Sir,
I have already replied regarding Bhiksha. In the Kaliyuga,  Brahmins had the 
highest status. They were Rajagurus, till there were kingdoms. Most of them 
were associated with Kings and temples in someway or other. They had highest 
position in society. Their number were less.

The kings rewarded many with Gold coins, Agricultural land etc. who had more 
abilities in different fields of intelligence .These Brahmins became more rich. 
 Hence a difference came up among Brahmins. 

In the later period giving importance to Vedic studies became secondary with 
many Brahmins. Persons like Chanakya could advise kings about war, establishing 
kingdom etc. Those capable got higher education, employment in higher position 
like Ramayyan Dalava, CP Ramaswamy iyer etc.in Kerala History. Because of the 
higher intelligence they were in Higher positions in all dynasties and in 
British regime. Sir, C P Ramaswamy iyer was from Vandavasi in Tamilnadu!! In 
fact he ruled Kerala on behalf of the King. 

Those who had slightly  lesser intelligence had to continue with Vedic studies 
and Vedic profession. So difference in strata got created. But these people 
also became rich, because they were must for all samskaras. 

As in any other community some were average. To make a livelihood they had to 
do any job possible by them as temple assistants, assistants in samskaras, 
cooking, and involvement in business etc.

The main  issue was those in very high positions kept  aloof without much 
mixing.  The same came with all communities and creating subdivisions. 


    On Friday, 24 May, 2024 at 06:36:17 am IST, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 I think that the whole notion that Brahmins were / are all beggars is a 
statement made-up by political gangs. 
In ancient times Kshatriyas were ruling the kingdom and Vaisyas and Sudras were 
assigned the job of Farming and food production and distribution.The Brahmins, 
a small community, some as Panars, studied the books, performed prayer services 
in temples and for the kings and also for some households for important 
occasions. Brahmins were also involved in agriculture and sale of food items. 
It was their realization that the reciting the Vedas and Manthras will bring 
prosperity to the community and the place they dwell. So, the kings organized a 
row of houses around the temples and housed them with some Vedic Brahmin 
families whose job will be ti sit in the front yard and recite the four Vedas 
and prayer manthras every early morning, noon time, evening and bed time. This 
is how the Agraharams developed. Since they cannot go to the fields to earn a 
living, the Kings ordered that all members of the community will come and offer 
their food grains to these Brahmins. Also, when there was a need, these 
Brahmins may go around to the houses, in the street while reciting these 
prayers and collect food from all other community members (that included 
Brahmins not involved in this orders oof the king in reciting the prayers.
With kind regards & best wishes,

Bala N. Aiyer 

    On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 11:03:19 AM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 
Biksha

    The write up ofMr Gopalakrishnan with the usual punch words (which will 
make me retort and hewill be wounded a reminder Let it be the last) and that of 
Mr Sekar areexpressed defending the actions. Being a Brahmin is so difficult. A 
ROSE IS ROSEIS ROSE BY WHAT EVER NAME CALLED So also alms is alms is alms by 
whatever namecalled as Biksha or begging. The Brahmin must forego all his EGO, 
so has to begas BHAVATHI BIKSHAM DEHI. THAT TOO IN ONLY ONE HOUSE NOT ALL THE 
STREETS ANDHOMES. {VIDE IN SIVAKAMASUNDARI OF GOPALAKRISHNAN/S EFFECT AND MY 
NOTES BELOWIN WHICH YANGNA VALKYA SMRITHI OPENS UP WITH FOOD. AND ALSO, PL NOT 
BRAHMINS OFSOME SECT OR YAGNA BRAHMINS DID CONSUME MEAT. 

