Narayana you are in the abyss. You only said nonsense about Vyasa so not kept at home; do you have Ramayana?; Who wrote it a shudra ; then why do you keep it?; and KYV was compiled only by shudra characterless vyasa as you only assert; why do you do sandhyavandanam etc and keep the grantha also? AKM Narayana, you only assert and lie over the pig-ponds. KR
On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 at 23:00, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Is self-opinionated bluffologist disputing that:- > > (1) Durganthi, mother of Vyaasa, was the illegitimate product of the > union of a fish with a passing gandarva? > > (2) Vyaasa was the illegitimate product of the union of Durganthi with a > passing caste-less aged ascetic named Paraasara? > > (3) Vyaasa was born dark-skinned on a river island, hence was called > krishna > dvaiypaayana? > > (4) King Vichitraveeriyan died without children, leaving widows Ambikaa > and Ambaalikaa? > > (5) Durganthi ordered Vyaasa, who had taken a vow of lifelong celibacy, > to have sex with Ambikaa and Ambaalikaa? > > (6) As a result of these extra-marital unions were born blind > Dritharaashtra and mottled-skin Paandoo? > > (7) Being dissatisfied with her two defective bastard grandchildren, > Durganthi > ordered Vyaasa to have sex once more with Ambaalikaa? > > (8) Disgusted and outraged Ambaalikaa thereupon sent her shoodra > maidservant, Vyaasa, mistaking her for Ambaalikaa, raped/committed > adultery with the maid-servant, and Vidoora was born? > > (9) the self-opinionated bluffologist has a collection of more than 4,500 > books in his possession, and these contain adequate proofs attesting to the > above? > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:53 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Self opinions are not counted nor acclaimed that of Narayanasamy. Speak >> with evidence, content and knowledge Thank u KR >> >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 at 20:07, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> "*The (Vidoora) Ne**ethi is narrated in the form of a conversation >>> between Vidura and King Dhritarashtra in the great epic and is often cited >>> as the precursor of the more famous Chanakya Neeti.*" >>> (K Rajaram ex-IRS 6724 7724 from USA) >>> >>> My comments:- >>> >>> Chaanakya was a much-learned Brahmana philosopher and adviser to kings. >>> >>> On the contrary, blind Dritharaashtra and Vidoora were illegitimate sons >>> of illegitimate Vyaasa who, on the order of his >>> illegitimate mother Durganthi, raped/committed adultery respectively with >>> Ambika, >>> widow of dead King Vichithraveeriyan, and with the maid-servant of Ambika's >>> sister Ambaalika, also widow of dead King Vichithraveeriyan. >>> >>> This is one of the reasons why the controversial Mahaabhaarthm of >>> Vyaasa is seldom kept in Braahmana homes or read by them. >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 8:16 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> VIDURA NEETHI UPAYOGA PARVA Mahabharatham Vidura and Dridharashtran >>>> conversation >>>> >>>> It is really grand to find the vidura neeti today verse 1.28 from >>>> Mahabharatham Upayoga parva. And the verse in th opening speaks about the >>>> way of wiseman taking things and a fool reacting and acting. The teachings >>>> of Vidura in Mahabharata are called Vidura Neethi. It is in the Upayoga >>>> parva of Mahabharata that Vidura gives advice about various topics >>>> that are still valid to date and touches