Respected sirs,
I read the first posting about karna mantra where it was clearly stated for
the meaning and explanation to contact family priests. There would have been a
purpose when he stated so.
My first thinking was this has to be explained if necessary after death during
the funeral time.
Waiting to respond anything posted under the sky, it is quite natural Mr
Rajaram responded. It made me to think he would have officiated as family
priest in funerals.
I read again the 2nd posting by Mr Narayanaswamy in response to Mr Rajaram.
As Mr Narayanaswamy stated I have heard only six pranas in our body.
Let our family priests explain about Karnamantra at the required time, , and I
request both Mr Narayanaswamy and Mr Rajaram to discontinue further discussion.
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 13 October, 2023 at 08:48:14 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma
<[email protected]> wrote:
Pranams Brahmasri Narayanaswamy Anna
Not just this humble servant of yours, but every person who has read this piece
owes a debt of gratitude for the patient, lucid and in-depth sharing of youf
encyclopaedic knowledge
Humble pranams again
On Fri, 13 Oct, 2023, 8:26 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
When I have clearly stated that:-
"For clarification, meaning, significance, etc. please contact your own family
priest. Thanks,"
why does a know-nothing dalit-by-choice corpse-feeding vulture (which condemns
and insults every braahmana priest and which vilifies and abuses every head of
our revered mutts) try to start a fight by a fresh series of blasphemies and
lies?
It shrieks:-
"Karna mantra japa is done to release the ten Pranas from the body in a smooth
manner."
My comments:-
First, there are only SIX (NOT TEN as lied) praanaas in the body -- praanaa,
apaanaa, vyaanaa, udaanaa, samaana, brahma.
Second, the eyes, ears, mind, speech, aathma, earth, anthariksham, divam,
svargam, are not, nor ever have been praanams.
Third, the unfounded, ignorant proposition:-
"The flow of creation from the Sun (Paramatma) to the individual (Jivatma) is
mentioned here. They all have to remain together as a unit because the soul has
to assume another body to start its journey towards Yamaloka,"
is ABSOLUTE TRASH. Output of the diseased imagination of an uneducated pariah
outcaste. The soul, which has left the body DOES NOT "assume another body" for
any purpose whatsoever.
In fact, during the apara kriyas immediately following cremation of the dead
body and lasting till the first abdikam, the soul is elevated into the realm of
the vaasus.
Fourth, perhaps only the paapaa-overburdened soul of shameless blasphemer KR
ex-IRS 13 10 23 is stuffed into the dead body of a rabid dog, a NAYUNDA MAVEN,
and taken to yamalokam, and thence to narakam, for eternal punishment.
Fifth, the further lie:-
"This new body is called Ativahika Sharira. Ativahika Sharira is created out of
the pindas provided during the first ten days of the rites,"
merely further evidences the destroyed mind of the dalit-by-choice which has no
knowledge of anything, much less what are the correct apara-kriyas and their
effects, but lets its ill-conceived insane nightmares run riot.
Sixth, had the provocateur remained silent, he might have been bypassed for
being a fool and an idiot.
But he cannot contain himself, but must expose his total lack of education, his
low birth and his lower upbringing, and his moronic idiocy by volunteering to
fight in an arena about which he knows less than nothing and by interfering
unwanted and unwelcome with a message not meant for him but only for members of
the iyer123 group.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 3:26 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
Karna mantra japa
This is to be done when the Pranas are actually leaving thebody. The son places
the dying person's head on his right knee and chantsthe following mantra in his
right ear. However, since this is difficult,it is done as the first step of the
rituals post-death. The person shouldbe lying on the floor on top of strewn
darbha while prana is leaving thebody. Karna mantra japa is done to release the
ten Pranas from the body ina smooth manner.
Mantra - Ayushaha pranam santanu ....
Mantra - Let Prana not be separated from longevity. LetApana not be separated
from Prana. Let vyana not be separated fromApana. Let eyes not be separated
from Vyana. Let ears not beseparated from the eyes. Let the mind not be
separated from theears. Let speech not be separated from the mind. Let atma not
beseparated from speech. Let earth not be separated from atma. LetAntariksha
not be separated from the earth. Let Swarga not be separatedfrom Antariksha.
Let Sun not be separated from Swarga.
Note: The flow of creation from the Sun (Paramatma) to theindividual (Jivatma)
is mentioned here. They all have to remain togetheras a unit because the soul
has to assume another body to start its journeytowards Yamaloka. This new body
is called AtivahikaSharira. Ativahika Sharira is created out of the pindas
provided duringthe first ten days of the rites. They all have to stay together
and enterthe new body. Only the physical body comprising the five elements is
goingto be destroyed.
In case the dying person is learned in the Vedas, the twoanuvakas ' brahmavid
apnoti param ' and 'bhrigurvai vaaruni' arechanted. This is followed by the
japa of the Ashtakshari mantra (Om NamoNarayanaya) and the Panchakshari mantra
(Om Namasshivaya ) in theear. After the prana leaves the body, it is to be laid
on the floor ondarbha grass with its head towards the south.
KR IRS 12 10 23
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 12:43
Subject: Re: [iyer123] karna-manthram whispered by ekdest son to right ear of
dead Braahmana
To: iyer <[email protected]>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
Respected Anna
We would be highly obliged if you yourself could elaborate in your unique
simple, fluent and easy to understand style the meaning and significance of
these mantras
Respectfully yours
Laxminarayan
On Thu, 12 Oct, 2023, 12:37 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:
om namo bhagavathe vaasudevaayaom namashshivaaya
aayusha praanam santhanupraanaath apaanam santhanuapaanaath vyaanam
santhanuvyaanaath chakshushu santhanuchakshushu sthrothram santhanushrothaan
manas santhnu
mano vaacham santhanuvaacha aathmaanam santhanu
aathmmanah prithiveen santhanuprithivyaa anthariksham santhanuantharikshaath
divam santhanudiva suva santhanu
om namo naaraayanaayaom namah shivaayagovindaa govindaa govindaa
S Narayanaswamy Iyer(Note:- For clarification, meaning, significance, etc.
please contact your own family priest. Thanks.)
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