     Hence simplyexpressing from air is insignificant. Brahmin is dependent on 
all the threevarnas. Poets were dependent on alms. Panar was a tribe who 
praised the king fora paltry wealth. People respected them and did honourably 
maintain them ONLYFOR THAT. The day on which Brahmins started dictating terms, 
incorporating as asuperior class, within 500 years the down fall started. And 
wherever the angerprevailed even among the Rishis they fell down and were kept 
away from thegroove. If Guru Dakshina was a voluntary act, then why did Drona 
ask for a finger?If money was not a criterion and King Durupadan, turned Drona 
back, why did heask Arjuna to get the king on wheels tied? Not expecting any 
thing in return isBrahminic quality but such characters dwindled past 1600AD. 
Even today I know afew doing sradham for almost nothing; at the same time, I 
also know a lot 90%turned money-hunters after learning vedam, demanding the 
cost or walk away withpride hence I insult Vadhyars of today. ONE WHO (VADHYAR) 
KNOWS THAT HE(YAJAMAN) knows what we are pronouncing and doing, behave quietly; 
rest inmajority who are mechanical are drained by them unaware of, while even 
cuttingdown the wedding mantras. That is why Biksha is begging only which cuts 
downthe ego, however, where it is mutual, respect glows or else one may have 
recitedBHARTHI CHINNAP PAYAL. (hope all knew it).

        Bhikṣā (भिक्षा) refers to “alms”, according to the9th-century 
Sarvajñānottaratantra chapter 18.—Accordingly, “Next, I shall teachthe best 
observance among observances, which is known as the Śiva-vrata andwhich is 
revered by Asuras and Gods alike. [...] He should dwell constantly ina temple 
of Śiva, eating alms (bhikṣā-bhakṣa), controlling his senses, devotedto 
recitation and meditation, maintaining silence, venerating Śiva, the fireand 
his guru. When a year has passed, he will become equal to Śiva. [...]”.

         Bhikṣā (भिक्षा) refersto “one who begs”, according to the 
Kubjikāmata-tantra, the earliest popularand most authoritative Tantra of the 
Kubjikā cult.—Accordingly, “Neithermother, father, brother or relatives help 
one as the teacher does. Havingunderstood this, whether he suffers when there 
is (cause for) suffering or ishappy when there is (cause for) happiness, he 
should not, even unwittingly,assume a position contrary to (the one his) 
teacher has. Sitting next to him(the disciple) should massage him and the like. 
He should offer him the bowlwith which he begs (bhikṣā-pātra) and flowers 
constantly”.

        Bhikṣā(भिक्षा) refers to “accepting food”(e.g., from a single house), 
according to the Vṛṣasārasaṃgraha: {KR  Single house ; and if locked or denied 
onehas to survive that day without food. 

        bhikṣā (भिक्षा).—f (S) Alms or charity; money or foodgiven to beggars. 
v ghāla, dē. Pr. bhikṣā ghāla gē sāvitrī kōṇhī ghālatōkāya? Pr. bhikṣēśvara 
kiṃvā laṅkēśvara or, popularly, bhikēsarī kīṃ laṅkēsarī(I'll be) either the 
king of beggars or the lord of Lanka. 2 Applied to a boonor thing earnestly 
besought. Ex. tū kōṇhāvara rāgēṃ bharūṃ nakō ēvaḍhī malābhikṣā dē. (KR We do 
not feel that way is different; virtuallyliterally it is begging} (Remember the 
HIT Kokendru ninaithayo konkanava?) 

         Sanskrit-Englishdictionary    Bhikṣā (भिक्षा).—[bhikṣ-a] 1) Asking, 
begging, soliciting वृत्ते शरावसंपातेभिक्षां नित्यं यतिश्चरेत् (vṛtte 
śarāvasaṃpāte bhikṣāṃ nityaṃ yatiścaret) Manusmṛti 6.56. Daily

2) Anything given as alms, alms; भवतिभिक्षां देहि (bhavati bhikṣāṃ dehi).

5) A means of subsistence अपेतक्लमसंतापाः सुभिक्षाः सुप्रतिश्रयाः (apetaklama 
saṃtāpāḥsubhikṣāḥ supratiśrayāḥ) Rām.2.92.6.

