Rajaram Sir,
Thank you very much.To respond to your enlightening and perception
provoking responses one needs great learning.Unfortunately I am not so
learned.
YM

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 7:59 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> In the intricate web of life, every species plays a unique role in
> maintaining ecosystem harmony. Human activities, such as deforestation,
> pollution, and habitat destruction, disrupt this delicate balance, leading
> to ecological imbalances and biodiversity loss. By recognizing our
> interconnectedness with nature, humans can strive to live in harmony with
> the Earth, embracing sustainable practices that support the health and
> vitality of ecosystems.
>
> Indigenous cultures around the world possess deep ecological knowledge
> passed down through generations, rooted in a profound understanding of
> divine symbiosis. These cultures offer valuable insights into sustainable
> living practices, resource management, and spiritual reverence for nature.
> By embracing indigenous wisdom and incorporating it into modern society,
> humanity can learn to coexist with nature in a more harmonious and
> sustainable way.
>
> As stewards of the Earth, humans have a sacred responsibility to care for
> the planet and all its inhabitants. This stewardship involves not only
> protecting natural resources for future generations but also cultivating a
> sense of reverence and gratitude for the gifts of the Earth. By embracing
> our role as caretakers of the planet, humanity can work towards restoring
> balance and healing the wounds inflicted upon the natural world.
>
> Divine symbiosis invites us to recognize the interconnectedness of all
> life and to honor the sacred relationship between humanity and nature. By
> fostering a deeper understanding of our interdependence, cultivating
> spiritual reverence for the natural world, embracing sustainable practices,
> and assuming our role as stewards of the Earth, we can work towards a more
> harmonious and balanced relationship with nature. In doing so, we not only
> ensure our own survival but also preserve the beauty and diversity of life
> for generations to come.
>
> {“Theism means the gigantic abstract flow of symbiotic rapture, on the
> surface of the earth, the basic feature of earth’s geography. If one enters
> the lush and free forest with the basic faith that every organism actually
> helps, that symbiosis rules the lives of all organisms, then Theism grows
> in one naturally and spontaneously. Your faith is smelt and sensed by every
> organism, which exhales in smells and informs their welcome. In nature
> communication is not in words but in feelings, sounds and tunes of nature
> all of which are part of the air.”}   NO GAINSAY about it, yet today no one
> is in the forest but lives only in the concrete Jungles. And of course,
> there is no suicide there but animal killing all in needs of food.
>
> {“God is not in any sacred religious text. In free nature God or Theism
> grows with age, every nano second in every organism. Musics and Dances
> sprout in great Biospheric symphonies.”}  A wonderful refined thinking,
> imagining the olden days of Aranya living. However, all the bhaktas are
> only living in the city. Modern life with the machines, Plants (Not Aranya)
> and whatnots. Bhakti, worship, breathing are all nothing to do with the
> olden styles as we have crossed the bridges. Even if KRISHNA were to be
> here, HE has to cope with all these.
>
> {“There is a need for comparison studies about the happiness of those who
> live in free nature with those that live in big cities. Suicides do not
> happen in thick forests and no organism has psychological problems.”}
> Happiness dwells in the minds. Living is not a criterion for happiness.
> Sat-Chit-Ananda can arise anywhere.
>
> {“Today thanks to science, technology, mechanization, industrialization
> and urbanization and total pollution, we believe only in machines and not
> in nature.”}   Not exactly. As we thank science, we have to hang the
> disbelievers of life with nature. Science never prompted nor any university
> to use the atom for the bombardments only. As everyone closes the doors,
> when we cite the rowdies and the Hooligans, by way of security, we use a
> positive knowledge also for our own security; if the nations do not do
> that, any one will protect them clause is absent. Even while closing the
> doors, we declare I AM ONLY FOR MYSELF AND WILL NOT COME TO YOUR RESCUE
> EVEN IF WIFE AND CHILDREN. We have such a refinement and call it decency.
