wHAT KIND OF ILLITERACY IS POSSESSED BY nARYANA IS EVIDENT FROM HIS EXCLUSIVE EMAILS ONLY TO IYER WHERE WITHIN A SMALL MUD FEELS SAFE; i WRITE SO MANY VEDA QUOTES TO DISPROVE HIS FALLACIES; BUT HE WRITES BACK BY ONLY DENIAL AND AWKWARDA BUSE WITH JINGCHAS OF HIS COUPLES TOGETHER, BUT NEVER EVER IN 2 DECADES DID PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCES FOR HIS AUTHORITY. Because he is so irritated that he is pushed down from his dramatic altar. Show me your evidence as I do .Don't deny or assert that you are right. Those dhalls will not be cooked food. The LNSarama writes more nonsense as a dmk prone party member loyal to Karunanidhi and does not write anything. If Rahul spikes Modi, Modi does not lose; but Rahul's illiteracy is exposed. You shall write with evidence establishing your factors and not by assertions as People migrated from AZfrica because their DNA match with others which is illegitimate logic. Show your strength in your write up; write of KYV originally as your stupis sishya wants; how will you write your own KYV?. I do not understand. By evidence I mean when you say this came only from that , you have to open the facts and not verses found in another which does not prove in whatsoever manner, it was copied asone alleged might be only the copyist. So let Narayanasamy show this earth before he departs at least some of his nomadic theory in his butler English without abuses in straightforward texts. His I am going to school as I am going to school is not the meaning of vedam but his translation of the blabberings of his samchas. The meaning for example purusha had eight heads is a laughable meaning and not even the tip of the iceberg. People who do not know anything may accept but not those who are at some level. Thank you Narayana laxmi and G and any more if on that side. Also I hereby make it known that whosoever who does not need my email may send me personally so that that will be stopped. I will never be the loser. Thank you KR IRS 25 9 23 DO NOT BECOME A LAUGHING STOCK BY MAKING ME FUN
On Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 07:50, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear folks > > Yet once again KR IRS 24 9 23 alias Rajaram K alias iraachaa iramoo alias > Cockroachmoorthy alias krakenlake alias many other identities displays his > adolescent immaturity by merely copying what I wrote, though he does not > understand one word due to his bankruptcy of morals, absence of integrity, > lack of even pre-primary education, complete isolation from reality, > advanced irreversible senility, progressive incurable insanity, paucity of > intelligence, absence of decent upbringing, undeveloped and damaged > intellect and severely diseased brain -- all of which call for urgent > incarceration in a mental asylum and confinement in isolation in a > strait-jacket. > > *His flawed thesis has always been that r'g-vedam is somehow or other > superior to and elder to yajur-vedam (to which latter he claims to > belong). * > > *But when challenged with sparkling truths to the contrary, the weirdo > merely runs and hides, and resorts to abuse and verbal fisticuffs, > irrelevancies, and obfuscation.* > > *The above is a good example of his ranting and raving without accepting > or responding to my challenges.* > > He needs to squarely face the truth and admit that he knows nothing about > either r'g-vedam or about yajur-vedam. Hence his persistent diatribes. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 3:41 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> TB, RV, YV, VR and ignoramus Naragal Narayana 3 (contd)24 9 23 KR IRS >> >> Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> KR Today Narayana admitted that he does not know and wants to be >> taught accepting I am better than him; this is akin ti Thatha who is >> ignorant, does not wish to accept it before the grandchildren and asking >> them as,” let me check whether you know it and later I will tell >> you-method”. This is not the first time; every time he will only demand to >> be taught; he will write only a restrictive burler English but will >> criticise others; the bent-up minds of the ignorant is always that level. I >> never said [AS HE IS CHEATING A FEW, THAT HE IS ABOVE Vyasa], I know all as >> I know that I know I know and trying to know; so dependent on ancient >> vyasas and the current scholars. But NETI types are only assertive; after >> reading the translation ,2 or 3 lines can be transcribed as if own; that is >> not attributions; the Vedas have the hidden meanings and error-prone >> meanings go against those are already in the existence. That alone is >> pointed out. He did a lot of blunders and still strongly asserting which >> has no value. It is immaterial for me. I am waiting for aall his >> projections to expose what is he. Thank you KR IRS 24 9 23 >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> What