Non believers numerical counts on all religions
The numerical count to read all as one makes one go unequivocally
, as center today said WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY RELIGION TO BE DISRESPECTED.
However, I am struck with awe, as to the SHARMA words travelled so fast to
raise from Qatar to UAE all around going to the extent of calling
ammbassadors to express the displeasure. And at the same time, within a
cvouple of days at Kerala open statements had come denigrating the Hindus;
but not even CM Kerala was called to express. Petroleum is so oimportant so
the non-believing act shall speeak as if only one side erred. THE WAY OF
THE WORLD IS SIMPLY THAT; PUT DOWN GOOD ONES; GO ALONG THE BAD; WE SHOW
OUR MIGHT; OTHERS WILL BE QUITE; MAKE SHARMA A SCAPE GOAT; IGNORE KERALA.
We are all not ashamed of ourselves at all. Never we will ever be.
The 1000 namas had arisen from the Rigvedam answering about 10000
years back, the EXISTENCE AND THE MONOVYAKULA OF PEOPLE IN SAPING THINGS AS
THEY WISHED , Saamples of Rig Vedam is as under: ( Brahmam is one but
bhahuvida RV 1 164 46). Ther was an article on astronomy a couiple of days
before in this group , endorsing the unestablished vie of Bsabylone as the
cause, as written by an expert here. That is also answered in in the same
RV 1 164 as the cause of 60 units and why it is not 100.
* सहस्रशीर्षा* *पुरुषः* *सहस्राक्षः* *सहस्रपात्* *।*
*स* *भूमिं* *विश्वतो* *वृत्वात्यतिष्ठद्दशाङुलम्* *॥१॥*
Sahasra-Shiirssaa Purussah Sahasra-Akssah Sahasra-Paat |
Sa Bhuumim Vishvato Vrtva-Atya[i]-Tisstthad-Dasha-Angulam ||1||
Meaning:
1.1: The Purusha (Universal Being) has Thousand Heads, Thousand
Eyes and Thousand Feet (Thousand signifies innumerable which points to the
omnipresence of the Universal Being),
1.2: He envelops the World from all sides (i.e. He pervades each part of
the Creation), and extends beyond in the Ten Directions ( represented by
Ten Fingers ),
Brahmam is unseen and all are brahmam as the total lkength and breadth
the MAYA does exist is NOTHING BUT HIM; 1000 is the expressions of
multiplex complex structure.
2 R V 1 164
The question was raised atleast 10000 years ago; as an ignorant
to learn; WHT WAS THAT ONE?”. अचिकित्वाञ्चिकितुषश्चिदत्र कवीन पर्छामि
विद्मने न विद्वान | वि यस्तस्तम्भ षळ इमा रजांस्यजस्य रूपे किमपि सविदेकम ||6
6. I ask, unknowing, those who know, the sages, as one all ignorant for
sake of knowledge, What was that ONE who in the Unborn's image hath
stablished and fixed firm these worlds' six regions.
The time and space discussed; not from Babylone; but Indian system
of original 60 counts , making a year with 360 days. Later course
corrections applied towards 365 to 366. दवादशारं नहि तज्जराय वर्वर्ति चक्रं
परि दयां रतस्य |आ पुत्रा अग्ने मिथुनासो अत्र सप्त शतानि विंशतिश्च तस्थुः
||11
11. Formed with twelve spokes, by length of time, unweakened, rolls round
the heaven this wheel of during Order. Herein established, joined in pairs
together, seven hundred Sons and twenty stand, O Agni. 360 into 2=720. The
whole course of rig vedam will enlighten the work of the original astronomy
which was adoprted by Bsaabylone in 650 BCE (some say 1500 BCE). Rigvedam
is earlier to7500 BCE).
There was an interpretation by the vested interests that it is the
SUN; but so much of descriptions , go beyond to comprehend the unknown with
the known details. पञ्चपादं पितरं दवादशाक्र्तिं दिव आहुः परे अर्धे पुरीषिणम
|अथेमे अन्य उपरे विचक्षणं सप्तचक्रे षळर आहुरर्पितम ||12
12. They call him in the farther half of heaven the Sire five-footed, of
twelve forms, wealthy in watery store. These others say that he, God with
far-seeing eyes, is mounted on the lower seven-wheeled, six-spoked car.
