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On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 at 20:07, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > "*The (Vidoora) Ne**ethi is narrated in the form of a conversation > between Vidura and King Dhritarashtra in the great epic and is often cited > as the precursor of the more famous Chanakya Neeti.*" > (K Rajaram ex-IRS 6724 7724 from USA) > > My comments:- > > Chaanakya was a much-learned Brahmana philosopher and adviser to kings. > > On the contrary, blind Dritharaashtra and Vidoora were illegitimate sons > of illegitimate Vyaasa who, on the order of his > illegitimate mother Durganthi, raped/committed adultery respectively with > Ambika, > widow of dead King Vichithraveeriyan, and with the maid-servant of Ambika's > sister Ambaalika, also widow of dead King Vichithraveeriyan. > > This is one of the reasons why the controversial Mahaabhaarthm of > Vyaasa is seldom kept in Braahmana homes or read by them. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 8:16 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> VIDURA NEETHI UPAYOGA PARVA Mahabharatham Vidura and Dridharashtran >> conversation >> >> It is really grand to find the vidura neeti today verse 1.28 from >> Mahabharatham Upayoga parva. And the verse in th opening speaks about the >> way of wiseman taking things and a fool reacting and acting. The teachings >> of Vidura in Mahabharata are called Vidura Neethi. It is in the Upayoga >> parva of Mahabharata that Vidura gives advice about various topics that >> are still valid to date and touches on issues like relationships, how to >> identify the reality of people, obtain victory and attain Moksha. In >> spite of learning all the neeti whether Vidura or BirthrHari or adi >> Shankara, Aviveki will act and react only in the unchanged manner. Some >> verses are given below in addition to Sri Jambunathan morning opening in >> India Sunday and ending day of Saturday at USA 6724 & 7724. >> >> The Neethi is narrated in the form of a conversation between Vidura and >> King Dhritarashtra in the great epic and is often cited as the precursor of >> the more famous Chanakya Neeti. >> >> Below is a selection of verses from Vidura Neeti with English >> translations that are still relevant today: >> >> Mark of a Wise Man >> >> आत्मज्ञानं समारम्भः तितिक्षा धर्मनित्यता । >> >> यमर्थान्नापकर्षन्ति स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >> >> Aatmajnaanam samaarambha stitikshaa dharmanityataa >> >> Yamarthaannaapakarshanti sa vai pandita uchyate 1.20 >> >> That one is wise who does not deviate from the higher goals of life, >> rooted as he is in Self-knowledge, endeavour, forbearance and adherence to >> dharma. >> >> यस्य कृत्यं न विघ्नन्ति शीतमुष्णं भयं रतिः । >> >> समृद्धिरसमृद्धिर्वा स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >> >> Yasya krityam na vighnanti sheetamushnam bhayam ratih >> >> Samriddhirasamriddhir vaa sa vai pandita uchyate 1.24 >> >> That one is wise whose actions or endeavours are not obstructed by *cold, >> heat, fear, love, affluence or poverty*. >> >> नाप्राप्यमभिवाञ्छन्ति नष्टं नेच्छन्ति शोचितुम् । >> >> आपत्सु च न मुह्यन्ति स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ TODAY QUOTE OF Mr JAMBU >> >> Naapraapyamabhivaanjhanti nashtam nechchhanti shochitum >> >> Aapatsu ch na muhyanti sa vai pandita uchyate 1.28 >> >> That one is wise who does not hanker after the unattainable, who does >> not worry over what is lost and who faces calamities without losing his >> senses. >> >> Tamil say: KITTADAYIN VETTENA MARA; UNATTAINABLE MEANS PASS ON. B G ALSO >> SAYS THAT STHITHA PRAGNAN WORKS IRRESPECTIVE O FTHE FAILURE OR SUCCESS. >> >> निश्चित्वा यः प्रक्रमते नान्तर्वसति कर्मणः । >> >> अवन्ध्यकालो वश्यात्मा स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >> >> Nishchitwaa yah prakramate naantarvasati karmanah >> >> Avandhyakaalo vashyaatmaa sa vai pandita uchyate 1.29 >> >> That one is wise whose endeavours are preceded by a firm commitment, who >> does not take long rests before the task is accomplished, who does not >> waste his time and who has control over his mind. >> >> न हृष्यत्यात्मसम्माने नावमानेन तप्यते । >> >> गांगो ह्रद इवाक्षोभ्यो यः स पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >> >> Na hrishyatyaatmasammaane naavamaanena tapyate >> >> Gaango hrada ivaakshobhyo yah