Sir,
Thank you for your response.But what you have written as the various lines
of high brow justifications and explanations and new entrepreneurial
initiatives,does not explain how much of the destruction of nature is
stemmed,how education is to be made ecological and not continue into
promoting mechanization and the resulting redundance or elimination of
nature's processes.
YM

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:47 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Symbiotic vs otherwise
>
> WHAT IS SYMBIOTIC ECONOMY?
>
>      Everything these days is intricately connected and influences each
> other—person, organization, object, or bit of information. In fact, being
> connected is vital to co-creative activities, which are more highly valued
> now than ever. A prime example is industrial symbiotic economy: a
> framework for supporting entrepreneurial undertakings and attaining
> economic growth while reducing environmental burdens. In such economy,
> multiple companies and businesses from any industry orchestrate their
> business activities in a sustainable way by coexisting via mutual
> utilization of each other‘s assets. Unlike companies and institutions
> working individually, the symbiotic approach can be a formidable means to
> transform society by reducing industrial impact on the environment.
>
>     The United Nations estimates the world‘s population will reach 9.7
> billion in 2050, up nearly 25% from 2020. The population increase
> stimulates economic activities and leads to greater consumption of
> resources. In a mass production and consumption economy, this also means a
> massive increase of waste, which adds to the burden on the global
> environment in such forms as marine plastic pollution, climate change, loss
> of tropical forests, and diminished biodiversity. To help avert this
> crisis, a shared framework for sustainability, designed from a symbiotic
> perspective, is needed. Transcending organizational barriers, we must
> more efficiently use energy, water, and other critical resources.
> Responding in this way will not only avoid breaching planetary boundaries
> but also build a society and economy that are sustainable.
>
>   Technology plays a key role in an industrial symbiotic economy by
> ensuring that resources are fully utilized. It also can help minimize
> industrial waste or convert unused or discarded resources from one business
> into valuable resources for another. Once businesses and organizations
> realize they can mutually benefit by using each other‘s assets sustainably,
> they can create a system to optimize use of water, energy, and waste in a
> way that reduces the environmental burden. And when their industrial
> processes eventually become autonomous, the door opens for an ideal
> economy wherein human intervention is minimized and maximum efficiency
> achieved without breaching any planetary boundary.
>
>    To enable such a beneficent circle, it is essential to bring disparate
> systems together without compromising their autonomy in operations and
> management, and to coordinate their processes to achieve goals otherwise
> unattainable. That is where the ability to “connect”—one of Yokogawa‘s
> core competences—comes into play. The company defines its purpose as
> follows: “Utilizing our ability to measure and connect, we fulfill our
> responsibilities for the future of our planet.” In line with this spirit,
> Yokogawa connects diverse sets of information, people, organizations, and
> companies to create new value and help build an industrial symbiotic
> economy. Now the question is when rain brought in TN alone in 2 days one
> lakh ton of waste, which cannot be destroyed but allowed to remain in some
> corner, to become, in the next rain , 10 lakh to of waste only, how the
> symbiotic economy can be prevailed over?
>
>      WHAT IS DARWINEAN ECONOMY
>
>      Only the best waste will survive? Who was the greater economist—Adam
> Smith or Charles Darwin? The question seems absurd. Darwin, after all, was
> a naturalist, not an economist. But Robert Frank, New York Times economics
> columnist and best-selling author of The Economic Naturalist, predicts that 
> within
> the next century Darwin will unseat Smith as the intellectual founder of
> economics. The reason, Frank argues, is that Darwin’s understanding of
> competition describes economic reality far more accurately than Smith’s.
> And the consequences of this fact are profound. Indeed, the failure to
> recognize that we live in Darwin’s world rather than Smith’s is putting us
> all at risk by preventing us from seeing that competition alone will not
> solve our problems.
>
>     *Adam Smith’s theory of the invisible hand*, which says that
> competition channels self-interest for the common good, is probably the
> most widely cited argument today in Favor of unbridled competition—and
> against regulation, taxation, and even government itself. But what if
> Smith’s idea was almost an exception to the general rule of competition?
> That’s what Frank argues, resting his case on Darwin’s insight that individual
> and group interests often diverge sharply. Far from creating a perfect
> world, economic competition often leads to “arms races,” { only the
> better of the best can survive] encouraging behaviors that not only cause
> enormous harm to the group but also provide no lasting advantages for
> individuals, since any gains tend to be relative and mutually offsetting.
>
>    The good news is that we have the ability to tame the Darwin economy. The
> best solution is not to prohibit harmful behaviors but to tax them. By
> doing so, we could make the economic pie larger, eliminate government debt,
> and provide better public services, all without requiring painful
> sacrifices from anyone. That’s a bold claim, Frank concedes, but it
> follows directly from logic and evidence that most people already accept.
> (But does it not look a Gandhi an theory or an utopia?]  What is economic
> Darwinism? Economic Darwinism is an evolutionary process of natural
> selection, being applied to business models. It suggests that economic
> competitions make organizations struggle for survival. And those
> organizations that fail to adapt the changes in environment, do not survive.
>
>      Evolutionary economics is a theory proposing that economic processes
> evolve and that economic behavior is determined both by individuals and
> society as a whole. The term was first coined by Thorstein Veblen
> (1857-1929), an American economist and sociologist.
>
>       Evolutionary economics explores how human behavior, such as our
> sense of fairness and justice, extends to economics and seeks to explain
> economic behavior and progress in relation to evolution and evolutionary
> human instincts such as predation, emulation, and curiosity. In the free
> market, the survival of the fittest model is rampant. Consumers have plenty
> of choices, few firms can fully meet their needs and everything is in a
> constant state of flux, meaning that many competitors will be obliterated.