Brahmam is male or female?. An introspection going on in the 16th
verse. सत्रियः सतीस्तानु मे पुंस आहुः पश्यदक्षण्वान नवि चेतदन्धः |
कविर्यः पुत्रः स ईमा चिकेत यस्ता विजानात स पितुष पितासत ||
16. They told me these were males, though truly females: he who hath eyes
sees this, the blind discerns not. The son who is a sage hath
comprehended: who knows this rightly is his father's father.
The comprehensive soul Jeevatma watching the senses greedily
consuming for the surbvival indicating that that Brahmam is wiotnessing all
the actions sitting on a tree. Long treatises had been written on this
verse 20 by many. दवा सुपर्णा सयुजा सखाया समानं वर्क्षं परि षस्वजाते |
तयोरन्यः पिप्पलं सवाद्वत्त्यनश्नन्नन्यो अभि चाकशीति ||20
20. Two Birds with fair wings, knit with bonds of friendship, in the same
sheltering tree have found a refuge. One of the twain eats the sweet
Fig-tree's fruitage; the other eating not regardeth only.
One who gave the body here the covering is hidden totally But the
manifestations are seen through the sprawling universes and the milkyway
uncovered IS THAT THE BRAHMAN?,य ईं चकार न सो अस्य वेद य ईं ददर्श हिरुगिन
नुतस्मात |स मातुर्योना परिवीतो अन्तर्बहुप्रजा निर्र्तिमा विवेश ||
32. He who hath made him cloth not comprehend him: from him who saw him
surely is he hidden. He, yet enveloped in his Mother's bosom, source of
much life, hath sunk into destruction.
पर्छामि तवा परमन्तं पर्थिव्याः पर्छामि यत्र भुवनस्यनाभिः |
पर्छामि तवा वर्ष्णो अश्वस्य रेतः पर्छामि वाचः परमं वयोम ||34
34. I ask thee of the earth's extremest limit, where is the centre of the
world, I ask thee. I ask thee of the Stallion's seed prolific, I ask of
highest heaven where Speech abideth.
इयं वेदिः परो अन्तः पर्थिव्या अयं यज्ञो भुवनस्य नाभिः |
अयं सोमो वर्ष्णो अश्वस्य रेतो बरह्मायं वाचःपरमं वयोम ||35
35. This altar is the earth's extremest limit; this sacrifice of ours is
the world's centre. The Stallion's seed prolific is the Soma; this Brahman
; The word Brahman is used which is adopted later in all upanishads.
The EXISTENCE IS ONE THE ANSWER;
46. They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni, and he is heavenly
nobly-winged Garutman. To what is One, sages give many a title they call
it Agni, Yama, Matarisvan. EKAM SAT VIPRA VADANTHI BAHUDHAVADANTHI; NOT
TAMIL VADANTHI BUT TRHEY ARE SAYING AS IF A THIRD PARTY VERSION.
इन्द्रं मित्रं वरुणमग्निमाहुरथो स दिव्यो सुपर्णो गरुत्मान् ।
एकं सद्विप्राः बहुधा वदन्ति अग्निं यमं मातरिश्वानमाहुः ॥
“*indram mitram varuNamagnimAhuratho sa divyo suparNo garutmAn *|
*ekam sadviprAh bahudhA vadanti agnim yamam mAtarishvAnamAhuh* ||” -
RV1.164.46
The word ‘*sat*’ (सत्) does not ONLY mean “truth”. It means “*existence*”.
The same meaning is seen in the composite “*sat-cit-Ananda*”
(existence-consciousness-bliss). The *rishi* in deep meditative state
realizes that the innermost reality of everything is this cosmic principle
of pure and absolute existence, consciousness and bliss.
NOW WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG WHEN SOME ONE DOES NOT BELIEVE OR IT IS
1000 VARIETIES IN NAMES AND WORSHIPS. HOWEVER WORDS UTTERE IN ABRAHAMIC
AND THE OTHER CONNECTED WITH THE RECENT KERALA INCIDENT DOES NOT SAY SO AS
R V SAID ABOVE That is our pride. KR IRS 6622
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 10:20, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I am giving a brief summary as I don't want to go into a detailed
> discussion.
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> If you study the Upanishads (from my limited knowledge of them), they all
> talk about "Brahman" only and not about other Gods that we worship now;
> they all came later to cater to people with different tastes so each can
> worship Him in a Form that he finds conducive. It is also easier to
> concentrate on a Name and Form as opposed to an abstract concept like
> Brahman which only the Gnanis are capable of.