he wrote today below: Dear folks Madman Rajaram K alias KR ex-IRS >> 23 9 23 (CONTD FROM 21923), at the acme of his insanity, tries to argue >> that the braahmanas, the upanishads, and the aaranyakaas are mere >> extensions or appendices of the samhithaas.What the supreme blind, deaf, >> and dumb idiot, who has never attended or studied anything at school, >> whether normal academic of Veda-class, and is not at all familiar with >> human and animal physiology, never knew and does not even now know is that >> the heart, the lungs, the liver, and the kidneys are not "mere extensions >> or appendices" of the brain and the head. The whole body is a continuous >> and integrated single entity.And so are our vedams. Ergo, if you have >> read, or are familiar only with, the samhitha, you do not know your vedam. >> You are arguing out of sheer ignorance and untrammelled idiocy.S >> Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> *kethum krunvannakethave pesho maryaa apeshase l* >> >> *samudbhi rajaayathaaha ll*(R V I, 1,6.11)*lindramve vishyathaspari >> havaamahe janebhyaha l* >> >> *asmaakamasthu kevalaha ll *(R V I, 1,7,14) >> >> *agnim bhootham vruneemahe hothaaram vishvavedasam l* >> >> *asya yajnyasya sukrathum ll*(R V I, 1,12,22) >> >> *idam vishnu vichakrame thredhaanibhadhe padam l* >> >> *samulhamasyapaagum surey ll*(R V I, 2,22,7) >> >> *thaththvaayaami brahmano vanda yadaaschaayasthe yajamaanonhavirbhihi >> lahedamaano varuneha bodi udagum samaana aayush pramoshi ll*(R V I, 2, >> 24, 15) >> >> My comments:-Since Rajaram K alias KR -ex-IRS 24 9 23 claims >> familiarity with both r'g-vedam and yajur vedam, plus proficiency in >> English, however broken and gutter-picked, he can translate and cross-refer >> the above r'g-veda manthrams himself.If he has further doubts or >> misgivings, I am prepared to quote examples ad nauseam from r'g-vedam of >> more and more manthrams filched from yajur-vedam.S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> The third part is the continuation of WHAT IS IN TAITRIYA >> BRAHAMANA CONTINUING WITH THE AUTHORITY: >> >> Kaukili (, Kaukila or Kaukila) 'Sautramani is not a Soma sacrifice, >> but is classified by the Sutras as a Havir-yajna, though its chief >> characteristic in its form as recorded is the offering of Surā an >> ayurvedic liquid badly interpreted by some as liquor which is not. It has >> two distinct forms, the Kaukili, which is an independent offering, the >> other the Carakā, an offering which forms part of another offering, as >> the Rājasūya [performed by ancient kings of India] and the Agnicayana >> [building of a Fire-Altar]...[KR: building designed fire alter comprised >> algebraically and mathematically with the golden ratio, was/is perplexed >> subject; the designing is the basics of the YAJURVEDAM MAINLY; MATRAS WERE >> TAKEN FROM THE Rig veda RICS; the four purohits assigned as described >> byhearted the Rics and other mantras as a music from the SAMA VEDAM; so >> only SAYANA commentary on RIGVEDAM, aligned the vedas as Rig the earliest >> gave out by the BRAHMAM as ONLY VEDA. ] The differences between the two >> forms are of detail: thus the Kaukili is marked by the singing by the >> Brahman of certain Sāmans [hymns]. [ RIC IS VERSE; SAMAN IS MUSICAL >> HYMNS] The use of the Surā is accompanied by offerings of animals, to Indra >> a bull, to Sarasvati a sheep, and to the Ashvins a goat'.( KR Apart from >> various ancient commentators, Maha Periyava had written about the animal >> sacrifice; chapters in DEIVATHI KURAL MAY BE REFEERED TO] 'The Vedic >> Sautramani >> belongs chiefly to Indra, taking its name from his epithet Satraman, >> 'good protector'. The Vedic rite is, however, rather complex; while Indra >> is the principal recipient, deities of the realm of fertility and fecundity >> [reproduction] figure prominently'. >> >> KR: Soutramani yagam to Indra is descried in detail in the brahamana >> which was written explained by the west and some Islamic people also as a >> wine, whore, animal sacrificed yagna as shown here as extracted: >> >> “Sautrāmaṇī (सौत्रामणी) refers to a Vedic sacrifice involving the use of >> wine, and is mentioned in the Naiṣadha-carita 17.182.