>
>         One of the biggest lessons that most evolutionary economists
> agree on is that failure is good and just as important as success.
> According to the theory, failure paves the way to economic prosperity by
> encouraging greater efficiency and the development of better products and
> services. It also teaches us more about how society's needs develop over
> time.
>
>         To sum up, Waste management's future includes turning waste into
> energy, IoT-enabled practices, improvement in monitoring systems, data
> collection, and much more technology-based advancements.
>
>            The symbiotic relations appear as dynamic relations that are
> not limited to the classical concepts of interspecific relations. Three
> main theoretical concepts are important to consider in the new approach on 
> symbiogenic
> evolution. The first one is symbiosis, defined as “the living together of
> unlike named organisms”, and introduced in 1878 by the German biologist
> Anton de Bary .Associated with this concept, is symbiogenesis, developed by
> the Russian biologist Constantin Mereschkowsky in 1909, as “the origin of
> organisms through the combination or association of two or more beings that
> enter in symbiosis”, and based on the role of cyanobacteria in the origin
> of chloroplasts in plants . The third concept, presented by the American
> biologist Lynn Margulis in 1967 – the Serial Endosymbiotic Theory (SET) –,
> was a remarkable contribution to the rehabilitation and development of the
> symbiogenesis ideas applied to the cellular world, explaining in an elegant
> way the transition bridge between the prokaryotic and the eukaryotic levels
> of the biological organization (Sagan1967). This reality demonstrates the
> need for conceptual changes in the traditional vision that has been passed
> on to the organism’s structures and functions.
>
>           These principles can be applied to life on Earth and beyond,
> following the idea that the general mechanisms governing the evolutionary
> principles must be universal, surpassing the terrestrial dimension and
> projecting themselves in the universe. The biological organisms resulting
> from this process acquire characteristics inherent to the ecosystems where
> they are established and develop.  Both are needed and Modi is not there,
> if there is no Stalin; the good and the bad will generate a 3rd focus in
> future. K RAJARAM  IRS  20 12 23
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 09:05, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Mar*Symbiotic Economics-Vs-Darwinian Economics
>>
>>
>>
>> Economics champions the human to be the ultimate successful Darwinian
>> rogue. It actually created the mechanized human, the economic man, without
>> feelings and emotions, who wars with every life form to subdue it into an
>> economic resource. This economic human is not a member of the Biosphere,
>> but just a machine that destroys nature for living by the human as the
>> economic human machine.
>>
>>  While every life form other than the human is straight away put into the
>> economic torture and destruction chamber, in the case of the human, it
>> promotes the substitution of every organ and limb with a machine which
>> performs the functions of the limbs, making the limb frozen and redundant.
>> It is busy cyborging the human life, and the human beings, and today we
>> have the Robots and the Chat GPT, to complete the transformation of the
>> natural human into the economic human.
>>
>> Machines have no feelings and emotions and they do not have the hormonal
>> information structures that create the cellular coordinated action. A limb
>> on the other hand is part of the gigantic emotional structure of the
>> Biosphere as a whole. Emotions and feelings become hormones in the
>> bloodstream, they enter the cells, making them perform their specific nano
>> function to make the body as a whole function, making the human and every
>> other organism contribute to the ultimate Biospheric ecological and
>> emotional symbiosis, via inhalation and exhalation.
>>
>> Once education was continuously expanding the horizon of emotional
>> perception and understanding, by living as a sprout, limb and active part
>> of nature, through various yogic paths. It is ridiculed and lampooned and
>> excluded from the regular education. It is put into the domain of
>> Spiritualists, who are outside the University academicians.
>>
>> The clear fact is that machines are making the Biosphere including the
>> human extinct. The humans are committing suicide with mechanization but get
>> deceived by the human machine, the economic man that it is progress of
>> achieving higher and higher standards of life. The meaning given to
>> standard of life is in terms of machines used to do the work of the natural
>> organs and limbs, euphemized as comforts, luxuries etc.
>>
>> Now we are no longer the Homo sapiens. We have become the cyborged
>> economic machines trying to become more and more mechanical, converting our
>> life into the struggle for self mechanization.
>>
>> Even the subject Ecology is made into a Newtonian science. It is not
>> emotional ecology, studying the emotional symbiosis of the Biosphere. We
>> confront the smug assertion that emotional symbiosis is not scientifically
>> proved. They revel in the blind, deaf, anosmiatic (Disability to Smell) and
>> insensitive contempt towards any mention of the emotional symbiosis that
>> governs the relations among the organisms of the Biosphere.
>>
>> Today we see whole rivers being killed, lakes and water bodies being
>> converted into Building Complexes, total indifference for the foods and
>> habitats of every organism, whole tribes being driven out of their
>> lands…,all concealed by commercial advertising and marketing.
>>
>> Democracy unfortunately has been made into a euphemism for gangsterism.
>> Mass hysteria and mob creations have created the Demagogue Mahatmas.
>> Environmental and ecological sanity is killed by the obfuscation of pitting
>> human rights against the rights of nature. The Demagogues loot huge
>> properties while the ordinary laborers are used as the cannon fodder of
>> gangster driven agitations. The sons and daughters after a successful
>> agitation arrive often from some other country to preside over a new
>> economic empire protected by political power. And the destruction of nature
>> continues.
>>
>> The Universities are being taken over by the frenzy for mechanization and
>> automation. The MNCs the inanimate destroyers of nature have taken over the
>> campuses via campus recruitment.
>>
>> Now how to stem the extinction that is happening?
>>
>> YM
>>
>

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