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> After Brahman, we started worshipping Indra, Sun God, Rivers, Cows, Trees,
> and others - in general Nature in all its manifestations as a form of
> respect and Gratitude. Because they give sustenance to our lives we started
> worshipping them as anything we worship we will do no harm to. And being
> Grateful is ingrained in our culture.
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> *Gold is one but it manifests in different forms like chains, bangles,
> rings etc but their substratum is ONE that is GOLD.* Many of us call Gold
> in the form it takes like chains, bangles etc, but Gnanis recognize them
> for what they are - GOLD. Like that Brahman is ONE although He may be
> worshipped and recognized in various ways.
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> Another example given is the person is ONE although he may be called
> Grandfather, Father, son, brother, friend etc. depending on who addresses
> him.
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> Lord Krishna also has said that whatever Form we may choose to worship Him
> in, ultimately it all reaches HIM only.
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> *Forms are not as important as the underlying Faith and Devotion is. But
> unfortunately we forget that and fight over Names and Forms. *
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> *There is a Tamizh saying " Harium Haranum Onru, ithu ariyathavan vayile
> mannu" meaning both Hari and Hara (Siva) are one and the same and it is the
> ignorant who see them as different.*
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> N Sekar
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>
> On Monday, June 6, 2022, 05:35:21 AM GMT+4, Rangarajan T.N.C. <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Most intellectuals have become non believers
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> On Monday, 6 June, 2022, 06:46:10 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Sure.
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> Nowadays it is convenient to pretend there never was, nor is, any
> shanmatham or dashaavathaarams. And no sahasranaamams, laghu-sahasranaamams,
> thrishathis, ashtothrams and ashtadashis either for most of our deities.
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> Just one praanam-paramaathma/parashakthi only.
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> And one inscrutable pranavam.
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> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
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> On 6 Jun 2022, at 12:36 AM, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> VERY GOOD ONE
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> On Sunday, 5 June, 2022, 09:35:35 am IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Thanks.
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> That God is ONE is beyond question.
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> Problem arises only because:
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> Abrahamic Religions say the ONE God is THEIR God ONLY and their way is the
> ONLY way to reach Him.
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> whereas
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> Hinduism says God is ONE but you can call Him by ANY name and my way is
> NOT the ONLY way.
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> Unfortunately the Siculars hide or conveniently overlook this simple but
> vital fact and go on repeating that all religions say there is only one God.
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>
> N Sekar
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> On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 06:38:49 AM GMT+4, SRIRAMAJAYAM <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> *Very interesting & meaningful msg :If :A = 1 ; B = 2 ; C = 3 ; D = 4 ;E
> = 5 ; F = 6 ; G = 7 ; H = 8 ;I = 9 ; J = 10 ; K = 11 ; L = 12 ;M = 13 ; N =
> 14 ; O = 15 ; P = 16 ;Q = 17 ; R = 18 ; S = 19 ; T = 20 ;U = 21 ; V = 22 ;
> W = 23 ; X =24 ;Y = 25 ; Z = 26;Then,*
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> *S h r e e K r i s h n a19+8+18+5+5+11+18+9+19+8+14+1= 135= 1+3+5 = 9 🙏*
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> *MuslimM o h a m m e d13+15+8+1+13+13+5+4= 72= 7+2 = 9 🤲*
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> *JainM a h a v i r13+1+8+1+22+9+18= 72= 7+2= 9🙏Sikh*
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> *G u r u N a n a k7+21+18+21+14+1+14+1+11= 108= 1+0+8 = 9🙏ParsiZ a r a t
> h u s t r a26+1+18+1+20+8+21+19+20+18+1= 153= 1+5+3 = 9🙏Buddhist*
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> *G a u t a m7+1+21+20+1+13*
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> *E s a M e s s i a h5+19+1+13+5+19+19+9+1+8= 999+9 =181+8 = 9🤲Each one
> ends with number 9THAT IS NATURE'S CREATION TO SHOW THAT GOD IS ONE
> !!! Whoever created this msg's great msg ENGLISH 26 ALPHABETS CONVEY THIS
> CLEARLY.Always Be Cool.Download Ego with Friends & Family.Give up Hurting
> Individuals.Just Keep Loving Mankind.Never Omit Prayers.Quietly Remember
> god.Speak Truth.Use Valid Words.X press Your Zeal…*
> *........ *
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> *As recd... *
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