Sir, Your responses are always top brow beyond the understanding of persons like me whose level is comparatively very low.But Thank You. YM
On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 10:37 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: > SANATHANA AND MORE > > सर्वेऽप्य् एते यज्ञ-विदो यज्ञ-क्षपित-कल्मषाः । > यज्ञ-शिष्टामृत-भुजो यान्ति ब्रह्म सनातनम् ॥ ३० ॥ > > *sarve'py ete yajña-vido yajña-kṣapita-kalmaṣāḥ *| > *yajña-śiṣṭāmṛta-bhujo yānti brahma *sanātanam || 30 ||4 B G > > *yajña-vidaḥ*–who are conversant with the principle of sacrifice; > *yajña*–through > sacrifice; *kṣapita*–cleansed; *kalmaṣāḥ*–of sins; *yajña-śiṣṭa*–remnants > of sacrifice; *amṛta-bhujaḥ*–they enjoy the immortal; *yānti*–they > attain; *brahma*–spirit; *sanātanam*–eternal. > > All those who know the principle of sacrifice become free from sin by > performing it. Having tasted the nectarean remnants of sacrifice, they > attain the eternal *brahma > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahma#vaishnavism>*n, the stage of > transcendence. > > > > बीजं मां सर्व-भूतानां विद्धि पार्थ सनातनम् । > बुद्धिर् बुद्धिमताम् अस्मि तेजस् तेजस्विनाम् अहम् ॥ १० ॥ > > bījaṃ māṃ sarva-bhūtānāṃ viddhi pārtha sanātanam | > buddhir buddhimatām asmi tejas tejasvinām aham || 10 ||7 BG > > *bījam*–cause; *mām*–Me;* sarva-bhūtānām*–for all living beings; *viddhi*– > know; *pārtha*–O son of Pṛthā; *sanātanam*–the eternal; *buddhiḥ*–the > intelligence; *buddhimatām*–of the intelligent; *asmi*–am; *tejaḥ*– > prowess; *tejasvinām*–of the powerful; *aham*–I. > > O Pārtha <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/partha#vaishnavism>, know > Me to be the eternal cause of all beings. I am the intelligence of the > intelligent, and the prowess of the powerful. > > > > त्वम् अक्षरं परमं वेदितव्यं त्वम् अस्य विश्वस्य परं निधानम् । > त्वम् अव्ययः शाश्वत-धर्म-गोप्ता सनातनस् त्वं पुरुषो मतो मे ॥ १८ ॥ > > tvam akṣaraṃ// paramaṃ// veditavyaṃ tvam// asya viśvasya paraṃ nidhānam |// > tvam avyayaḥ// śāśvata-dharma-goptā //sanātanas tvaṃ// puruṣo mato me || 18 > ||11 BG > > *tvam*–You; *akṣaram*–*brahma* (Viṣṇu);* paramam*–the supreme; > *veditavyam*–worthy to be known (by liberated souls); *tvam*–You; *asya*–of > this; *viśvasya*–universe; *param*–the supreme; *nidhānam*–resting place, > or shelter;*tvam*–You; *avyayaḥ*–the indestructible; *śāśvata-dharma*–of > *sanātana*-*dharma*; *goptā*–protector; *sanātanaḥ*–primeval and eternal; > *tvam*–You; *puruṣaḥ*–person; *mataḥ*–opinion; *me*–my. > > You are Parabrahma > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/parabrahma#vaishnavism>, the > supreme knowable object for all liberated persons. You are the supreme > resting place of this universe. You are indestructible, the protector of > the eternal religion and the primeval eternal Person. This is my opinion. > > KR The 3 B G verses would tell all of what is sanathana; eternal or > imperishable or long lasting etc attributions are ONLY GIVEN TO ONE > BRAHMAM. Not to anything else. (so what Udayanidhi spoke revealed his > avivekam; where sanathana denoted only Brahminism and does not refer to all > other Hindus, he faltered) One who practices the discipline is only a > disciplinarian and he is not the discipline; one who practices the > sanathana is only a sanatani; then sanathana is the brahmam so eternal, > imperishable and cannot be seen, heard or felt so easily. Upanishad extol > the brahmam in different perspective. Thus sanatani is one who is trying to > follow and get at the Santana the brahmam. Then if that form of adoption is > one route, then where can be the divisions among the brahmins only and the > rest? Many think it is ought to define the sanathana; yes because how can > you define the GOD? Upanishads show the failure of the learned so said in > different formats. > > The term “Ideology”, as Fowler’s dictionary indicates, is a natural > result of the decline of religious faith in this modern age. We hesitate to > accept anything that has an association with religion, faith or creed; > hence our preference to the politico-social systems, like