          That is whyin Manu smirithi we see the distinction of OFFRED and 
BEGGING FOR ALMSdistinguished as :

Verse 4.248   SectionXIX - Accepting of Gifts

आहृताभ्युद्यतां भिक्षां पुरस्तादप्रचोदिताम्।

मेने प्रजापतिर्ग्राह्यामपि दुष्कृतकर्मणः ॥ २४८ ॥

āhṛtābhyudyatāṃ bhikṣāṃ purastādapracoditām|

mene prajāpatirgrāhyāmapi duṣkṛtakarmaṇaḥ || 248 ||

Alms brougt forward and offered, (ISTEADOF ASKING BHAVATI BIKSHAM DEHI} and not 
previously begged, Prajāpati has declared to beacceptable, even from a 
sinfulperson. — (248). [KR  If offeredvoluntarily even if it is from a shudra 
or chandaala please accept it is the sruthi;so beggingis avoided]

Medhātithi’s commentary (manubhāṣya):

The term ‘bhikṣā,’ ‘alms,’ has been used in anappreciatory sense; and it is not 
strictly alms that is meant here; though, in reality, the term‘alms’ denotes a 
small quantity of cooked food, —and it is on account ofsmallness of its 
quantity that its acceptance is not regarded as open toserious objection; 
Specially as, for the Student, it has been permitted as coming from all castes. 
Andwhat is meant by the present text is that other things also may be treated 
onthe same footing. The term ‘alms’ is often found to be used in this 
sense;e.g., in the Mahābhārata (1.206.1)—‘The two high-souled sons of Pṛthā 
went to Pṛthāat the carpenter’s shop and joyously informed her of their having 
received Draupadi as alms.’  ‘Brought forward’—to that place where therecipient 
stands. ‘Offered’—placed before the recipient, who is told, either bya gesture, 
or with actual words, to accept it. ‘Previously’—at any previoustime. In 
Periyava Bisha WE DO OFFER AND THEY AVOID TE BEGGING IS THE TRUTH FROMMANU. 

‘Not begged,’—not asked for by the recipient; nor promisedby the giver, either 
directly, or through someone else, to the effectthat,—‘such and such a thing 
there is in my house; please have the kindness toaccept it;’ only what is 
offered without premeditation, actually thought of atthe moment itself.Such 
alms ‘Prajāpati’—Hiraṇyagarbha—has declared,—what?—to beacceptable even from a 
sinful person,—the sinful person being one whose actionsare sinful—(248)

NB    Trying to always insult and somehow bend tofind fault as if 
knowledgeable, must be avoided ; and written such only afterreading thoroughly; 
or else may receive such notes as retort too {KR  GP wrote: “Mr Rajaram either 
in his own or incopying has misunderstood the term Biksha with alm. A Brahmin 
has to live by Dakshina, and Bhiksha. Alm is begging.Bhiksha is not begging.”  
And this showedas an authority which is proved now fatal; better to avoid such 
terms like onown or copying etc since he will get it back 100 times; better to 
stop exposingthe avivekam and the jalras. Thank you K Rajaram IRS}

On Thu, 23 May 2024 at 01:46, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Brahmins were not beggars, not at all.
It is just that the brahmins led a life of service and sacrifice, to live for 
the society as a whole and not ( or supposed to be not) for themselves alone 
and hence they did not seek wealth - except the wealth of knowledge. That age 
is gone, long gone.
In turn, society took care of all their needs - hence no need to amass wealth 
for themselves and their progeny. 
Society gave " Biksha" as a sign of gratitude. 
Drona and others like him, although experts on archery and others, did not sell 
their knowledge for a price. Brahmins are not supposed to sell their knowledge 
for a living but teach the qualified disciples who in turn gave them " Guru 
Dakshina," to show their gratitude. 
Guru Dakshina was not demanded but given voluntarily though we have the 
Mahabharatha say that Drona asked Arjuna, as Guru Dakshina,  to capture 
Draupada - to avenge the insult Draupada metedout to Drona.
As the Yugas changed so did the principles and practices and the Kanchi 
Mahaperiava has also lamented the fact that the brahmins have given up on their 
traditional duty but have taken up to business and othes, as a means of living. 
He said the day we started amassing wealth, our decline started.
Even now, we have the practice of giving " Biksha" to the Acharyas of Kanchi 
Mutt.That does not mean the Acharyas beg - it is our way of showing love, 
affection and respect.
Biksha Vandanam is not begging. They don't ask for it but we give.
N Sekar 
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  On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 9:47 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via 
KeralaIyers<[email protected]> wrote:    Respected sir,
The Vedic  principle was  that a Brahmin must be a Vedic scholar, he should 
perform his Nithyakarmas, and he should survive from what he get as Dakshina 
and if not sufficient by Bhiksha. He should not keep wealth. 
Nithyakarma include Vedic teaching and attending different samskaras. He gets 
Dakshina during samskaras. (How another Brahmin give sufficient Dakshina if he 
is not having wealth is CONFUSING.  Perhaps the kings awarded the Vedic 
brahmins with rewards as money. )

We have come far far away from the Vedic period. Vedic principles are amended 
by sages and not even followed by sages. 

