Mr Sekar's idea of a story is well made out revealing HIS will alone prevails. I wondered , if so, why , people are so skirmish on this earth, knowing full well about HIS will? Its Human freewill operated in the negative directions. Then that also must be HIS will. Then, if everything is totally predetermined, as HIS will, why is Karma acting on rebirths? Or why Papa and Punya on specific actions? Then why did HE say karmanye vadhikaraste ma palashu? Why would one have to do action in action and inaction in action? So is there a grazing field tied to a rope? In B g Lord says that in 2 places, 1 I am the opening , the middle and the end & 2 actions are justified by the opening, middle and at the end. It struck me that we are born, we are living and we die. That is the species opening, Middle and End, while HIS is creation, maintenance choreography and the destruction. In that game, GOD never played the dice; HE never said do like this or like that; Freewill is allowed as pre-determined; it is confusing; you are now reading and typing in your laptop; you have the tools which you purchased; "YOUR TYPING AND PURCHASE" are free will but predetermined; the maya appearances of the freewill is also predetermined only; however , they are so programmed that as in chess, if you move the king pawn the GOD's predetermined move is knight king3 ; if you moved the Queen pawn to 4, HIS predetermined move is , Pawnking4 for a sacrifice or pawn queen 4 ; SOFTWARE EMBEDDED ALREADY,WITHIN WHICH FREE WILL IS ALLOWED. Freewill arises out of one's mind; and that mind control is the essence of life; and when you choose the right path you are on a preprogrammed right result and if not, on the wrong side. Yes without HIM even an atom cannot take a step; but an atom knows what to do; create electricity as Tesla from space or destroy Nakasaki. Thus the value of Karma arises and predetermined the actions to follow; ibn this Leela, as said in B G, HE IS THE DOER AND THE DEATH. But preprogrammed, multi choice paper. Taking and leaving are here. HE does not play any dice. HE never granted any boon; HE never appeared ; HE never either promised or cheated by playing PUN od "SA". PUN was our karma. Independence is guarded by chains. Developments are restricted by conditions. It is complicated and hence many rishis spoke about it all, in so many words, in the negative sense phrases, in the upanishads. THANAKKU UVAMAI ILLADHAN, THAL SERA, AVAN THAAL VANAKI AVANARULAL" THERE IS NONE TO EXCEED HIM, IF ANY ONE NEED TO BE WITHIN hiM, HE HAS TO BLESS YOU TO ATTAIN IT; EVEN TO WORSHIP WE NEED HIS BLESSINGS. Freewill varum aana varaadhu. KR IRS 15423
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 at 04:14 Subject: [iyer123] Fwd To: Iyer <[email protected]> If we think we are smart, God proves He is smarter. There are stories in our scriptures where God tells that nobody can get a Boon for immortality and that's why when Hiranyakasipu asked for so many methods, weapons by which he will not die, God took the Avatar of Nrusimha and killed him by a totally new and different route.People know this story. Nobody can be immortal. This fwd explains how God finds a way to ensure His Will prevails even while He grants what he prayed for, the interpretation differs. He ensures His Will prevails ultimately. His Leela. N Sekar Fwd: ஒரு ஊர்ல குப்புசாமின்னு ஒருத்தன் இருந்தானாம். அவனுக்கு சாவே வரக்கூடாதுன்னு ரொம்ப காலமா கடவுளை வேண்டி தவம் இருந்தானாம். ஒரு நாள் கடவுள் நேர்ல வந்து “பக்தா என்ன வரம் வேண்டும்?, கேள்” அப்படின்னு கேட்டாராம். குப்புசாமியும் ரொம்ப நேரம் யோசிச்சுட்டு “கடவுளே, எனக்கு எப்பவும் சாவே வரக்கூடாது”னு கேட்டானாம். கடவுள் கொஞ்ச நேரம் யோசிச்சுட்டு “இது இயலாத காரியம். இருந்தாலும் நீ புரிந்த கடும் தவத்திற்காக நீ வேண்டிய படி நடக்கட்டும்!"னு சொல்லிட்டு கடவுள் மறைஞ்சுட்டாராம். குப்புசாமிக்கோ தல கால் புரியல. சந்தோஷத்துல துள்ளிக் குதிச்சு, வீட்டுக்குப் போய்ட்டு இருந்தானாம். வழியில, பெரியவர் ஒருத்தர் குப்புசாமி கிட்ட வந்து “உம் பேரு என்னப்பா?"னு கேட்டாராம். அதுக்கு குப்புசாமி “குப்புமி”னு சொன்னானாம். தப்பா சொல்லிட்டமேனு திரும்பவும் சொல்ல, மறுபடியும் "குப்புமி"னு சொன்னானாம். எத்தன தடவ சொன்னாலும், "குப்புமி"னு தான் அவன் வாய்ல வந்துச்சாம்! பாவம் கடைசி வரைக்கும் அவனுக்கு *சா* வே வரலையாம்! இதையெல்லாம் மறஞ்சிருந்து பாத்துட்டு இருந்த கடவுள் சொன்னாராம்..... *"வரம் கேக்குற உனக்கே இத்தன கொழுப்புனா, குடுக்குற எனக்கு எவ்ளோ இருக்கும்!"* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iyer123" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1221714472.2933546.1681470865430%40mail.yahoo.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1221714472.2933546.1681470865430%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZorYOEeq_CXU81Q5ra%3Dh%2BgkyZuUa25aXvX7iq4XR-iWWSg%40mail.gmail.com.