socialism, > communism or fascism (dravidism) which excite in us a quasi-religious > enthusiasm or suggest striving for a secular or humanistic ideal. > > Another reason for aversion to religion-based ideologies or faiths > is the historical record showing a constant exploitation, military > aggression, group hatred and rivalries in the name of religion, causing > endless misery to the common man. Each faith has its own creed, dogma, > mythology <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mythology#history> and > rituals which are different and sometimes diametrically opposite to those > of other faiths. Having no common ground or unity underlying these > diversified faiths, the followers extol their own and remain alienated > with others. Very often they try to impose their ideologies on others > resulting in friction, proselytization, strife, battle and war. These > conflicts or “battle for ideologies” on the religious field become > detestable to the modern mind. > > But Hinduism > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/hinduism#history>, (poorhamadha > poornamidham) or more properly the Sanatana Dharma > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/dharma#history>, (wholesome) > developed altogether a different ideology based on universal truths > arisen from the depth of consciousness of the Rishis > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/rishi#history> of old. Knowledge > can be acquired in three ways: one, by direct perception through senses; > two, by intellectual faculty or reasoning: and three, through intuition or > spiritual revelation which is considered as the highest type of knowledge. > The Sanatana Dharma has emerged out of these spiritual revelations of the > Rishis. {sanatanis] It rests on certain eternal truths or principles and > is not built upon historical characters unlike Christianity, Mohammedanism > or other faiths.(It means that the unknown brahmam is superior to all > beyond the Christ and Allah and Mohamad or any other faith like nudism > Jainism etc) The Vedas <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/veda#history> > containing > eternal truths of the Rishis, are often called *Apaurusheya,* The > fundamental universal principles of Sanatana Dharma are: > > (i) All beings are born of *Brahman > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahman#history>,* (aham Beeja > above BG) after being born, live in *Brahman* and finally enter into > *Brahman* after dissolution. (Brahman is the Absolute or the supreme > Reality <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/supreme-reality#history>.) > (*Taittiriya > Upanishad *3/1) > (ii) Existence is one; but sages call it by different > names. (*Rigveda*). [Hence the sanathanam is universal where so many > branches have coke up in different races] > (iii) Verily all are *Brahman. [ ALL INCLUDES EVERYTHING IN > THE SPACE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN) (Chandogya Upanishad 3/14/1*) From these > principles, it follows that man’s real nature is divine and he is > continuously struggling, consciously or unconsciously, to attain the > supreme goal of life which is attainment of *Brahman* or as vedanta > refers as *Moksha*or liberation –liberation from the bonds of > imperfection, death and misery. And what becomes of the man who attains > liberation? He lives a life of bliss infinite. He enjoys the bliss with > God. It also follows that the great concept of one existence or oneness > creates a feeling of unity in all human beings and in all forms of life; > hence the need for reverence to them all. This is called *lote *which is > an intense feeling of unity with all. This love can be cultivated by > purifying the mind which is generally polluted by desire, attachment and > frustration. > > These concepts led to the conviction that spiritual values { MEANS > THAT THERE ARE NO BRAHMINS AND OTHER Hindus at all} are the highest value > in life. There are other values as well, like the aspiration for wealth, > power, and material property *(Artha > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/artha#history>* and *Kaama).