Rajaram Sir, The sweep of your knowledge is now Wikipediac.But all that learning cannot and of course does not answer,whether multiplication is possible in the abstract nature,and whether nature repeats with identical products?My answer is no. YM
On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 11:30 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > We may be born to the same parents, but our parents have not given birth > to identical children. Just like us every organism has discrete features. > Shri YM ji > > KR Even twins are not. Identity iof were to be identical in all in > and out features of a parent child is THE SAME; then even twins though > partially appear to be outwardly identical, may not have the same > characters. This is due to the gene set inherited from the parents. Each > zygote receives half of the gene set of each parent while the gene set > received varies among them. Meiosis is the cell division process that > produces sex gametes that participate in forming offspring. Our features > or appearance are determined by our genes. In sexual reproduction half of > the genes come from each parent, and that's why offspring resemble their > parents but are not identical to them. As well as not being identical to > their parents, offspring are not usually identical to each other. Every > living thing has a genome which is the complete set of genetic instructions > to enable it to grow and develop. Each instruction, or gene, is represented > by a specific piece of a chemical called deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). Think > of DNA like a long piece of continuous code; sections of code represent a > gene. Genes determine the development and structure of organisms. Identical > twins – siblings with the same genetic information – are an exception. They > result from the fertilization of a single egg that splits in two. Identical > twins have exactly the same copies of their genes so they are always of the > same sex too because they have exactly the same information from each > parent. Non-identical twins result from the fertilization of two separate > eggs during the same pregnancy. > > Reproduction of living organisms can be sexual (offspring created > from the fusion of male and female reproductive cells – sperm and eggs) or > asexual (offspring created from a single parent). Asexual reproduction > creates an exact copy of a living thing. When we take a cutting of a plant, > for example, we’re making a clone of the plant. The cutting will have the > exact same genetic material as the plant it came from, so it will be > genetically identical. If you grow a plant from a leaf, a root cutting > (such as a carrot top) or a stem cutting, the plant that grows will be > genetically exactly like its parent. A plant grown from a bulb is also > genetically identical to the parent plant because it is the result of > asexual reproduction. Some plants (such as algae, mosses and ferns) also > reproduce asexually by releasing spore cells (carried by wind or rain) that > contain everything needed to grow a new plant without fusing to another > cell. Seeds, however, are produced from sexual reproduction so contain the > genes from two ‘parent’ plants. Skills, talents and behaviours are referred > to as acquired or non-inherited characteristics. In humans, examples > include things you learn or develop as you grow (e.g. riding a bike, > reading, playing an instrument) and through your experiences (e.g. an > injury at work that damages your hearing). Inherited traits in humans > include eye colour, hair colour and blood type, which are passed from your > parents. Variations or differences in characterstics of offsprings when > compared to their parents is due to different combinations of genes. The > genes of the parents may mix or combine differently producing different and > new characterstics. This is why we do not completely resemble either of our > parent. > > THEORY BIOLOGY: Two alleles for a given gene in a diploid > organism are expressed and interact to produce physical characteristics. > The observable traits expressed by an organism are referred to as its > phenotype. An organism’s underlying genetic makeup, consisting of both the > physically visible and the non-expressed alleles, is called its genotype. > Mendel’s hybridization experiments demonstrate the difference between > phenotype and genotype. For example, the phenotypes that Mendel observed in > his crosses between pea plants with differing traits are connected to the > diploid genotypes of the plants in the P, F1, and F2 generations. We will > use a second trait that Mendel investigated, seed color, as an example. > Seed color is governed by a single gene with two alleles. The yellow-seed > allele is dominant and the green-seed allele is recessive. When > true-breeding plants were cross-fertilized, in which one parent had yellow > seeds and one had green seeds, all of the F1 hybrid offspring had yellow > seeds. That is, the hybrid offspring were phenotypically identical to the > true-breeding parent with yellow seeds. However, we know that the allele > donated by the parent with green seeds was not simply lost because it > reappeared in some of the F2 offspring (Figure 8.5). Therefore, the F1 > plants must have been genotypically different from the parent with yellow > seeds. > > The P plants that Mendel used in his experiments were each homozygous > for the trait he was studying. Diploid organisms that are homozygous for a > gene have two identical alleles, one on each of their homologous > chromosomes. The genotype is often written as YY or yy, for which each > letter represents one of the two alleles in the genotype. The dominant > allele is capitalized and the recessive allele is lower case. The letter > used for the gene (seed color in this case) is usually related to the > dominant trait (yellow allele, in this case, or “Y”). Mendel’s parental pea > plants always bred true because both produced gametes carried the same > allele. When P plants with contrasting traits were cross-fertilized, all of > the offspring were heterozygous for the contrasting trait, meaning their > genotype had different alleles for the gene being examined. For example, > the F1 yellow plants that received a Y allele from their yellow parent and > a y allele from their green parent had the genotype Yy. > > > > So the amount of DNA in the world is estimated to be 50 trillion trillion > base pairs. This is equivalent to 5 followed by 37 zeros. {5^37} If all the > DNA on Earth were laid end to end, it would *stretch 30 million times > across the Milky Way.