravity is >> not really fundamental, but is a natural consequence of encoding >> information on a holographic screen that arises as an event horizon in an >> observer’s accelerated frame of reference and the temperature of that event >> horizon, which arises from the observer’s own accelerated motion. The law >> of gravity for that holographic world is reducible to the information >> encoded on the observer’s holographic screen and the thermal energy >> inherent in that holographic world, which arises from the observer’s own >> accelerated motion. >> >> 16 Tom Banks took Jacobson’s work : A qubit of information is >> mathematically represented by a matrix, like a Pauli spin matrix. A spin ½ >> variable, represented by a Pauli spin matrix, can only point up or down, >> and encodes information in a binary code like a switch that is either on >> or off. This information is entangled. Quantum entanglement is a natural >> result of matrices encoding information. In terms of the holographic >> principle, on the two dimensional surface of a sphere, an SU(2) matrix like >> a Pauli spin matrix, which is a two dimensional array of numbers, encodes >> information in a binary code, but that information is encoded in a >> rotationally invariant way since the SU(2) matrix also gives a mathematical >> representation of rotational symmetry on the surface of the sphere. Quantum >> entanglement is a mathematical expression of this rotational symmetry. >> >> 17 That’s basically the whole story of the holographic principle. >> Whenever an observer enters into an accelerated frame of reference, an >> event horizon arises that limits the observer’s observations and acts as >> the observer’s holographic screen when that horizon encodes qubits of >> information. This encoding of information is understood to >> mathematically arise in terms of matrices, which are two dimensional arrays >> of numbers defined on the two dimensional surface of the observer’s event >> horizon. >> >> 18@@@ summing up: Everything the observer can observe in its own >> holographic world is reducible to the information encoded on its own >> holographic screen and the energy that flows through its own holographic >> world. Everything the observer can observe in its own holographic world is >> like a holographic image projected from its own holographic screen to its >> own point of view at the center of that holographic world. Those >> holographic images are animated in the flow of energy that flows through >> that holographic world, which is the same energy that flows through the >> quantum computer. That energy arises from the observer’s own accelerated >> motion. The observer itself is the consciousness present at the central >> point of view of that holographic world. In no significant way is this >> scientific explanation any different from that of a computer-generated >> virtual reality, like depicted in the movie the Matrix. Everything the >> observer can perceive in its own holographic world is imaginary in the >> sense of the projected and animated images of a holographic world. Only the >> consciousness of the observer, present at the central point of view of its >> own holographic world, is really real and has its own independent existence >> and reality.{ If so how there is pelled matrix computable energy. Which >> is also virtual only?} >> >> 19 a few loose ends(???) -- by multiple observers,---- each present >> at their own individual point of view? ----The answer is information >> sharing. ---Each observer observes the events of its own holographic world >> ---- but when those bounding surfaces of space overlap in the sense of a >> Venn diagram, they can share information, just like the information sharing >> that occurs in a network of connected computer screens, like the internet.{ >> HOW?}. --- >> >> 20 but where does the observer come from?----- What is the source of >> the consciousness that arises at the central point of view of its own >> holographic world? ----The big clue we have is to understand what happens >> to the observer when that acceleration comes to an end.--- In theoretical >> physics, the end of that acceleration is called a freely falling frame >> of reference (??/).---- What happens to the observer? >> >> 21 What happens to the observer when its holographic world disappears >> from existence from its own point of view in a freely falling frame of >> reference? We can only answer this question if we understand the true >> nature of the source of the observer’s consciousness. >> >> 22 To understand the true nature of the source of the observer’s >> consciousness, it helps to discuss things in the language of spirituality. >> In the Advaita Vedanta tradition of India, this individual spirit is >> called Atman. The big question is: What is the source of this individual >> presence of consciousness that arises at the central point of view of its >> own holographic world? --which in India is called Brahman. Western theology >> confuses the concept of a Great Spirit by calling it God and then >> mistakenly attributing individual or personal qualities to this concept of >> God. Western theology makes the mistake of treating this concept of God >> as another object that arises in a subject-object relation, which is the >> concept of an I-Thou relation. >> >> 23 In some mysterious way, the individual spirit becomes divided from >> the Great Spirit.