* But > these are never given the primary position among human aspirations, because > these are considered as means to attain the highest goal of life, namely > *Moksha.* The Hindu culture and civilization > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/civilization#history> rest upon > this spiritual value since the Vedic time. Hindu art, literature, > philosophy and education have expressed this great value. > > In short, Hinduism is *Moksha-oriented.* Swami Vivekananda has > truly said, “For good or for evil, our vitality is concentrated in our > religion. You cannot change it, you cannot destroy it and put in its place > another...This is the line of life, this is the line of growth, and this is > the line of well-being in India > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/india#history> to follow the track > of religion.” (*Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda:* Vol. III, Pp. > 178-179) > > The Hindus have no ethics in the Western sense of the term; they > have developed *dharma –* a way of life, a way of truth. In fact, Hindu > ethics of *dharma,* is essentially a discipline of life which leads one > to liberation. The details of right conduct prescribed therein, therefore, > emphasize the transformation of the whole being into a Divine one or a > *Jivanmukta purusha > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/purusha#history>.* Two paths have > been prescribed for life’s journey. One, the path of renunciation *(Nivritti > Marga > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/marga#history>)* and the other, the > path of active participation in worldly affairs *(Pavritti Marga)* First > is the direct route to the goal of life and is extremely difficult. It is > therefore meant for the chosen few. The other path is meant for the common > man and is long; that is, it takes its course through the fulfilment of > desires and material aspirations. While doing work one has to bear in mind > that material aspirations are not ends but only the means to the ultimate > goal. In the context of this path, the Hindus prescribed the scheme of > social organisation known as *Varnashrama dharma.* > > Hinduism holds that the spiritual evolution of man is a > continuous process which goes on from birth to birth. Death is not the > final end. He takes up another birth to proceed in spiritual evolution, > which is delayed if his ideal is hedonistic and is quickened if he > performs good deeds and undergoes spiritual discipline. Clean and moral > life is therefore encouraged in Hinduism. This concept is at the root of > the Hindu ethics and culture. > > The Sanatana Dharma has no conflict with other religions; {again > it means where the founders of religions developed their branches, from > which tree, branches would have been devolped? How can there be difference > between the branches and the mother tree?} it has no “battle for > ideologies” with other faiths. India, the land of *dharma,* never > preached her thoughts with gun and sword. She never waged war on her > neighbouring countries on matters religious nor she conquered any territory > on the pretext of religion. She never said: “My God is true and yours is > not; let us have a good fight over it.” She knew no proselytization. On > the other hand, she exhibited a spirit of catholicity throughout her > history. > > Spiritual principles of Sanatana Dharma were given practical shape > in the form of *Varnashrama Dharma* {there is no casteism at all} which > provided a wonderful success in the scheme of social organisation. The > whole society, adopted a positive attitude to life. We read from the *Isha > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/isha#history> Upanishad *(Verse 2) > that one should desire to live for one hundred years performing one’s > duties. The marriage vow given in the *Rigveda *runs as: “I take your > hand in mine for a happy future that you may reach old age with me as your > husband.” > > One of the Vedic prayers says: “Thou who art Power, fill me with > power; Thou who art Valour infuse