* DNA is found in the cells of plants, animals, > prokaryotes, and viruses. The amount of DNA in a given organism is > calculated by multiplying the number of cells in the organism by the amount > of DNA in each cell. DNA is made up of four chemical bases: adenine (A), > guanine (G), cytosine (C), and thymine (T). The order of these bases > determines the information used to build and maintain an organism. DNA is > packed into a smaller structure called a nucleosome, which is created by > winding DNA around histone proteins. DNA accessibility is important for > normal cellular function, and disruption of this can contribute to diseases > like cancer. The human genome is thus said to contain 3 billion > nucleotide pairs, even though most human cells contain 6 billion > nucleotide pairs. DNA is a double helix: Each nucleotide on a strand of > DNA has a complementary nucleotide on the other strand. Humans typically > have 23 pairs of chromosomes, or 46 chromosomes in total. Chromosomes are > made up of long strands of DNA, which contain all the body's genes. In > 2023, a draft human pangenome reference was published. It is based on 47 > genomes from persons of varied ethnicity. Plans are underway for an > improved reference capturing still more biodiversity from a still wider > sample.While there are significant differences among the genomes of human > individuals (on the order of 0.1% due to single-nucleotide variants and > 0.6% when considering indels), these are considerably smaller than the > differences between humans and their closest living relatives, the > bonobos and chimpanzees (~1.1% fixed single-nucleotide variant and 4% when > including indels) Hence, it is said we are all from monkeys; but is that > enough? ; DNA structure is common in all subject to cchacters may be a > right conclusion but not Darwin ytheory ,one from another. The total > length of the human reference genome does not represent the sequence of any > specific individual, nor does it represent the sequence of all of the DNA > found within a cell. The human reference genome only includes one copy of > each of the paired, homologous autosomes plus one copy of each of the two > sex chromosomes (X and Y). The total amount of DNA in this reference genome > is 3.1 billion base pair. > > Now we havce a connection to the astronomy (MACRO), ASTROLOGY, AND > AND VEDIC CONCEPT IN EXPLANATIONS OF UPANISHADS INCLUDING THE b g GUNA > KARMA VIBAGHA: > > Astronomers estimate that there are approximately 200 billion > trillion stars in the observable universe. This estimate is based on the > number of stars in the Milky Way and the number of galaxies in the > universe. DNA is more than the stars. AND ONLY A FEW DNAs ACTIVATE THE > FUNCTIONS IN YOUR LIFE AND SO MANY GO DORMANBT BUT READY TO BECOME ACTIVE. > In spite of so many in Micro, only a few is active and so many are dormants > which means only wrt the individual. That means in another, some other > combinations are active. So out of rillions of trillions, only a few > hundreds are active; so too among the billions of trillions a 7 seven alone > are active; even today, science could not decode or trigger the DNA pair or > otherwise; so how could they jibe at the sky where their knowledge is not > even the tip of the ice-berg? So Tirumular words as elicited from the Vedas > that hat is in Macro is also in the Micro-is correct. Your ancestors’ DNAs > are still available live. DNAs and the Atoms do not die. Hence only B G > speaks: > > Bg. 4.13 > > चातुर्वर्ण्यं मया सृष्टं गुणकर्मविभागशः । > > तस्य कर्तारमपि मां विद्ध्यकर्तारमव्ययम् ॥ १३ ॥ > > cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ > > guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ > > tasya kartāram api māṁ > > viddhy akartāram avyayam > > cātuḥ-varṇyam — the four divisions of human society; mayā — by Me; sṛṣṭam > — created; guṇa — of quality; karma — and work; vibhāgaśaḥ — in terms of > division; tasya — of that; kartāram — the father; api — although; mām — > Me; viddhi — you may know; akartāram — as the nondoer; avyayam — > unchangeable. > > According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated > with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And > although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet > the nondoer, being unchangeable. > > The Lord is the creator of everything. Everything is born of Him, > everything is sustained by Him, and everything, after annihilation, rests > in Him. He is therefore the creator of the four divisions of the social > order, beginning with the intelligent class of men, technically called > brāhmaṇas due to their being situated in the mode of goodness. Next is the > administrative class, technically called the kṣatriyas due to their being > situated in the mode of passion. The mercantile men, called the vaiśyas, > are situated in the mixed modes of passion and ignorance, and the śūdras, > or laborer class, are situated in the ignorant mode of material nature. In > spite of His creating the four divisions of human society, Lord does not > belong to any of these divisions, because He is not one of