Sage Vasistha was not ready to part with his cow Kamadhenu. Hence the war 
between sage Vasistha and sage Viswamithra. 
Even sage Jamadagni was not ready to part with Kamadhenu. Hence Karthaveerjuna 
had to start a war on him. 

Mr Rajaram either in his own or in copying has misunderstood the term Bhiksha 
with  alm. A Brahmin has to live by Dakshina, and Bhiksha. Alm is begging. 
Bhiksha is not begging. 

Till date we follow Bhiksha at least in principle during upanayanam. Ladies 
offer Bhiksha rice to the brahmachari for his survival. By talks it has come 
pichharisi. 

With regardsGopalakrishnan

    On Thursday, 23 May, 2024 at 10:19:03 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Dear Sri Sivaramanji              That is to be seen in depth and many had 
written an answer for it. Being a brahmin is not a crest; maybe I am trying to 
collect interconnected data. The Brahmin caste is not brahmin. Long ago when 
the quota issue arose in the Madras HC against DMK, I suggested the leading 
lawyer to argue that Brahmin is not a caste as stamped. Because my name is 
Chakravarthi, I dont own anything and cannot be presumed to be the owner as 
alleged. Brahmin is privacy. Given all, Drona was a Kshatriya born to a brahmin 
parent who might have been beggars following the principle. A PM cannot be 
rich, a king can. That is the difference. Maybe some time later I will connect 
them all. Our pride is our intelligence by DNA. That advocate did not 
understand. And we are being punished.But it is unconstitutional.  Thank you   
KR  IRS 23524
On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 23:26, Madras Sivaraman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I am not able to understand the concept that brahmins should always be beggars 
even though even during the mahabharata  war several brahmins were warriors 
like Drona, Kripa and others. There were mighty brahmin dynasties that ruled 
India.There have been brahmin warriors in our Indian armed forces who were 
decorated with the PVC, MVC AND VC apart from Ashok Chakras, Kirti Chakras and 
Shaurya Chakras.Why is there always this picture of Brahmins as beggars?
On Thu, 23 May 2024 at 07:03, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> 
wrote:


THUS SPAKE DRAUPATIPART4   22524  23524  

  “It isevident that you know that pleasure may be derived from the possession 
ofvarious objects of enjoyment. You also very well know their ordinary states, 
aswell as the great changes they undergo. At their loss or 
disappearanceoccasioned by decrepitude or death, arises what is called 
distress.That distress has now overtaken us. The joy that arises from the five 
senses,the intellect and the heart, being directed to the objects proper to 
each, iscalled pleasure. That pleasure is, as I think, one of the best fruits 
of ouractions. Thus, one should regard virtue, wealth and pleasure one after 
another.One should not devote oneself to virtue alone, nor regard wealth as the 
highestobject of one's wishes, nor pleasure, but should always pursue all 
three. Thescriptures ordain that one should seek virtue in the morning, wealth 
at noon,and pleasure in the evening. The scriptures also ordain that one should 
seekpleasure in the first portion of life, wealth in the second, and virtue in 
thelast. They that are wise and fully conversant with proper division of 
time,pursue all three, virtue, wealth, and pleasure, dividing their time 
duly.Whether independence of these three, or their possession is the better 
forthose that desire happiness, should be settled by you after careful 
thought.You should then act either for acquiring them, or abandoning them all. 
For hewho lives wavering between the two doubtingly, leads a wretched life. It 
iswell known that your behaviour is ever regulated by virtue. Knowing this 
yourfriends counsel you to act. Gift, sacrifice, respect for the wise, study of 
theVedas, and honesty, these, constitute the highest virtue and are 
efficaciousboth here and hereafter. These virtues, however, cannot be attained 
by one thathas no wealth, even if he may have infinite other accomplishments. 
The wholeuniverse depends upon virtue. There is nothing higher than virtue. And 
virtueis attainable by one that has plenty of wealth.