valour into me; Thou who art Strength, > give me strength. Thou who art the Vital Essence, endow me with vitality. > Wrath against wrong art Thou, instil that wrath into me. Thou art > Fortitude, fill me with fortitude.” (*Shukla > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shukla#history> Yajurveda* Ch. > xix/9) We read in the *Chandogya Upanishad *(V/ix/5) that King > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/king#history> Asvapati > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ashvapati#history> Kaikeya > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/kaikeya#history> declared that in > his kingdom there were no thief, no miser, no drunkard, no man without > sacrificial fire, no ignorant person, no adulterer, much less an > adulteress. The picture of Ramarajya, as described in the *Ramayana* and > the great advice, both spiritual and secular, given by Vishwadeva, on his > death-bed to Yudhishthira > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/yudhishthira#history>, as found in > the *Mahabharata > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mahabharata#history>*shows a high > moral tone of society in the epic age. Dharma established in the reign of > King Ashoka <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ashoka#history> * and > King Harsha <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/harsha#history>vardhana > in the historical period show how the Hindu society flourished in the human > as well as in the social welfare activities. > > Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamasa said: “The Abstract Advaita (the > non-duality, the Oneness must become living and poetic in everyday life; > out of bewildering Yogism must come the most scientific and practical > psychology and all must be put in a form so that a child can grasp it.” > “All ratiocinations of logic, all these bundles of metaphysic, all these > theologies and ceremonies may have been good in their own time, but let us > try to make things simpler and bring about the golden days when every man > will be worshipped and the reality in every man will be the object of > worship.” Sanatana dharma means universal brotherhood and never attributed > any caste, creed etc. > > Sri YM wrote ( I had written about it long ago) “In the entire > History of Bharat, the Temple Priest Brahmin was never a king. Bharat was > always ruled by the non Brahmin kings. But we are drilled with the History > that the Temple priests were oppressors and now anti Brahminism is made > into a formula in political and economic climbing”. IT IS ERRANEOUS; THERE > WERE BRAHMIN KINGS ALSO. > > Dynasties > > 1 Aryacakravarti Dynasty which was Ruled By Tamil Brahmins > > 2 Baghochia Dynasty was founded By Raja Bir Sen and were the ruling > Dynasty of Hathwa Raj and Bans Gaon Estate. The Cadet branch of the Family > also Ruled Tamkuhi Raj, Salemgarh Estate, Ledo Gadi, Kiajori estate and > Kharna Ghatwali.Bhumihar dynasty > > 3 Bhurshut Dynasty was a medieval Hindu Dynasty spread across what is > now Howrah and Hooghly districts in the Indian state of West Bengal;which > was Ruled By a Royal Brahmin Family > > 4 Brahman Dynasty of Sindh was founded By Chach of Alor, later Ruled By > Chandar of Sindh and Raja Dahir > > 5 Kabul Shahi Dynasty belonged to Bali clan of Mohyal Brahmin > > 6 Kadamba Dynasty (345 – 525 CE) was a Dynasty that Ruled Northern > Karnataka and the Konkan from Banavasi in present-day Uttara Kannada > district > > 7 Kanva (Kanva Rishi) Dynasty replaced the Shunga Empire in Magadha and > Ruled in the Eastern regions of India > > 8 Karnat dynasty, Ruled by Bikauwa Brahmins > > 9 Oiniwar Dynasty, based in Mithila were Maithil Brahmins > > 10 Pallava Dynasty {c.285 -905 CE} was a Tamil brahmin of bharadwaj > gotra (Tamil Samaṇar Dynasty), Pallavas Ruled Andhra (Krishna-Guntur) and > North and Central Tamil Nadu. Appar is traditionally credited with > converting the Pallava king, Mahendravarman to Saivaism. > > 11 Parivrajaka Dynasty Ruled parts of Central India during the 5th and > 6th centuries. The kings of this Dynasty bore