—Sautrāmaṇī is so >> called because one of the Gods invoked in this sacrifice is Sutrāman or >> Indra. The wine is mixed with sprouts of barley, rice and other herbs, >> and addressed thus—“*aśvibhyāṃ pacyasva sarasvatyai pacyasvendrāya >> sutrāmṇe pacyasva*”. Flour made from various plums is one of the >> oblations offered in this rite, and a bull is sacrificed in honour of >> Indra. >> >> A mare is prescribed as the Dakṣiṇā of Sautrāmaṇī (Taittirīyasaṃhitā, >> Ānandāśrama edition, 1.8.21 and Sāyaṇa thereon). >> >> The wine is drunk with the following mantra:*yamaśvinā namucāvāsure >> dadhi sarasvatyasunodindriyāya* |*imaṃ taṃ śukraṃ madhumantaminduṃ somaṃ >> rājānamiha bhakṣayāmi* ||(Śāṃkhāyanaśrautasūtra 15.15) >> >> Māṭharavṛtti on Sāṃkhyakārikā (2) refers to the drinking of wine in the >> Sautrāmaṇī sacrifice and to the fact that the priests engage in free >> conversation with a whore. >> >> Maha periyava went in depth to explain what exactly is that. >> Herbal drink as seen ferom the above Sanskrit words were twisted by >> interpreting the words MADHU AND SOMAM as differently. Similarly the >> worship of animals for which Indra was extoled as the king were offered in >> terms of FLOUR but were twisted as sacrifice of the animals by the west >> and Islamic authors. >> >> Tortoise Avatar :The Devas said they want immortality. They said >> that Vaya (the bird Garuda) is the giver (or bringer) of Amrita. The bird >> doing the task of bringing the Amrita went back to Heaven.— Taittiriya >> Brahmana (Volume 2), , Ashtaka 2, Prapathaka 2, Anuvaka 5, Khandika 2 Kurma >> is most commonly associated in the Itihāsa (epics) and Puranas with the >> legend of the churning of the Ocean of Milk, referred to as the Samudra >> manthan. The ocean is churned with a mountain on the back of the Tortoise >> avatar to acquire the nectar of immortality called Amrita for the gods, led >> by Indra. From the Mahabharata: The gods then went to the king of tortoises >> ['Kurma-raja'] and said to him, 'O Tortoise-king, thou wilt have to hold >> the mountain on thy back!' The Tortoise-king agreed, and Indra contrived to >> place the mountain on the former's back. And the gods and the Asuras made >> of Mandara [Mountain] a churning staff and Vasuki the cord, and set about >> churning the deep for amrita... — Mahabharata (translated by Kisari >> Mohan Ganguli, 1883–1896), Book 1, Astika Parva, Chapter XVIII >> >> Garuda is also frequently mentioned in respect to Kurma and the >> Samudra manthan legend. For example, in the Mahabharata (1.29–31) Garuda >> seeks the Amrita produced by the churning of the ocean to free himself and >> his mother from slavery. In the Bhagavata Purana (Canto 8, Chapter 6), >> Krishna carries the Mandara mountain on the back of Garuda to the Ocean of >> Milk. The tortoise (kūrma or kurmo) is also mentioned in 2.4.3.6: asyá >> kurmo harivo medínaṃ tvā Notably, 2.8.2.23 states that a mountain >> represents ignorance, and 2.4.6.21 states: The wise (amūra) Devas who win >> all the worlds (kshetra) do the act of churning (manthan) the Vaishvānara >> to release the power of immortality (amṛta). — Taittiriya Brahmana >> (Volume 2), , Ashtaka 2, Prapathaka 4, Anuvaka 6, Khandika 21 >> >> Duties of kingship: Impel the King to take care of the citizens just >> like a father. Impel the king to extend his kingdom (varimanam). When the >> king extends his kingdom helping all, the Deva Savita regards him with many >> animals and all types of help. Let the king take care of all the animals >> well, moving amidst them. When the king who has done the Rajasuya [rite] >> punishes only the bad persons appropriately, and rewards the good men, he >> is learning well the duties of a good king. — Taittiriya Brahmana >> (Volume 2 Ashtaka 2, Prapathaka 7, Anuvaka 15, Khandikas 2–3[38] >> >> Cutting down trees May Varuna free us from the sins of cutting [down] >> valuable trees. As effectively as a bath washes off the sins done by me in >> handling the residues of the butter used in Yajna. — Taittiriya Brahmana >> (Volume 2), translated by R.L. Kashyap (2017), Ashtaka 2, Prapathaka 6, >> Anuvaka 6, Khandika 8. >> >> Rajendra lala an erudite states that the 'first subject treated of >> in the third kanda [ashṭaka, 'book'] are the Constellations, some of which >> are auspicious and others the contrary. Then we have the rites >> appropriate during the wane and waxing of the moon, Darsa paurnamasa, as >> well as on the full moon and the new moon. The fourth chapter treats of >> human sacrifices, [PURUSHAMEDHA YAGNAM WRONGLY DESCRIBED BY THE WEST AS >> HUMAN SACRIFICE WHICH IS NOT ,WHICH WILL BE NARRATED LATER] and then of a >> number of minor rites with special prayers. Then follow the mantras >> appropriate for the sacrifice of special animals. This is followed by a >> chapter on expiations and defects in the observance and performance of >> ceremonies. The eighth and ninth [prapāṭhakas, 'chapters'] are devoted to >> the horse sacrifice,[Ashwametha yagnam will be narrated later KR ] >> which is the grandest ceremony enjoined on householders, especially >> appropriate for kings, and involves a number of rites and ceremonies (which >> are fully detailed in the table of contents) as also a number of ovations >> of different kinds'. >> >> Ashṭaka 3 (from where the purusha heads were written as the >> meaning by Narayanasamy in the earliest abuse, refer to part 1, is not >> correct; Vedas do not contradict. Sahasra seersha purusha cannot contradict >> eight heads. 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