on issues like relationships, how >>>> to identify the reality of people, obtain victory and attain Moksha. >>>> In spite of learning all the neeti whether Vidura or BirthrHari or adi >>>> Shankara, Aviveki will act and react only in the unchanged manner. Some >>>> verses are given below in addition to Sri Jambunathan morning opening in >>>> India Sunday and ending day of Saturday at USA 6724 & 7724. >>>> >>>> The Neethi is narrated in the form of a conversation between Vidura and >>>> King Dhritarashtra in the great epic and is often cited as the precursor of >>>> the more famous Chanakya Neeti. >>>> >>>> Below is a selection of verses from Vidura Neeti with English >>>> translations that are still relevant today: >>>> >>>> Mark of a Wise Man >>>> >>>> आत्मज्ञानं समारम्भः तितिक्षा धर्मनित्यता । >>>> >>>> यमर्थान्नापकर्षन्ति स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >>>> >>>> Aatmajnaanam samaarambha stitikshaa dharmanityataa >>>> >>>> Yamarthaannaapakarshanti sa vai pandita uchyate 1.20 >>>> >>>> That one is wise who does not deviate from the higher goals of life, >>>> rooted as he is in Self-knowledge, endeavour, forbearance and adherence to >>>> dharma. >>>> >>>> यस्य कृत्यं न विघ्नन्ति शीतमुष्णं भयं रतिः । >>>> >>>> समृद्धिरसमृद्धिर्वा स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >>>> >>>> Yasya krityam na vighnanti sheetamushnam bhayam ratih >>>> >>>> Samriddhirasamriddhir vaa sa vai pandita uchyate 1.24 >>>> >>>> That one is wise whose actions or endeavours are not obstructed by *cold, >>>> heat, fear, love, affluence or poverty*. >>>> >>>> नाप्राप्यमभिवाञ्छन्ति नष्टं नेच्छन्ति शोचितुम् । >>>> >>>> आपत्सु च न मुह्यन्ति स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ TODAY QUOTE OF Mr JAMBU >>>> >>>> Naapraapyamabhivaanjhanti nashtam nechchhanti shochitum >>>> >>>> Aapatsu ch na muhyanti sa vai pandita uchyate 1.28 >>>> >>>> That one is wise who does not hanker after the unattainable, who does >>>> not worry over what is lost and who faces calamities without losing >>>> his senses. >>>> >>>> Tamil say: KITTADAYIN VETTENA MARA; UNATTAINABLE MEANS PASS ON. B G >>>> ALSO SAYS THAT STHITHA PRAGNAN WORKS IRRESPECTIVE O FTHE FAILURE OR >>>> SUCCESS. >>>> >>>> निश्चित्वा यः प्रक्रमते नान्तर्वसति कर्मणः । >>>> >>>> अवन्ध्यकालो वश्यात्मा स वै पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >>>> >>>> Nishchitwaa yah prakramate naantarvasati karmanah >>>> >>>> Avandhyakaalo vashyaatmaa sa vai pandita uchyate 1.29 >>>> >>>> That one is wise whose endeavours are preceded by a firm commitment, >>>> who does not take long rests before the task is accomplished, who does not >>>> waste his time and who has control over his mind. >>>> >>>> न हृष्यत्यात्मसम्माने नावमानेन तप्यते । >>>> >>>> गांगो ह्रद इवाक्षोभ्यो यः स पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >>>> >>>> Na hrishyatyaatmasammaane naavamaanena tapyate >>>> >>>> Gaango hrada ivaakshobhyo yah sah pandita uchyate 1.31 >>>> >>>> That one is wise who does not rejoice when honoured, does not become >>>> dejected when dishonoured and is not swayed by emotions under the most >>>> trying circumstances. >>>> >>>> अर्थं महान्तमासाद्य विद्यामैश्वर्यमेव वा । >>>> >>>> विचरत्यसमुन्नद्धो यः स पण्डित उच्यते ॥ >>>> >>>> Artham mahaantamaasaadya vidyaamaishwaryameva vaa >>>> >>>> Vicharatyasamunnaddho yah sah pandita uchyate 1.45 >>>> >>>> That one is wise who, even after acquiring great wealth, learning or >>>> control over others goes about his job without being conceited in the >>>> least. >>>> >>>> BUT what does the fools do? >>>> >>>> Mark of a fool >>>> >>>> अमित्रं कुरुते मित्रं मित्रं द्वेष्टि हिनस्ति च । >>>> >>>> कर्मचारभते दुष्टं तमाहु र्मूढचेतसं ॥ >>>> >>>> Amitram kurute mitram mitram dweshti hinasti cha >>>> >>>> Karma chaarabhate dushtam tamaahur mooddha chetasam 1.38 >>>> >>>> That one is a fool who makes the enemy his friend, hurts and kills his >>>> friend and always engages himself in wrongful activity. >>>> >>>> सम्सारयति कृत्यानि सर्वत्र विचिकित्सते । >>>> >>>> चिरम् करोति क्षिप्रार्थे स मूढो भरतर्षभ ॥ >>>> >>>> Samsaarayati krityaani sarvatra vichikitsate >>>> >>>> Chiram karoti kshipraathe sa mooddho bharatarshabha 1.39 >>>> >>>> That one is a fool who spreads out his actions, *entertains doubts >>>> about everything* and takes a long time for actions which should be >>>> done with the utmost urgency. >>>> >>>> क्षिपत्यन्यान् हि दोषेण वर्तमान स्वयम् तथा। >>>> >>>> यश्च क्रुद्धत्यनीशानः स च मूढतमो नरः॥ >>>> >>>> Kshipatyanyam hi doshena vartamaanah swayam tathaa >>>> >>>> Yashcha krudhatyaneeshaanah sa cha mooddhatamo narah 2.43 >>>> >>>> That one is the greatest fool who finds fault with others when he >>>> himself has such faults and who gets angry when he himself has no control >>>> over the one at whom the anger is directed. >>>> >>>> OTHER GENERAL CATEGORIES >>>> >>>> न वैरमुद्दीपयति प्रशान्तं >>>> >>>> न दर्पमारोहति नास्तमेति । >>>> >>>> न दुर्गतोऽस्मीति करोत्यकार्य >>>> >>>> तमार्यशीलं परमाहुरार्याः ॥ >>>> >>>> Na vairamuddeepayati prashaantam >>>> >>>> Na darpamaarohati naastameti >>>> >>>> Na durgatosmeeti karotyakaaryam >>>> >>>> Tamaaryasheelam paramaahuraaryaah 1.117 >>>> >>>> That one is of sterling conduct and character who does not inflame the >>>> enmity which has cooled down, is not conceited and at the same time is >>>> not self-deprecating, does not engage in wrongful actions on the >>>> ground that he is passing through a difficult period. >>>> >>>> अष्टा गुणा: पुरुषं दीपयन्ति प्रज्ञा च कौल्यं च दमः श्रुतश्च । >>>> >>>> पराक्रमश्चाबहुभाषिता च दानं यथाशक्ति कृतज्ञता च ॥ >>>> >>>> Ashtaa gunaah purusham deepayanti >>>> >>>> Prajnaa cha kaulyam cha damah shrutam cha >>>> >>>> Paraakramashchaabahubhaashitaa cha >>>> >>>> Daanam yathaashakti kritajnataa cah >>>> >>>> Intelligence, noble birth, control of the senses, learning, valour, >>>> control on speech (not being talkative), giving to others according to >>>> one’s capacity and gratefulness – these eight qualities adorn a person. >>>> >>>> वाक्संयमो हि नृपते सुदुष्करतमो मतः । >>>> >>>> अर्थवच्च विचित्रं च न शक्यो बहुभाषितुम् ॥ >>>> >>>> Vaaksamyamo hi nripate sudushkaratamo maatah >>>> >>>> Arthavachcha vichitram cha na shakyam bahu bhaashitum 2.76 >>>> >>>> O King! Control on speech is considered to be one of the most difficult >>>> things to achieve. In fact, one will not able to speak much that is >>>> pregnant with meaning and is expressed in picturesque language. >>>> >>>> Iniya ulavaga innadha kooral kaniyiruppak >>>> >>>> Kay kavarndhatre Tirukkural. >>>> >>>> K Rajaram IRS 6724 7724 >>>> >>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 at 18:22, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vithur Neethi - Focus on Your Goal >>>>> >>>>> Naapraapyamabhivaanjhanti nashtam nechchhanti shochitum >>>>> Aapatsu ch na muhyanti sa vai pandita uchyate >>>>> >>>>> It is foolish for a person to long and works for things that are >>>>> unattainable, as one is wasting his efforts and time. 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