The PARA-YAN from the sincity can write only as I went to school as meaning I went to school. So ignore the parayan statement. He does know as a purohit only verses, without any application of the mind. The karna mantra proposed by that idiot is only one where it is supposed to be the eldest son; but any one can pray from outside including sarva dharman Parityajya, Aum Namah Shivaya, anything. The Mantra is not exclusive and is included among the death ritual mantras. Just think whether anyone can know when one will die? No one knows; but the Vedas are certain about the singularity manifested in many Jeevatmas; and the Atman is while parting, one may not remember to recite the name of GOD,so the philosophy of good parting of the Pancha bhuta and the panchendriya and the mind and buddhi parting away from the so long active body, is told the parting mind, to rest in peace. So Purohit who did half veda study may not know anything to teach the yajamans; the example is this parayan himself. There isa verse in sanskrit as Bhaja govindam and thiruvaimozhi where said துப்புடையாரை அடைவது எல்லாம்* சோர்விடத்துத் துணை ஆவர் என்றே* ஒப்பிலேன் ஆகிலும் நின் அடைந்தேன்* ஆனைக்கு நீ அருள் செய்தமையால்* எய்ப்பு என்னை வந்து நலியும்போது* அங்கு ஏதும் நான் உன்னை நினைக்கமாட்டேன்* அப்போதைக்கு இப்போதே சொல்லி வைத்தேன்* அரங்கத்து அரவணைப் பள்ளியானே! (2) It means that at the death bed consciousness to think of GOD may not be there; so recite now itself; and where it is missing, someone will recite to see that your death is peaceful; the atma 23 parts 4*5=20 +2+1 shall leave one by one resting one in peace. It is for goo9d people and good souls; the karma alone will become final. Karna mantra is branded in the verse but any recoitals are only Karna mantra. If this one is not known will any american will go to hell and only Indians will go to swarga? No So the meaning is as Upanishad explained about 23 elements (24 in vaishnavism) the death occurs parted one by one. There is no more secrecy and the inner meaning alone I wrote and now I am going to school in the paraya. HE STARTED SO i BLEW HIM. KR IRS 131023
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 at 08:26 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] karna-manthram whispered by ekdest son to right ear of dead Braahmana To: iyer <[email protected]> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Dear folks When I have clearly stated that:- *"For clarification, meaning, significance, etc. please contact your own family priest. Thanks,"* why does a know-nothing dalit-by-choice corpse-feeding vulture (which condemns and insults every braahmana priest and which vilifies and abuses every head of our revered mutts) try to start a fight by a fresh series of blasphemies and lies? It shrieks:- "*Karna mantra japa is done to release the ten Pranas from the body in a smooth manner."* My comments:- First, there are only SIX (NOT TEN as lied) praanaas in the body -- praanaa, apaanaa, vyaanaa, udaanaa, samaana, brahma. Second, the eyes, ears, mind, speech, aathma, earth, anthariksham, divam, svargam, are not, nor ever have been praanams. Third, the unfounded, ignorant proposition:- "The flow of creation from the Sun (Paramatma) to the individual (Jivatma) is mentioned here. They all have to remain together as a unit because the soul has to assume another body to start its journey towards Yamaloka," is *ABSOLUTE TRASH*. Output of the diseased imagination of an uneducated pariah outcaste. The soul, which has left the body DOES NOT "assume another body" for any purpose whatsoever. In fact, during the apara kriyas immediately following cremation of the dead body and lasting till the first abdikam, the soul is elevated into the realm of the vaasus. Fourth, perhaps only the paapaa-overburdened soul of shameless blasphemer *KR ex-IRS 13 10 23* is stuffed into the dead body of a rabid dog, a NAYUNDA MAVEN, and taken to yamalokam, and thence to narakam, for eternal punishment. Fifth, the further lie:- "This new body is called Ativahika Sharira. Ativahika Sharira is created out of the pindas provided during the first ten days of the rites," merely further evidences the destroyed mind of the dalit-by-choice which has no knowledge of anything, much less what are the correct apara-kriyas and their effects, but lets its ill-conceived insane nightmares run riot. Sixth, had the provocateur remained silent, he might have been bypassed for being a fool and an idiot. But he cannot contain himself, but must expose his total lack of education, his low birth and his lower upbringing, and his moronic idiocy by volunteering to fight in an arena about which he knows less than nothing and by interfering unwanted and unwelcome with a message not meant for him but only for members of the iyer123 group. S Narayanaswamy Iyer On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 3:26 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > *Karna mantra japa* > > This is to be done when the Pranas are actually leaving the body. The son > places the dying person's head on his right knee and chants the following > mantra in his right ear. However, since this is difficult, it is done as > the first step of the rituals post-death. The person should be lying on the > floor on top of strewn darbha while prana is leaving the body. Karna mantra > japa is done to release the ten Pranas from the body in a smooth manner. > > Mantra - Ayushaha pranam santanu .... > > Mantra - Let Prana not be separated from longevity. Let Apana not be > separated from Prana. Let vyana not be separated from Apana. Let eyes not > be separated from Vyana. Let ears not be separated from the eyes. Let the > mind not be separated from the ears. Let speech not be separated from the > mind. Let atma not be separated from speech. Let earth not be separated > from atma. Let Antariksha not be separated from the earth. Let Swarga not > be separated from Antariksha. Let Sun not be separated from Swarga. > > Note: The flow of creation from the Sun (Paramatma) to the individual > (Jivatma) is mentioned here. They all have to remain together as a unit > because the soul has to assume another body to start its journey towards > Yamaloka. This new body is called Ativahika Sharira. Ativahika Sharira is > created out of the pindas provided during the first ten days of the > rites. They all have to stay together and enter the new body. Only the > physical body comprising the five elements is going to be destroyed. > > In case the dying person is learned in the Vedas, the two anuvakas ' > brahmavid apnoti param ' and 'bhrigurvai vaaruni' are chanted. This is > followed by the japa of the Ashtakshari mantra (Om Namo Narayanaya) and the > Panchakshari mantra (Om Namasshivaya ) in the ear. After the prana leaves > the body, it is to be laid on the floor on darbha grass with its head > towards the south. > > KR IRS 12 10 23 > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 12:43 > Subject: Re: [iyer123] karna-manthram whispered by ekdest son to right ear > of dead Braahmana > To: iyer <[email protected]> > Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > > > Respected Anna > > We would be highly obliged if you yourself could elaborate in your unique > simple, fluent and easy to understand style the meaning and significance of > these mantras > > Respectfully yours > > Laxminarayan > > > On Thu, 12 Oct, 2023, 12:37 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> *om namo bhagavathe vaasudevaaya* >> *om namashshivaaya* >> >> *aayusha praanam santhanu* >> *praanaath apaanam santhanu* >> *apaanaath vyaanam santhanu* >> *vyaanaath chakshushu santhanu* >> *chakshushu sthrothram santhanu* >> *shrothaan manas santhnu* >> >> *mano vaacham santhanu* >> >> *vaacha aathmaanam santhanu* >> *aathmmanah prithiveen santhanu* >> *prithivyaa anthariksham santhanu* >> *antharikshaath divam santhanu* >> *diva suva santhanu* >> >> *om namo naaraayanaaya* >> *om namah shivaaya* >> *govindaa govindaa govindaa* >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> (*Note*:- For clarification, meaning, significance, etc. please contact >> your own family priest. 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