welcome sir mind attributes are wealth KR On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 19:54, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < [email protected]> wrote:
> Rajaram Sir, > You connect my writings with your wide learning.You elevate it to a higher > level.Sometimes I do not agree with you,but the sense of achievement your > response fills me up with selfc confidence, reinforces me spiritually. > YM > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 11:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> YM ji HE MOST UNSCIENTIFIC APPEARS TO BE THE CARTESIAN OR THE >> ANALYTICAL METHOD. Under this method you have to do the impossible >> thing—convert yourself into an observer and spectator of the subject >> matter, disconnect yourself from the general flow of the Universe. Can you >> separate yourself from the general electromagnetic activity or the universe >> in activity? You observe or you participate—you cannot do both. If you >> really disconnect yourself and start observing, the Universe leaves you >> behind and you have done the forever running to join the universe again. Is >> not this the ultimate fantasy, getting separated from the universe to >> observe it? Actually, in science we appear to be forever running behind the >> Universe the distance from the Universe continuously increasing as we have >> to stop participating and do the analysing which science ultimately is. >> >> Japan is second biggest economy in the world today. It ranks first in the >> world in suicides. >> >> The Physis (the root word of Physics) in Greek or the Brahman >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> KR A well thought out, to extricate from the sufferings as Buddha >> did. A utopian aspiration against the unpragmatic life run. How the world >> axis can be reversed? Will there be any use in closing the gate after the >> horses bolted? We, a few, who are ILICHAVAYONS @ GULLIBLES must try and >> end. Rest will make fun of us as pizhikkateriyadavan # one who does not >> know to get along. End. >> >> The theory of akarshana found by our ancestors and Newton >> were done only by living in the world; of course, even today HUBBLE reports >> many; even yesterday a photo was published; and sitting here only. How one >> can be the seer the seen is philosophy. The satyaam is PHYSIS the brahmam, >> cannot be seen from outside and away from. However, the part of PHYSIS can >> be seen partially as long as we feel we are dual. Duality is a training >> court; an institute; where that kind of perception is coached; in MAYA, we >> think they are real. Have we not seen our children playing with toys as if >> alive, and then threw it off as if dead? The SEER is like a child. The mind >> advocates the seer what he wants to see. And confirms that thee is the >> SEEN, Hence seen is changed regularly scientifically. >> >> What is the time taken to see the seen, by the Seer? >> >> bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate >> >> vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma su-durlabhah >> >> BG 7.19: After many births of spiritual practice, one who is endowed with >> knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be all that is. Such a great >> soul is indeed very rare. >> >> WHAT IS THE KNOWLEDGE TO ACQUIRE TO SEE THE SEEN BY THE SEER? >> >> amanitvam adambhitvam ahinsa kshantir arjavam >> >> acharyopasanam shaucham sthairyam atma-vinigrahah >> >> indriyartheshu vairagyam anahankara eva cha >> >> janma-mrityu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-doshanudarshanam >> >> asaktir anabhishvangah putra-dara-grihadishu >> >> nityam cha sama-chittatvam ishtanishtopapattishu >> >> mayi chananya-yogena bhaktir avyabhicharini >> >> vivikta-desha-sevitvam aratir jana-sansadi >> >> adhyatma-jnana-nityatvam tattva-jnanartha-darshanam >> >> etaj jnanam iti proktam ajnanam yad ato ’nyatha >> >> BG 13.8-12: Humbleness; freedom from hypocrisy; non-violence; >> forgiveness; simplicity; service of the Guru; cleanliness of body and mind; >> steadfastness; and self-control; dispassion toward the objects of the >> senses; absence of egotism; keeping in mind the evils of birth, disease, >> old age, and death; non-attachment; absence of clinging to spouse, >> children, home, and so on; even-mindedness amidst desired and undesired >> events in life; constant and exclusive devotion toward Me; an inclination >> for solitary places and an aversion for mundane society; constancy in >> spiritual knowledge; and philosophical pursuit of the Absolute Truth—all >> these I declare to be knowledge, and what is contrary to it, I call >> ignorance. >> >> So as long as so many papers have to be cleared without >> arrears, well it stays only as an Utopia. >> >> WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF SUICIDES? >> >> Suicide is a complex phenomenon influenced by a variety of factors. >> Causes of suicide can vary widely depending on individual circumstances, >> mental health issues, social, economic, and cultural factors. {4:1} Here >> are some common causes associated with suicides: >> >> Mental Health Disorders: Mental illnesses such as depression, >> bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and substance abuse disorders are >> significant risk factors for suicide. >> >> Personal Crisis: Experiencing a personal crisis such as a loss of a >> loved one, relationship problems, financial difficulties, legal troubles, >> or academic or professional failures can lead to feelings of hopelessness >> and despair. >> >> Trauma and Abuse: Individuals who have experienced trauma, abuse >> (physical, emotional, or sexual), or neglect may struggle with ongoing >> psychological distress and may be at increased risk of suicide. >> >> Chronic Illness or Pain: Chronic physical illnesses, disabilities, >> or debilitating pain conditions can lead to significant emotional distress >> and contribute to suicidal thoughts and behaviours. >> >> Social Isolation: Feelings of loneliness, social isolation, or a >> lack of social support networks can exacerbate mental health issues and >> increase the risk of suicide, especially in vulnerable individuals. >> >> Stigma and Discrimination: Discrimination based on factors such as >> race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity, or socioeconomic >> status can contribute to feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness, >> increasing the risk of suicide. >> >> Access to Lethal Means: Easy access to firearms, medications, or >> other lethal means increases the likelihood of impulsive suicide attempts. >> >> Family History: A family history of suicide or mental illness can >> increase an individual's susceptibility to suicidal behavior through >> genetic, environmental, and learned factors. >> >> Cultural and Religious Factors: Cultural norms, beliefs, and >> attitudes toward mental health, suicide, and help-seeking behavior can >> influence an individual's willingness to seek support and may contribute to >> suicidal ideation. >> >> It's essential to recognize that suicide is rarely caused by a >> single factor and often involves a combination of risk factors interacting >> with stressful life circumstances. Preventing suicide requires >> comprehensive approaches that address underlying mental health issues, >> promote resilience, foster supportive environments, and reduce stigma >> surrounding mental illness and help-seeking behaviour. >> >> No one committed suicide because economically strong or weak. >> Since Economic factor will not drive any one to live happily or not, since >> we see hutwallahs are happier than us; this “THAN” is the factor; >> Tiruvalluar said that Mayir neepin vazhak kavariman annar uyir neepper >> manan Varin= Reindeer like with the horns will die when caught in the >> quagmire; so too one who lives by Prestige alone will commit suicide for >> the economic factor. Today they are rare. Here Pride is felt as a woman >> assumes that the whole world is only watching her child bearing history and >> will laugh, =is a psychological misconception flooded with the >> frustrations. So Jaapan suicides have several manifested factors; and why >> not India too such factors. >> >> Yes the truth is all are manifestations of the Brahmam and >> Boudeekam also (Physis) . भौतिकशास्त्रम्. 1) Baudhi (बौधि):—[from >> budh] m. [patronymic] [from] bodha, [Pāṇini 4-1, 107 [Scholiast or >> Commentator]] 2) [v.s. ...] [from] baudhi, [ii, 4, 58], [vArttika] 1., >> [Patañjali] Buddhi (बुद्धि).—f. [budh-ktin] 1) Perception, comprehension. >> 2) Intellect, understanding, intelligence, talent; तीक्ष्णा नारुंतुदा >> बुद्धिः (tīkṣṇā nāruṃtudā buddhiḥ) Śiśupālavadha 2.19; शास्त्रेष्वकुण्ठिता >> बुद्धिः (śāstreṣvakuṇṭhitā buddhiḥ) R.1.19. 3) Information, knowledge; >> बुद्धिर्यस्य >> बलं तस्य (buddhiryasya balaṃ tasya) H.2.122 'knowledge is power'; >> P.I.4.52. Baudikam is from Buddi and hence manifestations of the >> Brahmam as Bru is to think. Bruyate satyam. K Rajaram IRS 27524 >> 28524 >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:25, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar**The Brahmin World or Physis-the essence of Reality (Repeat)* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Negative electricity is simply the flow of electrons. Positive >>> electricity is the flow of protons. Together they become atoms. The atoms >>> radiate energy or the light rays called the flow of photons. We all consist >>> of atoms or to be more exact, we are all fields where atoms enter and leave >>> continuously. We radiate thoughts. The photons enter the leaves of trees >>> called the photosynthesis. That is the first point to distribute the >>> photons in the shape of energies. The entire activity is the activity of >>> the photons. My curiosity is whether the flow of photons and thoughts are >>> one and same. Can thought control result in the control of matter or the >>> collections of protons and electrons? We are all after all electromagnetic >>> radiations. As individuals we have become separated islands of >>> electromagnetism from the general activity of electromagnetism. In fact we >>> are continuously subsumed in the general activity, to sprout again. Are we >>> like the picture on the TV screen, continuous succession of separate >>> individuals?