-- *Mar**The False Convergence*
*“Scientific knowledge of the Self is not real knowledge...Self knowledge is possible only...when scientific studies come to an end,(and the scientists) lay down all their gadgets of experimentation, and confess that they cannot continue their researches any further....” (D.T.Suzuki) Modern science depends on analysis, mathematical reductionism, and mathematical relationships in terms of equations...in short in divisions and equations, that too after separating one as the observer from the subject matter of observation. Its foundation is the removal of feelings, emotions, bias, attachments, and the attainment of mechanical neutrality in mentality. There is just no possibility of any convergence at all, between the Holistic Approach and the Cartesian division, sub divisions, sub division of sub divisions... an unending process. This process truly results in the extinction of the observer and the total take over by the inanimate machines. * *This is the real process that is taking over the world today...the gradual replacement by machines for the performance of the work to be carried out by the organs.Hands,Legs and most important thought...all are surrendered to the machines, and the computers announce the findings in mathematical vocabulary. Even war for mass killing has become office work, the employee goes to the office, directs the drones to kill the people most of them helpless till 5 pm, and then leaves for his non-home as the wife has divorced.* *One of the most freak phenomena is the emergence of people that talk about scientific spiritualism, something like altruistic sadism. Most of these are social climbers driven mainly by economic motivations, who wear their reading of various ancient texts for display and ...this is really appalling... murdering missions and ridiculing the missionaries. When their rotten skin is threatened, they cower. We have the live oxymorons, who tie themselves in knots.* *YM Sarma* *Chat GPT* The passage you've shared appears to be a critique of modern science, its methodology, and the growing reliance on machines in the contemporary world, while contrasting it with a deeper, holistic approach to knowledge that transcends reductionism. At its core, the passage addresses the tension between two fundamental ways of understanding reality: the scientific method, which is deeply analytical, reductionist, and often mechanistic, and the holistic or spiritual perspective, which emphasizes the interconnectedness of all things, intuition, and a more experiential form of knowing. The first part of the passage highlights D.T. Suzuki's view that true self-knowledge goes beyond the boundaries of scientific inquiry. Science, according to Suzuki, can never fully grasp the essence of the self because it operates on the principles of objectivity, observation, and analysis. To truly understand the self, one must transcend these analytical tools, leaving behind the "gadgets of experimentation" that attempt to dissect and quantify everything, including human experience. In this view, self-knowledge is inherently beyond the reach of scientific methods. The author contrasts this with the modern scientific approach, which is based on division—dividing reality into smaller and smaller components in an attempt to understand it through reductionism. This process leads to what the author calls "extinction of the observer," where the person doing the observing becomes irrelevant or even invisible in the process. Instead, machines take over the role of performing the work once done by humans, replacing not only physical labor but also cognitive and emotional functions. This growing reliance on machines is described as a gradual surrender of human agency and a shift toward an increasingly dehumanized, mechanized world. The critique extends further to address what the author perceives as a troubling trend in society: individuals who blend spirituality with scientific discourse in a way that feels disingenuous or opportunistic. These "scientific spiritualists" are seen as social climbers, using ancient texts to justify their behavior, while simultaneously engaging in actions that contradict the core principles of those very teachings. The passage mocks the idea of "altruistic sadism," implying that these individuals may speak of higher moral or spiritual ideals while simultaneously acting in harmful, even destructive ways. Ultimately, the message is one of caution and disillusionment with the modern scientific and technological worldview. The author warns against a future where human thought and emotion are subordinated to machines, and where people lose sight of genuine self-knowledge and spiritual truth in favor of shallow, self-serving interpretations of science and spirituality. In summary, the passage is a sharp critique of the reductionist, mechanized nature of modern science, the increasing role of machines in human life, and the rise of opportunistic spiritualism. It suggests that in our pursuit of knowledge and technological progress, we risk losing touch with deeper, more authentic ways of understanding ourselves and the world. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCJeZ-mdRXjBzjwNNFUt%2BVxrm6qLUpq5UBs208GZ26MbhA%40mail.gmail.com.