“Wealth cannot beearned by leading a mendicant life, nor by a life of 
feebleness. Wealth,however, can be earned by intelligence directed by virtue. 
In your case,begging, which is successful with Brahmanas, has been forbidden. 
Therefore,strive for the acquisition of wealth by exerting your might and 
energy. Neithermendicancy, nor the life of a Sudra is what is proper for you. 
Might and energyconstitute the virtue of the Kshatriya in especial. Adopt you, 
therefore, thevirtue of your order and slay the enemies. Destroy the might of 
Dhritarashtra'ssons with my and Arjuna's aid. They that are learned and wise 
say thatsovereignty is virtue. Acquire sovereignty, therefore, for it beholds 
you notto live in a state of inferiority. Awake, O king! and understand the 
eternalvirtues of the order. By birth you belong to an order whose deedsare 
cruel and are a source of pain to man. Cherish your subjects and reap thefruit 
thereof. That can never be a reproach. This is the virtue ordained by 
Godhimself for the order to which you belong! If you stray away from there, 
youwill make yourself look ridiculous. Deviation from the virtues of one's own 
order isnever applauded. Therefore, making your heart what it ought to be, 
agreeably tothe order to which you belong, and casting away this course of 
feebleness,summon your energy and bear your weight like one that bears it 
manfully. Noking could ever acquire the sovereignty of the earth or prosperity 
or affluenceby means of virtue alone. Like a fowler earning his food in the 
shape of swarmsof little easily-tempted game, by offering them some attractive 
food, does onethat is intelligent acquire a kingdom, by offering bribes unto 
low and covetousenemies.

“Behold the Asuras,though elder brothers in possession of power and affluence, 
were all vanquishedby the gods through stratagem. Thus, everything belongs to 
those that aremighty.Slay your foes, having recourse to stratagem. There is 
none equal unto Arjunain wielding the bow in battle. Nor is there anybody that 
may be equal unto mein wielding the mace. Strong men engage in battle depending 
on their might, andnot on the force of numbers nor on information of the 
enemy's plans procuredthrough spies. Therefore, exert your might. Might is the 
root of wealth.Whatever else is said to be its root is really not such. As the 
shade of thetree in winter goes for nothing, so without might everything else 
becomesfruitless. Wealth should be spent by one who wishes to increase his 
wealth,after the manner, of scattering seeds on the ground. Let there be no 
doubt thenin your mind. Where, however, wealth that is more or even equal is 
not to begained, there should be no expenditure of wealth. For investment of 
wealth arelike the ass, scratching, pleasurable at first but painful afterwards.

“Thus, the person who throws away, like seeds, a little of his virtue in order 
to gain a larger measure of virtue,is regarded as wise. Beyond doubt, it is as 
I say.They that are wise alienate the friends of the foe that own such, and 
havingweakened him by causing those friends to abandon him thus, they then 
reduce himto subjection. Even they that are strong, engage in battle depending 
on theircourage. One cannot by even continued efforts or by the arts of 
conciliation,always conquer a kingdom. Sometimes, men that are weak, uniting in 
largenumbers, slay even a powerful foe, like bees killing the despoiler of the 
honeyby force of numbers alone. Like the sun that sustains as well as 
slayscreatures by his rays, adopt you the ways of the sun. To protect one's 
kingdomand cherish the people duly, as done by our ancestors, is, it has been 
heard byus, a kind of asceticism mentioned even in the Vedas. By asceticism, 
aKshatriya cannot acquire such regions of blessedness as he can by fair 
fightwhether ending in victory or defeat.

“Beholding this your distress, the world has come to theconclusion that light 
may forsake the Sun and grace the Moon. Good menseparately as well as 
assembling together, converse with one another,applauding you and blaming the 
other. There is this, moreover, that both theKurus and the Brahmanas, 
assembling together, gladly speak of your firmadherence to truth, in that you 
have never, from ignorance, from meanness, fromcovetousness, or from fear, 
uttered an untruth. Whatever sin a king commits inacquiring dominion, he 
consumes it all afterwards by means of sacrificesdistinguished by large gifts. 
Like the Moon emerging from the clouds, the kingis purified from all sins by 
bestowing villages on Brahmanas and kine bythousands. Almost all the citizens 
as well as the inhabitants of the country,young or old praise you. This also, 
the people are saying amongst themselves,that as milk in a bag of dog's hide, 
as the Vedas in a Shudra, as truth in arobber, as strength in a woman, so is 
sovereignty in Duryodhana. Even women andchildren are repeating this, as if it 
were a lesson they seek to commit tomemory. You have fallen into this state 
along with ourselves.