* >>> >>> *According to Einstein we are all in reality moving at the speed of >>> light, slowed down by the impediments of materiality---length, breadth and >>> height. When we get rid of them, achieve the speed of light, we just become >>> time or infinity only. According to the Hindu sages, the entire life is >>> actually an illusion and all of us are striving to become free from that >>> illusion. IS NOT THE HOLISTIC METHOD OF YOGA, ESSENTIAL IN SCIENTIFIC >>> RESEARCH?* >>> >>> *THE MOST UNSCIENTIFIC APPEARS TO BE THE CARTESIAN OR THE ANALYTICAL >>> METHOD. Under this method you have to do the impossible thing—convert >>> yourself into an observer and spectator of the subject matter, disconnect >>> yourself from the general flow of the Universe. Can you separate yourself >>> from the general electromagnetic activity or the universe in activity? You >>> observe or you participate—you cannot do both. If you really disconnect >>> yourself and start observing, the Universe leaves you behind and you have >>> do the forever running to join the universe again. Is not this the ultimate >>> fantasy, getting separated from the universe to observe it? Actually in >>> science we appear to be forever running behind the Universe the distance >>> from the Universe continuously increasing as we have to stop participating >>> and do the analyzing which science ultimately is.* >>> >>> *As it is we are all stuck up in the visible spectrum which is less than >>> one per cent of the total electromagnetic spectrum in realty blind to the >>> reality. On the basis of the modelling in the cortex or mind from the >>> photons collected by the eyes, which we call seeing, we have developed >>> languages. The mind or the visual cortex invariably models the false three >>> dimensional shapes of length, breadth and height. It cannot model one >>> dimensional, two dimensional or more than four dimensional shapes. But >>> those languages do not have the words or grammar of relations in the >>> gigantic Micro-cosm. Is not the Holistic method--- concentration, >>> meditation, yoga, dance, painting, singing etc, more scientific?* >>> >>> *This is the life a Brahmin, continuously investigating and meditating >>> about the ultimate reality, wherein advanced physics, advanced cosmology, >>> Hindu Philosophy get integrated in the ultimate enlightenment—the Brahmin >>> World—the universe of spiritualism.* >>> >>> *Japan is second biggest economy in the world today. It ranks first in >>> the world in suicides. Every morning and evening thousands rush to the >>> bullet trains, all of them pressed in to the compartments by big wooden >>> logs. They spill out at the stations. In day today life they are getting >>> pressed in and spilled out, their individual existence obliterated. Is not >>> the Cartesian method doing the same thing—obliterating our individual >>> existence, by pulling us out from the universe to become the observers?* >>> >>> *Where is this science taking us in reality? Are we not poisoning >>> everything—land, water, air and ultimately our real existence. Very >>> brilliant people interpret the data given by computers, get scrutinized by >>> computers and then hand over their knowledge to us the ordinary people who >>> cannot understand. But they also give us various gadgets, which do the work >>> of our organs, making us feel comforted. Is this progress, making our >>> organs redundant because we make the machines do the work including >>> thinking?* >>> >>> *Can we not at least now as seniors attempt at Holistic Method, achieve >>> symbiotic rhythm with the universe and understand better the >>> electromagnetism? The Physis (the root word of Physics) in Greek or the >>> Brahman in Sanskrit means the ultimate and essence of reality.* >>> >>> *YM* >>> >>> *Chat GPT* >>> >>> *### The Brahmin World or Physis - The Essence of Reality* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***Introduction to Electromagnetism and Consciousness*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Electromagnetic Foundation of Reality*** >>> >>> * - Negative electricity, the flow of electrons, and positive >>> electricity, the flow of protons, together form atoms. These atoms radiate >>> energy in the form of photons. This process underpins much of our physical >>> reality.