> We teach our children if some nasty things happen, right under our nose,”
> DO NOT GO THERE AND GET HIT; THE WORLD IS NOT DEPENDENT ON YOU; YOU LOOK
> AFTER YOURSELF; YOUR GRAVE; HENCE YOU ARE SO DECENT”. Our civilisation is
> so ancient and is proud of; but we teach our posterity, only such
> civilisation nomenclature as,” don’t help anyone; if rowdy go off; it is
> indecent to fight for Dharma”. And yet we want someone else to risk and
> fight for us. So, fostering nature is needed; we have to initiate strict
> procedures. By going back to 1800 AD, nature may not be protected at all.
> K Rajaram IRS 5624   6624
>
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 19:50, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Mar*The Divine Symbiosis
>>
>>
>>
>> Divinity or Rapturous Symbiosis is the basic property of free and healthy
>> nature. Happiness grows into rapture when the happiness spreads. Each
>> organism participates and contributes to the macro rapture. Rapture or the
>> Theosphere engulfs the Lithosphere, Hydrosphere, Troposphere and the whole
>> Biosphere. The organisms’ inhale and exhale rapture. Rapture takes root as
>> the soil bacteria, from the parent earth matter being photon synthesized by
>> the sun.
>>
>> The basic fact is that every bacterium is part of nature’s symbiosis and
>> not of antibiosis. The rapturous ‘you’, means that the octillions and
>> octillions of bacteria in you are in rapture. You cannot live for a nano
>> second without the symbiotic bacteria in you. They are the soil root angels
>> in you.
>>
>> Theism means the gigantic abstract flow of symbiotic rapture, on the
>> surface of the earth, the basic feature of earth’s geography. If one enters
>> the lush and free forest with the basic faith that every organism actually
>> helps, that symbiosis rules the lives of all organisms, then Theism grows
>> in one naturally and spontaneously. Your faith is smelt and sensed by every
>> organism, which exhale in smells and inform their welcome. In nature
>> communication is not in words but in feelings, sounds and tunes of nature
>> all of which are part of the air. In free nature Theism and the basic
>> belief or recognition of God in continuously inhaled, exhaled, heard and
>> felt in nature as nature. Theism simply is geography, not logic that too
>> the Cartesian logic. And Courage as faith becomes the biological paradigm.
>>
>> God is not in any sacred religious text. In free nature God or Theism
>> grows with age, every nano second in every organism. Musics and Dances
>> sprout in great Biospheric symphonies.
>>
>> There is need for comparison studies about the happiness of those who
>> live in free nature with those that live in big cities. Suicides do not
>> happen in thick forests and no organism has psychological problems.
>>
>> Today thanks to science, technology, mechanization, industrialization and
>> urbanization and total pollution, we believe only in machines and not in
>> nature. From the foundation on machines are not emotional, but unnatural
>> and of course anti natural. When you use a machine to perform the work of a
>> limb of yours, the limb becomes redundant and frozen. It means that the
>> cells and the bacteria of the limb become frozen. The bacterial link of you
>> to the nature gets snapped. You die partially because; life means the
>> continuous functioning of the bacteria in you, the longevity of a single
>> bacterium being just twenty minutes. Your life actually consists of the
>> trillions of births and deaths of bacteria in you, each bacterium leading a
>> meaningful and purposeful life, the meaning and purpose being you, the big
>> macro universe to them.
>>
>> Once when nature was free and lush, Gods must have been sprouting
>> everywhere. That is why we find trillions of Gods in Hinduism the first
>> religion. May be Hinduism has its origin from the Cambrian explosion of
>> life forms that happened 538 million years ago. The explosion of life forms
>> then must have created the explosion of Gods, Gods as nature.Hiduism can
>> survive only if it is based on the soil bacteria.
>>
>> Unfortunately we have the freak phenomenon of the so called defenders of
>> Hinduism asserting that Hinduism is another Cartesian or Newtonian science.
>> The astounding Temples of Hinduism were nature inspired not mechanically
>> constructed as per the principles of modern construction engineering.
>>
>> Once a Temple actually created the explosion of life forms, continuing
>> the Cambrian explosion. But today we have the freak Temple cities, holiday
>> resorts,etc which destroy nature and just block the entrance of God into
>> the Temples.
>>
>> Temples and Free nature go together. Temples get destroyed when there are
>> hotels and commercial establishments there.