“Alas! we too are lost with you for thiscalamity of yours. Therefore, ascending 
in your car furnished with everyimplement, and making the superior Brahmanas 
utter benedictions onyou, march you with speed, even this very day, upon 
Hastinapura, in order thatyou may be able to give unto Brahmanas the spoils of 
victory. Surrounded byyour brothers, who are firm wielders of the bow, and by 
heroes skilled inweapons and like unto snakes of virulent poison, set you out 
even like Indrasurrounded by the Maruts. As you are powerful, grind you with 
your might, yourweak enemies, like Indra grinding the Asuras; and snatch you 
fromDhritarashtra's son the prosperity he enjoys. There is no mortal that can 
bearthe touch of the shafts furnished with the feathers of the vulture 
andresembling snakes of virulent poison, that would be shot from the 
Gandiva.There is not a warrior, nor an elephant, nor a horse, that is able to 
bear theimpetus of my mace when I am angry in battle. Why should we not wrest 
ourkingdom from the foe, fighting with the aid of the Srinjayas and Kaikeyas, 
andthe bull of the Vrishni race?Why should we not succeed in wrestling the 
earth that is now in the hands of thefoe, if, aided by a large force, we do but 
strive?”

Thus, addressed by Bhimasena, the high-souledking Yudhishthira, firmly devoted 
to truth, mustering his patience, after a fewmoments said these words: “O 
Bhimasena! No doubt all this is true. Icannot reproach you for your torturing 
me thus by piercing me with your arrowywords. From my folly alone has this 
calamity come against you. I sought to castthe dice desiring to snatch from 
Dhritarashtra's son his kingdom with thesovereignty. It was thereforethat 
cunning gambler Shakuni played against me on behalf of Suyodhana. Shakuni,a 
native of the hilly country, is exceedingly artful. Casting the dice in 
thepresence of the assembly, unacquainted as I am with artifices of any kind, 
hevanquished me artfully. It is, therefore, that we have been overwhelmed 
withthis calamity. Beholding the dice favourable to the wishes of Shakuni in 
oddsand evens, I could have controlled my mind. Anger, however, drives off 
aperson's patience. The mind cannot be kept under control when it is 
influencedby hauteur, vanity, or pride. I do not reproach you for the words you 
use. Ionly regard that what has befallen us was pre-ordained. When king 
Duryodhanacoveting our kingdom, plunged us into misery and even slavery, then 
it wasDraupadi that rescued us. When summoned again to the assembly for playing 
oncemore, you know as well as Arjuna what Dhritarashtra's son told me, inthe 
presence of all the Bharatas, regarding the stake for which we were toplay.

“His words were, ‘O prince Ajatashatru! If vanquished, youshall have with all 
your brothers, to dwell, to the knowledge of all men, fortwelve years in the 
forest of your choice, passing the thirteenth year insecrecy. If during the 
latter period, the spies of the Bharatas, hearing ofyou, succeed in discovering 
you, you shall have again to live in the forest forthe same period, passing 
once more the last year in secrecy. Reflecting uponthis, pledge yourself to it. 
As regards myself, I promise truly in thisassembly of the Kurus, that if you 
can pass this time confounding my spies andundiscovered by them, then, this 
kingdom of the five rivers is once more yours.We also, if vanquished by you, 
shall, all of us, abandoning all our wealth,pass the same period, according to 
the same rules.’

“Thus addressed by the prince, I replied unto him in themidst of all the Kurus, 
‘So be it!’ The wretched game then commenced. We werevanquished and have been 
exiled. It is for this that we are wandering miserablyover different woody 
regions abounding with discomfort. Suyodhana, however,still dissatisfied, gave 
himself up to anger, and urged the Kurus as also allthose under his sway to 
express their joy at our calamity. Having entered intosuch an agreement in the 
presence of all good men, who dares break it for thesake of a kingdom on earth? 
For a respectable person, I think, even deathitself is lighter than the 
acquisition of sovereignty by an act oftransgression. At the time of the play, 
you had desired to burn my hands. Youwere prevented by Arjuna, and accordingly 
did only squeeze your own hands. Ifyou could do what you had desired, could 
this calamity befall us? Conscious ofyour prowess, why did you not say so 
before we entered into such an agreement?Overwhelmed with the consequence of 
our pledge, and the time itself havingpassed, what is the use of your 
addressing me with these harsh words?