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Interconnection of Thoughts and Photons*** >>> >>> * - Photons, the basic units of light, are essential in processes like >>> photosynthesis in plants. This raises an intriguing question: are thoughts >>> and photons interconnected? Could the control of thoughts influence matter, >>> given our nature as beings composed of electromagnetic fields?* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***Einstein's Perspective and Hindu Philosophy*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Einstein's Theory*** >>> >>> * - According to Einstein, we are all moving at the speed of light, >>> slowed down by physical dimensions like length, breadth, and height. If we >>> transcend these dimensions, we might experience the universe as pure time >>> or infinity.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Hindu Philosophical Views*** >>> >>> * - Hindu sages view life as an illusion (Maya), and strive to >>> transcend it. This aligns with Einstein's notion of transcending material >>> limitations to experience a higher reality.* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***The Scientific Method: Cartesian vs. Holistic*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Limitations of the Cartesian Method*** >>> >>> * - The Cartesian or analytical method demands a separation between >>> observer and subject, which is inherently flawed. Disconnecting from the >>> universe to observe it can create a perpetual lag in understanding reality.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Holistic Approach*** >>> >>> * - The holistic method involves practices like concentration, >>> meditation, yoga, dance, painting, and singing, which may offer a more >>> integrated understanding of reality. These practices align with the >>> interconnected nature of the universe and our place within it.* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***Challenges of Modern Science*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Blindness to the Full Spectrum*** >>> >>> * - We are limited to the visible spectrum, which constitutes less >>> than one percent of the electromagnetic spectrum. Our languages and >>> perceptions are based on this narrow view, often misrepresenting the true >>> nature of the universe.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Technological Alienation*** >>> >>> * - The advancement of technology, while providing comfort, can >>> disconnect us from our natural capabilities and the holistic experience of >>> life. This raises concerns about the true direction of scientific progress.* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***The Brahmin World: Integration of Knowledge and Spirituality*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **The Brahmin Life*** >>> >>> * - The Brahmin life involves continuous investigation and meditation >>> on the ultimate reality. This integrates advanced physics, cosmology, and >>> Hindu philosophy into a pursuit of ultimate enlightenment.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **The Role of Spiritual Practices*** >>> >>> * - Practices such as yoga, meditation, and other forms of artistic >>> expression help achieve a symbiotic rhythm with the universe, potentially >>> offering a deeper understanding of electromagnetism and reality.* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***Contemporary Issues and the Cartesian Method*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Impact on Society*** >>> >>> * - The Cartesian method's focus on separation and observation can >>> lead to a fragmented existence, as seen in the pressures of modern life in >>> highly industrialized societies like Japan.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Poisoning Our Existence*** >>> >>> * - The current trajectory of scientific and technological progress is >>> leading to environmental degradation and a loss of connection with our true >>> nature. This calls for a reevaluation of our methods and goals.* >>> >>> >>> >>> ***Conclusion: Embracing the Holistic Method*** >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Seniors and Holistic Methods*** >>> >>> * - As seniors, there is an opportunity to embrace holistic methods, >>> achieving a harmonious relationship with the universe. This can lead to a >>> better understanding of electromagnetism and our place within the cosmos.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Physis and Brahman*** >>> >>> * - The Greek concept of Physis and the Sanskrit concept of Brahman >>> both point to the ultimate essence of reality. 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