>>
>> There is a great crisis created need to revive nature on the terms of
>> nature that is without human tampering. Gods sprout from free and healthy
>> nature only and of course never from the science laboratories. God is
>> abstract feeling, the feeling of revelations from free nature, not a
>> factory product.
>>
>> It is for the Universities to start the free nature parks, where there is
>> no human tampering.
>>
>> YM
>>
>> Chat GPT
>>
>> "The Divine Symbiosis"
>>
>>
>>
>> The concept of divinity or rapturous symbiosis, as posited, is deeply
>> rooted in the intrinsic and harmonious relationships that flourish within a
>> free and healthy natural world. This idea suggests that happiness, when
>> shared and spread, amplifies into rapture—a state of profound bliss and
>> unity that transcends individual organisms and permeates the entire
>> ecosystem. Every living being, from the smallest bacterium to the largest
>> organism, contributes to this collective rapture, creating a Theosphere
>> that envelops and enriches the lithosphere, hydrosphere, troposphere, and
>> biosphere.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the core of this symbiosis is the fundamental understanding that each
>> bacterium is an integral part of nature's collaborative existence, rather
>> than a source of conflict or disease (antibiosis). The symbiotic bacteria
>> within us are not only essential for our survival but also for our sense of
>> well-being and connection to the larger web of life. These "soil root
>> angels" within us, originating from the earth and energized by the sun,
>> embody the essence of rapture and life itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Theism, in this framework, is perceived as the grand, abstract flow of
>> this symbiotic rapture across the Earth's surface. By entering a lush,
>> untamed forest with the faith that every organism contributes positively to
>> the whole, one can naturally and spontaneously cultivate a deep sense of
>> Theism. This faith is not articulated through words but through feelings,
>> sounds, and the harmonious symphony of nature. In this environment, Theism
>> becomes an experiential reality, interwoven with the geography and
>> biological processes of the Earth, rather than a construct of human logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> The notion of God, therefore, is not confined to sacred religious texts
>> but is continuously manifested and experienced in the free and unspoiled
>> natural world. This divine experience grows organically with every breath
>> and every moment spent in nature, leading to a spontaneous celebration of
>> life through music, dance, and the vibrant symphonies of the biosphere.
>>
>>
>>
>> A stark contrast is drawn between the happiness of those living in free,
>> natural environments and those in heavily urbanized settings. In unspoiled
>> forests, psychological distress and suicides are virtually non-existent,
>> suggesting that the natural symbiosis contributes significantly to mental
>> well-being. Conversely, modern science, technology, mechanization,
>> industrialization, urbanization, and pollution have created an environment
>> where machines dominate, and our connection to nature is severed. This
>> disconnection freezes the natural functions of our limbs and the bacteria
>> within, leading to a partial death as the bacterial symbiosis that sustains
>> us is disrupted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Historically, lush and free nature might have given rise to numerous
>> deities, as reflected in Hinduism, the world's oldest religion. The
>> multitude of gods in Hinduism can be seen as a manifestation of the
>> abundant life forms that emerged during the Cambrian explosion, symbolizing
>> nature's diverse and dynamic spirit. The construction of ancient Hindu
>> temples was inspired by and in harmony with nature, fostering an
>> environment where life could flourish.
>>
>>
>>
>> In stark contrast, modern temple cities and commercial establishments
>> disrupt this natural harmony, blocking the divine essence that once flowed
>> freely into these sacred spaces. To restore this balance, there is an
>> urgent need to revive nature on its own terms, without human interference.
>> Gods and divinity arise from free and healthy nature, not from artificial
>> constructs or scientific laboratories. Universities and institutions should
>> take the lead in establishing nature parks where human influence is
>> minimized, allowing the natural world to thrive and reveal its divine
>> essence.
>>
>>
>>
>> In essence, "The Divine Symbiosis" calls for a profound reconnection with
>> nature, recognizing that true divinity and rapture are inherent in the
>> natural world's unspoiled and harmonious existence. By nurturing this
>> connection, humanity can rediscover the deep, symbiotic relationships that
>> sustain life and the divine presence that permeates all of nature.
>>
>

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