“This is mygreat grief that we could not do anything even beholding Draupadi 
persecuted inthat way. My heart burns as if I have drunk some poisonous liquid. 
Having,however, given that pledge in the midst of the Kuru heroes, I am unable 
toviolate it now. Wait for the return of our better days, like the scatterer 
ofseeds waiting for the harvest. When one that has been first injured, 
succeedsin revenging himself upon his foe at a time when the latter's enmity 
has bornefruit and flowers, he is regarded to have accomplished a great thing 
by hisprowess.Such a brave person earns undying fame. Such a man obtains great 
prosperity.His enemies bow down unto him, and his friends gather round him, 
like thecelestials clustering round Indra for protection. But know, my promise 
cannever be untrue. I regard virtue as superior to life itself and a blessed 
stateof celestial existence. Kingdom, sons, fame, wealth,--all these do not 
come upto even a sixteenth part of truth.”

Bhima said: “Oking! Unsubstantial as you are like froth, unstable like a fruit 
falling whenripe, dependent on time, and mortal, having entered into an 
agreement inrespect of time, which is infinite and immeasurable, quick like a 
shaft orflowing like a stream, and carrying everything before it like death 
itself, howcan you regard it as available? How can he wait whose life is 
shortenedevery moment, even like a quantity of collyrium that is lessened each 
time agrain is taken up by the needle? Only someone whose life is unlimited or 
who knowswith certainty what the period of his life is, and who knows the 
future as ifit were before his eyes, can indeed wait for the arrival of an 
expected time.If we wait for thirteen years, that period, shortening our lives, 
will bring usnearer to death. Death is sure to overtake every creature having a 
corporealexistence. Therefore, we should strive for the possession of our 
kingdom beforewe die. He that fails to achieve fame, by failing to chastise his 
foes, is likean unclean thing. He is a useless burden on the earth like an 
incapacitatedbull and perishes ingloriously. The man who, destitute of strength 
and courage,does not chastise his foes, lives in vain, I regard such a one as 
low-born.

“Your hand can rain gold; your fame spreads over the wholeearth; slaying your 
foes, therefore, in battle, enjoy the wealth acquiredby the might of your arms. 
If a man slaying his injurer, goes the very day intohell, that hell becomes 
heaven to him. The pain one feels in having to suppressone's wrath is more 
burning than fire itself. Even now I burn with it andcannot sleep in the day or 
the night. This Arjuna is foremost in drawing thebow-string. He certainly burns 
with grief, though he lives here like a lion inhis den. This one that desires 
to slay without aid all wielders of the bow onearth, represses the wrath that 
rises in his breast, like a mighty elephant.Nakula, Sahadeva, and old Kunti 
areall dumb, desiring to please you. And all our friends along with the 
Srinjayasequally desire to please you.I alone and Draupadi speak unto you 
burning with grief. Whatever I speakunto you is agreeable to all of them, for 
all of them plunged in distress,eagerly wish for battle. Then, what more 
wretched calamity can overtake usthat our kingdom should be wrested from us by 
weak and contemptible foes andenjoyed by them?

“From the weakness of your disposition you feel shame inviolating your pledge. 
But, no one applaudes you for thus suffering such painin consequence of the 
kindliness of your disposition. Your intellect sees notthe truth, like that of 
a foolish and ignorant person of high birth who hascommitted the words of the 
Vedas to memory without understanding their sense.You are kind like a Brahmana. 
How have you been born in the Kshatriya order?They that are born in the 
Kshatriya order are generally of crooked hearts. Youhave heard the duties of 
kings, as promulgated by Manu, fraught withcrookedness and unfairness and 
precepts opposed to tranquillity and virtue. Whydo you then forgive the wicked 
sons of Dhritarashtra? You have intelligence,prowess, learning and high birth. 
Why do you then act in respect of yourduties, like a huge snake that is 
destitute of motion? He that desires toconceal us, only wishes to conceal the 
mountains of Himavat by means of ahandful of grass. Known as you are over the 
whole earth, you will not be able tolive unknown, like the sun that can never 
course through the sky unknown tomen. Like a large tree in a well-watered 
region with spreading branches andflowers and leaves, or like Indra's elephant, 
how will Arjuna live unknown?