sah pandita uchyate 1.31 >> >> That one is wise who does not rejoice when honoured, does not become >> dejected when dishonoured and is not swayed by emotions under the most >> trying circumstances. >> >> अर्थं महान्तमासाद्य विद्यामैश्वर्यमेव वा । >> >> विचरत्यसमुन्नद्धो यः स पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >> >> Artham mahaantamaasaadya vidyaamaishwaryameva vaa >> >> Vicharatyasamunnaddho yah sah pandita uchyate 1.45 >> >> That one is wise who, even after acquiring great wealth, learning or >> control over others goes about his job without being conceited in the >> least. >> >> BUT what does the fools do? >> >> Mark of a fool >> >> अमित्रं कुरुते मित्रं मित्रं द्वेष्टि हिनस्ति च । >> >> कर्मचारभते दुष्टं तमाहु र्मूढचेतसं ॥ >> >> Amitram kurute mitram mitram dweshti hinasti cha >> >> Karma chaarabhate dushtam tamaahur mooddha chetasam 1.38 >> >> That one is a fool who makes the enemy his friend, hurts and kills his >> friend and always engages himself in wrongful activity. >> >> सम्सारयति कृत्यानि सर्वत्र विचिकित्सते । >> >> चिरम् करोति क्षिप्रार्थे स मूढो भरतर्षभ ॥ >> >> Samsaarayati krityaani sarvatra vichikitsate >> >> Chiram karoti kshipraathe sa mooddho bharatarshabha 1.39 >> >> That one is a fool who spreads out his actions, *entertains doubts about >> everything* and takes a long time for actions which should be done with >> the utmost urgency. >> >> क्षिपत्यन्यान् हि दोषेण वर्तमान स्वयम् तथा। >> >> यश्च क्रुद्धत्यनीशानः स च मूढतमो नरः॥ >> >> Kshipatyanyam hi doshena vartamaanah swayam tathaa >> >> Yashcha krudhatyaneeshaanah sa cha mooddhatamo narah 2.43 >> >> That one is the greatest fool who finds fault with others when he himself >> has such faults and who gets angry when he himself has no control over the >> one at whom the anger is directed. >> >> OTHER GENERAL CATEGORIES >> >> न वैरमुद्दीपयति प्रशान्तं >> >> न दर्पमारोहति नास्तमेति । >> >> न दुर्गतोऽस्मीति करोत्यकार्य >> >> तमार्यशीलं परमाहुरार्याः ॥ >> >> Na vairamuddeepayati prashaantam >> >> Na darpamaarohati naastameti >> >> Na durgatosmeeti karotyakaaryam >> >> Tamaaryasheelam paramaahuraaryaah 1.117 >> >> That one is of sterling conduct and character who does not inflame the >> enmity which has cooled down, is not conceited and at the same time is >> not self-deprecating, does not engage in wrongful actions on the ground >> that he is passing through a difficult period. >> >> अष्टा गुणा: पुरुषं दीपयन्ति प्रज्ञा च कौल्यं च दमः श्रुतश्च । >> >> पराक्रमश्चाबहुभाषिता च दानं यथाशक्ति कृतज्ञता च ॥ >> >> Ashtaa gunaah purusham deepayanti >> >> Prajnaa cha kaulyam cha damah shrutam cha >> >> Paraakramashchaabahubhaashitaa cha >> >> Daanam yathaashakti kritajnataa cah >> >> Intelligence, noble birth, control of the senses, learning, valour, >> control on speech (not being talkative), giving to others according to >> one’s capacity and gratefulness – these eight qualities adorn a person. >> >> वाक्संयमो हि नृपते सुदुष्करतमो मतः । >> >> अर्थवच्च विचित्रं च न शक्यो बहुभाषितुम् ॥ >> >> Vaaksamyamo hi nripate sudushkaratamo maatah >> >> Arthavachcha vichitram cha na shakyam bahu bhaashitum 2.76 >> >> O King! Control on speech is considered to be one of the most difficult >> things to achieve. In fact, one will not able to speak much that is >> pregnant with meaning and is expressed in picturesque language. >> >> Iniya ulavaga innadha kooral kaniyiruppak >> >> Kay kavarndhatre Tirukkural. >> >> K Rajaram IRS 6724 7724 >> >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 at 18:22, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Vithur Neethi - Focus on Your Goal >>> >>> Naapraapyamabhivaanjhanti nashtam nechchhanti shochitum >>> Aapatsu ch na muhyanti sa vai pandita uchyate >>> >>> It is foolish for a person to long and works for things that are >>> unattainable, as one is wasting his efforts and time. Similarly, a person >>> who worries and loses his sense in difficult times cannot achieve his goals >>> because he will lose his vision. >>> >>> “A wise man doesn’t waste his effort and time after unattainable goals, >>> does not worry about things he lost and does not lose his sense in >>> difficult times”. >>> >>> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004 >>> >>> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you >>> become by achieving your goals. 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