Thanks Sri Y M

Re:  the last para on your Mail, I  understand what you want secularism "
must mean".

But secularism means separation of the church and the State ( Govt) and is
a western concept.

Although we had Rishis advising our kings ( Sage Vashishta for example), we
never had the problem of the church and state concept.

Kings in England used to say "We" and not "I" as "we meant God and I".
Churches usually played a great role in the governance and that's why the
question of separation of the
Church and state arose there. Western countries call themselves secular but
in effect they are essentially  Christian democracies, and white Caucasian
democracies, if I may add.

Of course, what we have in dear Bharat is not secularism but sick     and
rotten  " sicularism". Even the Modi govt is guilty of that  although not
on the grand scale of the Congis.

N Sekar

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 3:26 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Secularism is tolerance against all people of all religions. It is showing
> the broad mindedness of the majority. It is treating everyone as equal. It
> is a gesture. That does not mean the minority can far exceed the rights and
> fulfill their duties. It is freedom but shall not be misused. Secularism is
> not a demand; secularism is not a right to enforce by law alone as evidence
> is interpretable. "I like my neighbor" does not cause my neighbor to throw
> their dirt in my compound. Secularism is mutual; religious freedom does not
> mean by force or by corrupt methods. Secularism is feeling the ADVAITHAM;
> but where the duality alone is known, secularism is not meaning ful except
> in the dictionary. Secularism is not just a study; secularism is the right
> to say HE is my GOD; it is not telling HE IS THE ONLY GOD FOR ALL. Rights
> and duties are higher for the minority. IF WAR IS INEVITABLE AND FORCED ON
> US, WE SHALL WAGE A WAR THAT IS SECULARISM AND THE BHAGAVAT GITA
> MAHABHARATHAM. KR IRS 1211222
>
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 at 08:56, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Mar*Connecting Nature’s Predication to Internal Hormonal Communication
>>
>> Nature is the grand Flow of continuous predication. Catching a bit of
>> predication with a subject, and relating it to space-time or simply verb
>> and constructing sentence, is the living of life. The process of relating
>> subjects to the predication flow is by feeling. You discover a subject; you
>> understand the subject as predicate and relate the predication to the
>> space-time or verb, so that the predication does not vanish into Grand
>> Ocean of nature’s predication.
>>
>> Before the Technological Holocaust, where the very grand flow of
>> predication directly into the internal hormonal communication, was killed,
>> by substituting every aspect of nature’s participation with you, with a
>> machine, you lived as nature, where understanding was revelation and
>> enlightenment, which means the grand electromagnetic photon-synthesization
>> in you, or your participation in the flow of the cosmos. Continuous
>> enlightenment through feeling via breathing was the life of the ordinary
>> man, in the ordinary day today life, which was not commercial business of
>> life.
>>
>> Mankind’s yearning for predication crystallized as religions. Every
>> religion started with noble missions.
>>
>> Prophet Mohammad went into deep nature, felt the grand flow of
>> predication, which simply was the enchanting feeling of revelation after
>> revelation from nature, the flow that simply cannot be and shall not be
>> defined, as definition reduces the grandeur. The revelations are completely
>> abstract and formless. One strives for the revelation via namaj or feeling.
>>
>> In the Roman Empire many slaves were nailed to wooden cross and thus
>> nailed they were lined up on the highway. Jesus Christ was one such. He
>> felt intensely the need for love, defined God as freedom and love and
>> expressed his definiteness that he as the offshoot of God or Christ will
>> return to strive for love.
>>
>> In the case of Hinduism, there is not one person to be traced say as a
>> Prophet. It is the flow of revelations from hundreds and hundreds of Sages,
>> who practiced breathing, smelling and sensing and by teaming up with
>> nature. Hinduism evolved for hundreds of years, and the evolution happened
>> not only in the Indian Sub Continent, but covered all the islands of SE
>> Asia, the entire central Asia, including the present Afghanistan,
>> interacting with the thought centers of Greece, ultimately creating the
>> Sage approach of learning or the Holistic approach far better than today’s
>> Cartesian or mechanical approach, called the scientific approach. Many
>> Revelation flows sprouted in the great Himalayas, making them the mountain
>> ranges of revelations and enlightenment. The Himalayas put one in the great
>> spell of nature where one’s mind enters revelation that lands one in bliss.
>>
>> The Sacred Guru Granth Saheb is a confluence of all revelations plus more.
>>
>> I cannot write about every religion, because I do not have knowledge.
>>
>> Secularism must mean the study of all religions and not giving freedom to
>> all religions so that they can indulge in Darwinian fighting.
>>
>> YM
>>
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