the title Maharaja, and > probably Ruled as feudatories of the Gupta Empire. The royal Family came > from a Lineage of Brahmins of Bharadwaj Gotra. > > 12 Patwardhan Dynasty was an Indian Dynasty established By the > Chitpavan Brahmin Patwardhan Family > > 13 Satavahana Dynasty - 230bc to 250ad In present day part of Madhya > Pradesh, Gujrat, Maharashtra, Telangana, Rajasthan, Northern Karnataka etc > > 14 Sena dyansty, Ruled by Brahmakshatriya > > 15 Shunga Empire of Magadha was established By Pushyamitra Shunga > > 16 Vakataka Dynasty was a Dynasty from the Indian subcontinent that is > believed to have extended from the southern edges of Malwa and Gujarat in > the North to the Tungabhadra River in the South as well as from the Arabian > Sea in the West to the edges of Chhattisgarh in the East > > 17 Shunga Empire > > 18 Karkota Empire under Kashmiri Brahmins > > 19 Arni Estate of Madras Presidency - Ruled By Deshastha Brahmins > > 20 Aundh State, Ruled By Deshasthas Brahmins > > 21 Banaili Estate of Bihar - Ruled By Chaudhary Bahadhur Lineage - > (Maithil Brahmins) > > 22 Baudh State was a princely state Ruled By a Brahmin Family who > adopted as successor a nephew of the Raja of Keonjhar > > 23 Benares State, a gun salute ( gun salute local) state Ruled By > Bhumihar Brahmins > > 24 Bettiah Raj Ruled By Bhumihar Brahmins > > 25 Bhawal Estate of Bengal - Ruled By Choudhary Lineage - (Shrotriya > Brahmin) > > 26 Bhor State, a gun Salute princely state Ruled By Deshasthas Brahmins > > 27 Chaube Jagirs were a group of five feudatory princely states of > Central India during the period of the British Raj. which were Ruled By > different branches of Brahmin Family. > > 28 Darbhanga Raj of Mithila, Bihar - Ruled By Maithil Brahmins > > 29 Dighapatia Raj of Bengal - Ruled By Roy Lineage - (Varendra Brahmins) > > 30 Gaurihar State of Madhya Pradesh Ruled By Deshasthas Brahmins > > 31 Ichalkaranji Estate of the British Raj - Ruled By Joshi Family - > (Chitpavan Brahmins) > > 32 Jalaun State of Bundelkhand region Ruled By a Deshasthas Brahmins > > 33 Jamkhandi State Ruled By Chitpavans Brahmins > > 34 Jhansi State Ruled By Newelkar House of Karhades Brahmins > > 35 Kurundvad Senior and Kurundvad Junior states were rulered By > Patwardhan clan of Chitpavans Brahmins > > 36 Miraj Junior and Miraj Senior states were Ruled By Chitpavans Brahmins > > 37 Muktagacha Raj of Bengal - Ruled By Chowdhary Lineage - (Varendra > Brahmins > > 38 Nadia Raj of Bengal - Ruled By Roy or Ray Lineage - (Kulin Brahmins) > > 39 Natore Raj of Bengal - Ruled By Roy Lineage - (Varendra Brahmin)[14] > > 40 Panth-Piploda Province a province of British India Ruled By a > Deshasthas Brahmins > > 41 Panyam Zamindari of Madras Presidency - Ruled By Deshastha Brahmins > > 42 Rajshahi Raj of Bengal - Ruled By Rajshahi Family - (Varendra > Brahmins) > > 43 Ramdurg State Ruled By Chitpavans Brahmins > > 44 Sangli State, an gun Salute princely state Ruled By Chitpavans > Brahmins > > 45 Tekari Raj of Bihar - Ruled By Bhumihar Brahmins > > 46 Vishalgad Estate of the British Raj - Ruled By Pant Prathinidhi > Family - (Deshastha Brahmins) > > 47 Yelandur Estate of Mysore Kingdom - Ruled By Madhwa Brahmin Family. > > 48 Zamindari of Ratangarh (Bijnore) Ruled By Taga Rao Zokha Singh Tyagi > Atri - He was a former commander (or Rao) of the northern branch of the > Maratha Confederate Army, whose control ranged to the Tarai baselands of > the Himalayas, Family of Chaudhry Lineage - Tyagi Gaur Brahmins > > 49 Mahabhartaham also narrayes such dynasty apart from the puranas too > amny. > > 50 History does not remember much of them since they ruled but never > conquered the territories. Alsi in the web people write that we never > invaded; but in the bharatha varsham the entire bhu was with us; later when > parted ways due to mass driftings, and himalaya arose, our territory shrunk > to present day Myanmar, uAE Russia and srilanka and bottom kumari kandam. > So in the history we invaded including Rajaraja Chozha in srilanka. Rama > started the invasion. > > KR IRS 101023 > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Markendeya Yeddanapudi <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 09:11 > Subject: The Temples of Sanathana Dharma as Public Sector Undertakings > To: ggroup <[email protected]>, thatha patty < > [email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > Satyanarayana Kunamneni <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > viswanatham vangapally <[email protected]>, Rajaram > Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>, Ramamurti PV < > [email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, > Kunamneni Satyanarayana <[email protected]>, Ramu S <[email protected]>, > Deepali Hadker <[email protected]>, Krishnamacharyulu > Nanduri <[email protected]> > > > > > -- > *Mar*The Temples of Sanathana Dharma as Public Sector Undertakings > > > > There was no founder of Sanathana Dharma. It evolved for thousands of > years, converting the airflow as the flow of emotions and inspirations. At > places where the inspiration was very strong, a Temple evolved. The Temple > synchronized with the geography, flora, fauna and climate, with symbiotic > philosophy. Many Art Forms, Dance Forms, Musics, Songs, Prayers with > symbiotic pronunciations, Local Temple based Philosophies evolved for > thousands of years, as part of the spiritual evolution. > > Sanathana Dharma was/is an open philosophy, enriching itself with new and > new philosophies, thoughts, perceptions, songs, dances, sculptures and > symbiotic caste or occupation based barter economies and traditions, > customs and beliefs. Every caste has its own Temples, with the occupation > as Philosophy, the philosophy in barter system, each caste giving its > contribution while receiving its needs from the other castes. > > The invading religions and marauders and destroyers, created a very > negative History of the wonderful caste symbiosis, history and heritage, > and we have been so enslaved, we feel guilty like the chronic slaves, to > even feel proud of the wonderful caste heritage of our Sanathana Dharma. > The ultimate slavery is fear of self esteem, fear of self respect and fear > of pride of self culture as identity. > > The destruction of our Temples and wonderful architectures by the Muslim > invaders, the horrible inquisitions by burning by St Xaviers, where > thousands and thousands were burnt alive, could not kill completely our > genes, the Sanathana Dharma in our DNA. > > And stupidly we have joined the slogan or shrill shout that castes shall > be eradicated, championing the murder of the History of achievements of our > ancestors. The History of thousands of years of our own forefathers is > sought to be erased after smearing by today’s politically ambitious to whom > their personal ambition overrides every value. > > In the entire History of Bharat, the Temple Priest Brahmin was never a > king. Bharat was always ruled by the non Brahmin kings. But we are drilled > with the History that the Temple priests were oppressors and now anti > Brahminism is made into a formula in political and economic climbing. > > At the most fundamental level, every life form was/is a Sanathana Dharmi. > Sanathana Dharma and freedom to nature are synonyms. Temples were the > flowers of free, lush and healthy nature. > > Today, in the most shameless and brazen act, under the ‘Hindu Religious > and Endowments Act’, every Temple is made into a public sector commercial > undertaking. The Government gobbles the funds, often uses them for vote > banking and also for the non Sanathana religions. > > No Mosque or Church pays a single pie as tax. > > But the whole of Temples are taken over by the government which has > converted the places of Temples into Holiday Tourist resorts often after > destroying the flora and the fauna of the place. > > The Leftists, strangely have combined with the Muslim League, and they > have intellectualized the anti Hindu culture. If we agree with them, then > all our forefathers were fools and monsters. > > YM > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCJ3-skUQZTRo1XmDc3sMugyuk9h%3DFU%3Dkt01AwkchqXsxA%40mail.gmail.com.