(Jeevatma and Paramatma brahmam) In terms of >> consciousness, the individual spirit is an individual presence of >> consciousness that arises at the central point of view of its own >> holographic world, while the Great Spirit can best be understood as >> undivided or undifferentiated consciousness. The Great Spirit is One >> consciousness. The Great Spirit is the One Source of the individual spirit >> as the individual spirit divides itself or separates itself from the Great >> Spirit. The individual spirit can only have the experience of perceiving >> its own holographic world in that state of separation and division. >> >> This brings us back to the inevitable conclusion of theoretical physics >> that the observer’s holographic world only can appear to come into >> existence when the observer enters into an accelerated frame of reference. >> The observer of its own holographic world is an individual spiritual >> presence of consciousness that arises at the central point of view of its >> own holographic world. The source of that individual spiritual presence of >> consciousness is the Great Spirit, which is One Consciousness. The >> individual spirit of the observer can only perceive its own holographic >> world when it divides and separates itself from the Great Spirit and enters >> into an accelerated frame of reference. The observer’s holographic world >> only appears to come into existence because the observer is in an >> accelerated frame of reference. When that acceleration comes to an end and >> the observer enters into an ultimate freely falling frame of reference, the >> observer no longer has an event horizon, and therefore no longer has a >> holographic screen. In that ultimate freely falling frame of reference, the >> observer’s holographic world disappears from existence from its own point >> of view and nothing is perceived. What happens to the observer? >> >> The answer is the individual consciousness of the observer dissolves back >> into the undivided consciousness of the Great Spirit like a drop of water >> that dissolves back into the ocean. The Great Spirit is an undivided ocean >> of pure undifferentiated consciousness. This dissolution into undivided >> consciousness is the nature of spiritual enlightenment, which is often >> described as a return to the source or a reunion with the source. When the >> individual consciousness of the observer returns to and reunites itself >> with its source, it discovers the true nature of what it is. >> >> Spiritual enlightenment is described as awakening from a dream. The >> computer-generated virtual reality of the observer’s holographic world is >> its dream. When the dreamer awakens from its dream and its dream disappears >> from existence, only the true nature of the dreamer remains. The true >> nature of the dreamer is the undivided ocean of pure undifferentiated >> consciousness of the Great Spirit. The Great Spirit is the source of the >> energy of that acceleration. In that accelerated frame of reference, an >> event horizon arises that becomes the observer’s holographic screen when >> the horizon encodes qubits of information, which is how a quantum computer >> is created that gives rise to the appearance of the observer’s >> computer-generated virtual reality. >> >> Everything an observer can observe in its own holographic world is >> no more real than a dream, which consists of nothing more than the animated >> images of a computer-generated virtual reality projected from its own >> holographic screen to its own point of view at the center of that >> holographic world. The holographic images are all reducible to information >> encoded on the screen, and the energy that animates those images arises >> from the energy of the observer’s own accelerated motion relative to the >> motionless ocean of pure undivided consciousness. When that acceleration >> comes to an end in an ultimate freely falling frame of reference, the dream >> disappears from existence from the observer’s own point of view, and the >> observer’s individual spiritual presence of consciousness, present at that >> point of view, dissolves back into the undivided consciousness of the Great >> Spirit, like a drop of water that dissolves back into the ocean. That >> dissolution is how the dreamer realizes the true nature of what it really >> is. >> >> 24 Awakening is about discovering the true nature of what you are when >> you let go of everything and your whole world disappears from existence. >> That ultimate state of existence can only be understood in terms of >> negation as absolute nothingness, which is the nature of undifferentiated >> consciousness and undivided being. It is this ultimate state of existence >> that expresses energy and encodes information, thereby creating a world to >> be perceived. That world is characterized by forms of information animated >> in the flow of energy, but is no more real than the animated images of a >> computer-generated virtual reality projected from a computer screen to the >> point of view of a presence of consciousness at the center of that world >> that perceives the images.In the process of creating and perceiving that >> world, that presence of consciousness separates itself from its source of >> undifferentiated consciousness and becomes a presence of individual >> consciousness at the center of its own world. There is only an illusion >> that this presence of individual consciousness exists in the world it >> perceives when it emotionally identifies itself with its character in that >> world, which it does through personal bias in its focus of attention on >> that world as it expresses the personally biased emotions of fear and >> desire and the emotions of emotional attachments that emotionally animate >> its character and create feelings of emotional self-limitation to its >> character. When that presence of consciousness detaches itself from the >> world it perceives and stops expressing the personally biased emotions of >> fear and desire, it can only know itself to be the consciousness present at >> the center of the world it perceives. That’s the first level of its >> awakening within the dream. The ultimate level of its awakening from the >> dream is when it returns to its source and dissolves back into >> undifferentiated consciousness. Things only appear to happen in that world >> when energy is expressed and information is encoded. When that expression >> comes to an end, consciousness timelessly exists in its ultimate state of >> undifferentiated consciousness.When the dream comes to an end and energy >> is not expressed, consciousness exists in its ultimate state >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> 25 KR: Noam Chomsky is an eminent American theoretical linguist, >> cognitive scientist and philosopher, who radically changed the arena of >> linguistics by assuming language as a uniquely human, biologically based >> cognitive capacity. 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