      How also willthese children, the brothers, Nakula and Sahadeva, equal 
unto a couple of younglions, both live in secret? How will Krishna, the 
daughter of Drupada, aprincess and mother of heroes, of virtuous deeds and 
known all over the world,live unknown? Me also, everybody knows from my 
boyhood. I do not see how I canlive unknown. As well, mighty mountains of Meru 
are sought to be concealed. Then, again, many kings had been expelled by us 
fromtheir kingdom. These kings and princes will all follow the bad son 
ofDhritarashtra, for robbed and exiled by us, they have not still 
becomefriendly. Desiring to do good unto Dhritarashtra, they will certainly 
seek toinjure us. They will certainly set against us numerous spies in 
disguise. Ifthey discover us and report their discovery, a great danger will 
overtake us.We have already lived in the woods for a full thirteen months. 
Regards for theirlength as thirteen years. The wise have said that a month isa 
substitute for a year, like the pot-herb that is regarded as a substitute 
forthe Soma. Or you may free yourself from this sin by offering good savoury 
foodto a quiet bull carrying sacred burdens. Therefore, resolve to slay 
yourenemies. There is no virtue higher than fighting, for every Kshatriya!”

Hearing those words of Bhima, Yudhishthira began to sighheavily, and reflect in 
silence. He thought within himself: “I have heard the duties of kings,also all 
truths about the duties of the different orders. He is said to observethose 
duties truly who keeps them before his eyes, so as to regulate hisconduct both 
in the present and the future. Knowing as I do the true course ofvirtue, which, 
however is so very difficult of being known, how can I forciblygrind virtue 
down like grinding the mountains of Meru?”

Having reflected so for a moment, and settled what heshould do, he replied unto 
Bhima as follows without allowing him another word:“It is so as you have said. 
But, listen now to another word I say. Whateversinful deeds one seeks to 
achieve depending on his courage alone, it alwaysbecomes a source of pain. But, 
whatever is begun with deliberation, withwell-directed prowess, with all 
appliances, and much previous thought, it isseen to succeed. The gods 
themselves favour such designs. Hear from me somethingabout what you think 
should be immediately begun. Bhurisravas, Bhishma,Drona, Karna, the mighty son 
of Drona, Dhritarashtra's sons, Duryodhana andothers, so difficult of being 
vanquished, are all accomplished in arms and everready for battle with us. 
Those kings and chiefs of the earth also who havebeen injured by us, have all 
adopted the side of the Kauravas, and are bound byties of affection to them. 
They are engaged in seeking the good of Duryodhanaand not of us. With full 
treasures and aided by large forces, they willcertainly strive their best in 
battle. All the officers also of the Kuru armytogether with their sons and 
relatives, have been honoured by Duryodhana withwealth and luxuries. Those 
heroes are also much regarded by Duryodhana. This ismy certain conclusion that 
they will sacrifice their lives for Duryodhana inbattle. Although the behaviour 
of Bhishma, Drona, and the illustrious Kripa, isthe same towards us as towards 
them, yet, this is my certain conclusion that inorder to pay off the royal 
favours they enjoy, they will throw their very livesin battle. All of them are 
masters of celestial weapons, and devoted to thepractice of virtue. I think 
they are incapable of being vanquished even by godsled by Vasava himself. There 
is again amongstthem that mighty warrior, Karna, impetuous, and ever wrathful, 
master of allweapons, invincible, and encased in impenetrable mail. Without 
firstvanquishing in battle all those foremost of men, unaided as you are, how 
canyou slay Duryodhana? O Bhimasena! I cannot sleep thinking of the lightness 
ofhand of that Suta's son, who, I regard, is the foremost of all wielders of 
thebow!”

Hearing these words of Yudhishthira, the impetuous Bhimabecame alarmed, and 
forbore from speaking anything.

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