A member tries to define it through SriRavi. The contradiction is there are
varieties of definitions; there ends the definition; this one is the
opinion of Ravi; Opinions are like our discussions; to forgive an error is
divine; to forgive the nation's traitor is non-divine.
Kshama (Sanskrit: क्षमा, romanized: kṣamā) is a Sanskrit word that relates
to the acts of patience, releasing time and functioning in the now.
Macdonell defines it as: "patience, forbearance, indulgence (towards...)".
Kshama also indicates extreme patience and a capacity to forgive and forget.
buddhir jnanam asammohah kshama satyam damah shamah
sukham duhkham bhavo ’bhavo bhayam chabhayameva cha
ahinsa samata tushtis tapo danam yasho ’yashah
bhavanti bhava bhutanam matta eva prithag-vidhah  B G 10 4  True qualities
arise from Brahmam and being sattvic. *BG 10.4-5*: From Me alone arise the
varieties of qualities in humans, such as intellect, knowledge, clarity of
thought, forgiveness, truthfulness, control over the senses and mind, joy
and sorrow, birth and death, fear and courage, non-violence, equanimity,
contentment, austerity, charity, fame, and infamy.
    mrityuh sarva-harash chaham udbhavash cha bhavishyatam kirtih shrir vak
cha narinam smritir medha dhritih kshama   *BG 10.34*: I am the
all-devouring death, and I am the origin of those things that are yet to
be. Amongst feminine qualities I am fame, prosperity, fine speech, memory,
intelligence, courage, and forgiveness.  B G says "NARINAM '' womanish;TO
FORGIVE IS TO BE FEMININE.
      sakheti matva prasabham yad uktamhe krishna he yadava he sakheti ajanata
mahimanam tavedam maya pramadat pranayena vapi yach chavahasartham
asat-krito ’si vihara-shayyasana-bhojaneshu eko ’tha vapy achyuta
tat-samaksham tat kshamaye tvam aham aprameyam *BG 11.41-42*: Thinking of
You as my friend, I presumptuously addressed You as, “O Krishna,” “O
Yadav,” “O my dear Friend.” I was ignorant of Your majesty, showing
negligence and undue affection. And if, jestfully, I treated You with
disrespect, while playing, resting, sitting, eating, when alone, or before
others—for all that I crave forgiveness. hERE ONE SHALL SEEK THE
FORGIVENESS AND SO THE OTHER SHALL FORGIVE.
       adveshta sarva-bhutanam maitrah karuna eva cha nirmamo nirahankarah
sama-duhkha-sukhah kshami santushtah satatam yogi yatatma
dridha-nishchayah mayy
arpita-mano-buddhir yo mad-bhaktah sa me priyah *BG 12.13-14*: Those
devotees are very dear to Me who are free from malice toward all living
beings, who are friendly, and compassionate. They are free from attachment
to possessions and egotism, equi-poised in happiness and distress, and
ever-forgiving. They are ever-content, steadily united with Me in devotion,
self-controlled, of firm resolve, and dedicated to Me in mind and
intellect.  WHO ARE FREE FROM MALICE FRIENDLY AND COMPASSIONATE alone
deserve for the equi-poised qualities.
      shri-bhagavan uvacha  abhayam sattva-sanshuddhir
jnana-yoga-vyavasthitih danam damash cha yajnash cha svadhyayas tapa
arjavam ahimsa satyam akrodhas tyagah shantir apaishunam daya bhuteshv
aloluptvam mardavam hrir achapalam  tejah kshama dhritih shaucham adroho
nati-manita bhavanti sampadam daivim abhijatasya bharata *BG 16.1-3*: The
Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly
virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind,
steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses,
sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness;
non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness,
restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence
of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor,
forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and
absence of vanity.  SAINTLY VIRTUES ARE MANY AND ONE IS FORGIVENESS;
SAINTLY WILL ATTIRE THAT QUALITY.
      shamo damas tapah shaucham kshantir arjavam eva chajnanam vijnanam
astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam *BG 18.42*: Tranquility, restraint,
austerity, purity, patience, integrity, knowledge, wisdom, and belief in a
hereafter—these are the intrinsic qualities of work for Brahmins.  The pure
qualities are brahminic, one who understood the Brahman. Hence forgiveness
is a quality to be applied over one who deserves it.
       Bharathi sang , bless even the enemy (pagaivanukku arulvao nannenje)
provided there is a deserving characteristic and does not possess
cowardice. "Porayudamai ' chapter in thirukkural speaks a lot about it yet
every kural defines the quality of it where it shall be exposed.  K Rajaram
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On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 10:07 PM 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
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> On Monday, 28 August, 2023 at 10:58:37 am IST, venkat giri <
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> *What is the true meaning of forgive?*
> *Forgiveness means different things to different people. But in general,
> it involves an intentional decision to let go of resentment and anger. The
> act that hurt or offended you might always be with you. But working on
> forgiveness can lessen that act's grip on you.*
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> On Monday, 28 August, 2023 at 07:23:19 am IST, Jambunathan Iyer <
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> *Are you aware that it is better to forgive your antagonist and yourself
> for your negative reaction? Are you also aware that forgiving your
> antagonist does not mean that you must let that person back into your life?*
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> *Any Answers to the above is a welcome word of advice for me. Please
> share.*
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