Yes sir,
Let the Hiranayakashipu OLD MAN Mr Rajaram  roar and roar. 

Gopalakrishnan

    On Wednesday, 22 May, 2024 at 06:01:35 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 
Let the modern-day Hiranyakashipu have his say, have his day.  Let him stomp 
around.  And roar himself hoarse.  The Prahlaadas know what is coming.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 8:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> 
wrote:

The old man and the madman and the swatch man expecting to sustain at the cost 
of others as 2 hands to clap is at the anvil according to them. Well It is 
History that shows who laughs the last . And once Kannadasan wrote in a song, 
ADHU PURIYAMAL PONAAL VEDANTHAM ; L KG words are so gothic or vedic. Age is a 
concern only when behaviour is respectful or else  no respectful person will 
remain silent as so many in our land accept the blows.  One who cannot dance 
alone will use the man slaughter  Thank you KR IRS 21524
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From: 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 at 07:28
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] retort 2 in 10 minutes to zero Narayanasamy
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Narayanaswamy 
Iyer <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>, APS Mani 
<[email protected]>


 Respected sir,
It is best  not to respond to a mentally derailed member  like Mr Rajaram. . It 
will be endless. The mad man does not know he is abusing his own wards and 
ancestors. Recently I read a response in which he abuses you as old man. He 
does not know even his age. Let us hope a speedy recovery from illness to old 
man Mr Rajaram. 

Gopalakrishnan

    On Tuesday, 21 May, 2024 at 05:49:51 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Because pinned to the wall and stark naked for his acrimony admitted KR
On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 04:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:

Ghouls howling on moonless midnights in the arid deserts deserve neither notice 
nor reply.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 10:39 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Dear folks//   Dear all

 

Whenever confronted with the inescapable truth, the deadand buried hairless, 
toothless, witless, unlearned, illiterate, unschooled,uneducated aachaa-paatti 
old hag Karuppaayee-paatti K Rajaram ex-IRS  20524 shrieks from her 
worm-crawling rottingcadaver six feet below ground, confused and conflicted in 
everything sheblabbers,

KR  Kizhattuppaya RIP and dead already fromsinful city pimpS Narayanasamy

(1)  As I clarifiedearlier:-  Varana" has nothing to dowith "varna".

The Sanskrit word "varanam" means, among otherthings, begging, soliciting, 
requesting, covering, screening, protecting, arampart, surrounding wall, a 
ridge, a tree in general, a camel.  "Vara" means best, excellent, mostbeautiful 
or precious, better and preferable, and so on.

The four varnas are fully set out in our vedams asbraahmana, kshathriya, 
vaishya, and shoodra, who each spring respectively fromthe various parts of the 
body of the original virad-purusha.

It is NEVER a free choice for a new-born baby to choosehis or her varna.  

The baby follows the varna of its legitimately marriedparents.  

(2)   As for thereliance on Skaanda puraanam, I have already pointed out that a 
fallible merehuman-originated puraanam has no authority to over-ride our 
vedams. 

(3)  Same goes  for reliance on the mahaa-bhaaratham, apuraanam written by 
illegitimate Vyaasa (whose parents neve married), tripleadulterer and rapist of 
dead King Vichithraveeryan's two widows Ambikaa andAmbaalikaa, and the latter's 
maid-servant, producing respectively illegitimatesons blind Dritharaashtra, 
mottled-skin Paandoo, and Vidoora.

KR Hello I hadgiven evidence; so you have rebut with evidence; and not your 
ignorancedisplayed. Theabsence of evidence from you is lack of evidence and so 
crash face down.

(4)   Manu Smrithiis no authority for over-riding the clear language of the 
vedam regarding theorigin, order of precedence, and distinction of the four 
varnas.

KR     Manu smirithi is not authority, but S Narayanasamygutter is?  Denial and 
assertions arenegative reasoning succeptible to downfall of your words 
Narayana. 

(5)  As for relianceon Yaajnyavalkya, I have already emphasised that he is 
merely a rebel studentwho was expelled from Veda-school for disruptive 
behaviour and grossinsubordination.  His words are of noconsequence.

KR   Rebel than you Narayana? At least he wrotesomething which are there to 
follow, by so many; but you are big zero and yetcan talk? 

(6)   "Theycall the Teacher “father,” on account of his imparting the Veda."

My comments:-

No.  Not at all.

It is the boy's real birth father who imparts theVeda-manthrams to his son.  
The"teacher" or "guru" merely acts as a supplementary tutorfor the real father.

KR    As I am teaching you you become my prodigalson according to veda. 

    Verse 2.171: Section XXIX - Meaning of Term‘Twice-born’

Sanskrit text,Unicode transliteration and English translation by Ganganath Jha:

वेदप्रदानादाचार्यंपितरं परिचक्षते ।

न ह्यस्मिन्युज्यते कर्म किञ्चिदा मौञ्जिबन्धनात् ॥ १७१ ॥

vedapradānādācāryaṃpitaraṃ paricakṣate |

na hyasmin yujyatekarma kiñcidā mauñjibandhanāt || 171 ||

They call theTeacher “father,” on account of his imparting the Veda. Before the 
tying of thegirdle, the performance of no religious act is proper for him. 
—(171)

And show me yourany authority for your speech from your KYV which has 30% Rig 
vedam and 70% proceduresonly

K Rajaram IRS 20524//21524  


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