---------- Forwarded message --------- From: N Sekar <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd To: Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. < [email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <[email protected]>, Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar < [email protected]>, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <[email protected]>, Srinivasan Sridharan <[email protected]>, Rama (Iyer 123 Group) < [email protected]>
It is extraordinary and also sad to note how a beautiful message has managed to create so much ill will. My explanation is not aimed at any single one but to all. The message in the Quote is simple and those who understand it right will have nothing to find fault with it. The simple message is - Nobody is superior or inferior and each brings his own unique talent to the table. Why should it create so much avoidable ill feelings? There is a beautiful poem explaining the same thing and it is called " The Mountain and the Squirrel". When the mountain brags it is so much bigger and stronger than the little squirrel, the latter ends her sermon with these beautiful words. " All is well and wisely put, if I can't carry forests on my back, neither can you crack a nut". Talents Differ and that's why the world functions smoothly. Imagine what will happen if everyone is an engineer or a doctor? Each has a talent and let us not take pot shots. Love and Respect need to be appreciated and reciprocated. N Sekar Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000945&af_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 6:52 PM, Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]> wrote: *You bastard thengalai pundey, i thought the devil had taken you to hell with your whore-mother. But you're still around, sadly. I too am back now, SoB, if you have the balls, reveal your whereabouts. I wiil come and beat the shit out of you, you eunuch-whore.* On Mon, 30 Sep, 2024, 6:35 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <[email protected]> wrote: Mr Gopalakrishnan then you keep on lamenting directly and indirectly? You do not read does not mean none read. If cat closes the eyes will there be darkness? K Rajaram IRS On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 6:26 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: Mr Rajaram, Reading your response makes me remember the Malayalam saying "Kinnam kattathu Jnan alla".( I have not stolen the bowl) Did I mention any where about you in my response?. No member in the groups ever appreciate either your forwarding trash or any response with the lines below the dignity of the position held or of your education. You are one of the members keeping below the status of a civilized or cultured member. Any correspondence with you is *fruitless.* Gopalakrishnan On Monday, 30 September, 2024 at 02:42:23 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: Well said By Mr Sekar wrt Mr Gopalakrishnan. Axe and blade are two different functionalities tools. Only idiots will try to use the tools wrongly. Definitely vandi on odam and odam on vandi means transportatiopns. A peon's place is outside the officer's room and one cannot sit exchanging their spots; also a peon cannot become an officer , even though an officer if he opts may serve even as a peon. Qualifications do matter. Unless there is relevant qualification for both and serves only temporarily, VANDI is VANDI & ODAM is ODAM; AE is AXE; BLADE is BLADE. Can an eighth standard become an officer? never. For that Bangalore Sai repeated only the Vedic words VIDYA DHADETHI VINAYAM. aDI sHANKARA ARGUING WITH SHOWING HIS KNOWLEDGE IS NOT N0-VINAYAM. The Sanskrit <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Sanskrit> word of excessive pride is Mada <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Mada>. It means excessive vanity about one's accomplishments including education, finances, family heritage or social status. It is one of the six formidable enemies of the mind <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Mind> which are not easy to conquer. Śankarācharya <https://www.hindupedia.com/index.php?title=%C5%9Aankar%C4%81charya&action=edit&redlink=1> defines this word in the following way - "*vidyaadinimittaatsvasmin aadhikyabuddhih*” meaning " The mental attitude born in the form of 'I am a great person. I am healthy, rich and a great soul and who is equal to me on this earth,' is spoken of as Mada <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Mada> or Pride by the learned ones." (We use the word mada sambrani is the root word of Mada) All pride is not bad. A true Sadhu does not even have these two types of pride but most of us are not Sadhus. The common person must have the following two types of pride, otherwise we are not even fit to be called human being. - *Constructive Pride:* Pride is not always bad and constructive pride is good. The latter helps us to overcome our - weaknesses so that we can excel in our work. Constructive pride in the overall performance of our sports or academic - team, for example, instills in us a sense of belongingness to the group and motivates us to put in our best in the team - effort for the victory of the entire team. When we take pride in our work, we try to improve our skills further, and put - in greater effort so that the task can be completed perfectly. Pride in our country can inspire us to practice and uphold - our glorious national heritage and traditions. But excessive pride can be destructive, especially when we try to make - others look bad or make then look small in comparison to us. This type of pride leads to arrogance, boastfulness and - conceit. For example, it is OK to be proud of our country, but this pride should not lead us to insult people from other - countries. It is acceptable to be proud of our cultural heritage and our religion, but we should not tease others by - saying that theirs is inferior. - *Self-Respect:* Secondly, pride does not mean that we should have no self-respect. If we allow everyone to humiliate - us and make fun of us, then they will do it even more and will totally crush us. Self-respect means that we walk away - from situations or people where we are insulted constantly. Continuing to stay where we are always insulted or making - friends with people who always tease us and criticize us can have a negative effect on our self-esteem. Such a person - will then lose confidence and faith in his own abilities because people around him are always criticizing, insulting and - ridiculing him. Bhagavān Krishna <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Krishna> therefore says that we should not be ‘atimānī’ (excessively proud) and instead we - should have just enough pride that is sufficient for self-respect. In His own life, when Duryodhana <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Duryodhana> invited him to a - feast, Krishna <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Krishna> chose to reject his invitation and go to Vidura <https://www.hindupedia.com/en/Vidura>’s home for a simple vegetable dinner saying, “We should - eat in other’s homes when we are in trouble, or when that other person loves and respects us. I am not in trouble - right now, and you have no respect or love for me.” The above distinctions are unknown to many as they generally think all quotes only to their advantages and as they think it fits. So having pride depends on that situation. Pride is not bad after all as long as it reveals the knowledge which would appear as bad pride ONLY TO THE NUTS. K Rajaram IRS 30924 On Mon, 30 Sept 2024 at 12:41, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers < [email protected]> wrote: Thanks Sri G K. I have heard Sri Sathya Sai saying " End of education is humility". Education should not make one haughty. Not to look down on others is said in so many different ways. That's why I argued no caste is superior or inferior. Each has it's own unique characteristics. Each has a role to play. There is a Tamizh film song " vandiyum oru Nal odathil erum, odamum oru Nal vandiyil erum" Meaning rules can easily be reversed. What goes up comes down and what is down goes up. N Sekar Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000945&af_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 11:02 AM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: Poor satisfaction as expected K. Rajaram IRS On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 10:59 AM 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < [email protected]> wrote: Dear Mr Sekar, I admire the last line. In our groups there are few members looking down on others. 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