the > conditioned souls, a section of whom form human society. Human society is > similar to any other animal society, but to elevate men from the animal > status, the above-mentioned divisions are created by the Lord for the > systematic development of consciousness. The tendency of a particular man > toward work is determined by the modes of material nature which he has > acquired. Such symptoms of life, according to the different modes of > material nature, are described in the Eighteenth Chapter of this book. A > person in consciousness, however, is above even the brāhmaṇas. Although > brāhmaṇas by quality are supposed to know about Brahman, the Supreme > Absolute Truth, most of them approach only the impersonal Brahman > manifestation of GODs on millions. But a man who transcends the limited > knowledge of a brāhmaṇa and reaches the knowledge of the Supreme > Personality of Godhead, becomes a person in consciousness – or, in other > words, a Viṣva. consciousness includes knowledge of all different plenary > expansions and is transcendental to this system of the four divisions of > human society, a person in consciousness is also transcendental to all > divisions of human society, whether we consider the divisions of community, > nation or species. कर्मण्यकर्म य: पश्येदकर्मणि च कर्म य: | > > स बुद्धिमान्मनुष्येषु स युक्त: कृत्स्नकर्मकृत् || 18||4 > > karmaṇyakarma yaḥ paśhyed akarmaṇi cha karma yaḥ > > sa buddhimān manuṣhyeṣhu sa yuktaḥ kṛitsna-karma-kṛit > > BG 4.18: Those who see action in inaction and inaction in action are truly > wise amongst humans. Although performing all kinds of actions, they are > yogis and masters of all their actions. > > B G 4 13 and 18 seals all science facts of today and that may arise > in future. > > K RAJARAM IRS 91124 > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Markendeya Yeddanapudi <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 at 06:40 > Subject: Truth-Multiplication > To: ggroup <[email protected]>, thatha patty < > [email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > Satyanarayana Kunamneni <[email protected]>, viswanatham vangapally < > [email protected]>, kantamaneni baburajendra prasad < > [email protected]>, <[email protected]>, Ramanathan > Manavasi <[email protected]>, Nehru Prasad <[email protected]>, > Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > Kunamneni Satyanarayana <[email protected]>, Jayathi Murthy < > [email protected]>, A. Akkineni <[email protected]>, Anisha > Yeddanapudi <[email protected]>, Aparna Attili < > [email protected]>, dr anandam <[email protected]>, Krishna > Yeddanapudi <[email protected]>, Padma Priya <[email protected]>, > Usha <[email protected]>, Krishnamacharyulu Nanduri < > [email protected]>, Ravindra Kumar Bhuwalka <[email protected]>, > Ramu S <[email protected]>, tnc rangarajan <[email protected]>, > Ramamurti PV <[email protected]> > > > I am facing problems with Chat GPT.I am now posting my write up without > commentary from Chat GPT. > > > > -- > *Mar*Truth-Mathematical Reductionism-Multiplication > > > > Mathematics is identified as the method for accuracy and precision, where > there is no contamination of bias. Now let us deal with one of the > foundational pillars of Mathematics-Multiplication. Multiplication means > increase in number by multiplying with a factor. It means increasing the > same phenomenon, into phenomena, where every phenomenon is exactly the same > and identical. It means that the Universe continuously repeats, with no > change. > > All Mathematics is based on the visible 3D spectrum which is just 00.0037% > of the totality, while the remaining 99.9963% is put under the ‘Time’ > dimension, where accurate Languaging and quantification is impossible. We > may to some extent word our feelings, but we cannot quantify them. Our > feelings and emotions actually synchronize with changing nature, and they > continuously change as part of the universe. They do not repeat, unless one > is struck up in some mental ailment. > > Actually no two organisms are identical; they are discrete with subtle > differences. Nature continuously uses discretion to create discrete life > forms. Multiplication actually repudiates this basic feature of > nature-nature’s discretion in creation. Discretion and identical uniformity > in creation do not go together. It is like Raphael’s tapestry, which is > based on continuous change where the designs do not repeat. Every bit is > different from every other bit. Raphael repeats nature’s discretion. > > We may be born to the same parents, but our parents have not given birth > to identical children. Just like us every organism has discrete features. > > Only the manufacturing factories produce identical products, but nature > does not. No factory can produce emotions and feelings. > > Nature does not define and scope. It creates discrete discretions, each > discretion different from other discretions. With our sciences of > definitions and scopes and mechanization we are killing nature’s discretion > which we call evolution, mutation etc.Evolution evolves differences not > identities. Our factories actually arrest nature’s freedom for evolution. > Only life forms participate in nature’s evolution, not Robots. > > Today we have cyborged our lives, cyborging nature and rapidly moving > towards the total takeover by Robots, where only Mathematics is > accepted.Emotions,Feelings and Mathematics do not go together. We cannot > have Emotion and Feeling Factories. > > Our Universities having abjectly surrendered to mechanization, > industrialization and commercialization lost their basic capacity to > interact directly with nature. They need free nature without human > tampering from the techno lunacy afflicting them. > > YM Sarma > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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