a moral story to flick the minds:

Swami Vivekananda, like his Master Ramakrishna, used to tell many stories
in his lectures and discourses to explain religious and philosophical
concepts and doctrines. The frog in the well or The story of two frogs is
such a story. Most probably Swami Vivekananda was not the original author
of the story, but he told this story several times in his lectures and
discourses.

☞ In this article you’ll find—

Swami Vivekananda original story “Frog in the well” and its versions.

Newspaper coverages and Swami Vivekananda’s quotes related to the story.

Why we disagree?

Swami Vivekananda told this story at the Parliament of the World’s
Religions on 15 September 1893. It was his second lecture at the
Parliament. He told—[Source]

I will tell you a little story. You have heard the eloquent speaker who has
just finished say, “Let us cease from abusing each other,” and he was very
sorry that there should be always so much variance.

But I think I should tell you a story which would illustrate the cause of
this variance. A frog lived in a well. It had lived there for a long time.
It was born there and brought up there, and yet was a little, small frog.
Of course the evolutionists were not there then to tell us whether the frog
lost its eyes or not, but, for our story’s sake, we must take it for
granted that it had its eyes, and that it every day cleansed the water of
all the worms and bacilli that lived in it with an energy that would do
credit to our modern bacteriologists. In this way it went on and became a
little sleek and fat. Well, one day another frog that lived in the sea came
and fell into the well.

“Where are you from?”

“I am from the sea.”

“The sea! How big is that? Is it as big as my well?” and he took a leap
from one side of the well to the other.

“My friend,” said the frog of the sea, “how do you compare the sea with
your little well?”

Then the frog took another leap and asked, “Is your sea so big?”

“What nonsense you speak, to compare the sea with your well!”

“Well, then,” said the frog of the well, “nothing can be bigger than my
well; there can be nothing bigger than this; this fellow is a liar, so turn
him out.”

That has been the difficulty all the while.

I am a Hindu. I am sitting in my own little well and thinking that the
whole world is my little well. The Christian sits in his little well and
thinks the whole world is his well. The Mohammedan sits in his little well
and thinks that is the whole world. I have to thank you of America for the
great attempt you are making to break down the barriers of this little
world of ours, and hope that, in the future, the Lord will help you to
accomplish your purpose.

K RAJARAM IRS 31224

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From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 10:28
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: google group
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Indian Rediff <
[email protected]>


Sir,

I have almost recovered from the virus zostar problem in my left leg and
sprains. I will be posting in the groups soon. I am proud of all groups
iyer123 is the healthy group and I am member in it.
Gopalakrishnan

On Tuesday, 3 December, 2024 at 07:45:08 am IST, Indian R <
[email protected]> wrote:


You are most welcome Mani sir - the intention was never to drive anyone
out. Just ONE person has forced me to place him in a position where he
cannot post any messages here. He was the singular cause of a lot of the
turmoil. After that, and after telling people that they should completely
AVOID CROSS-POSTING messages to multiple groups, the peace has returned
here.

Of course, the other groups have their issues - and a whole lot more
messages. But I don't really care about that.

What concerns me is my mortality - I wish some of our younger (relatively
speaking) members were able to also become owner/moderators of this group,
so that it does not suffer the fate of the Yahoo! iyer123 group. My
entreaties have gone in vain - mostly because everyone here is older than
me (I am a sprightly 62).

Sai

On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 mani wrote:

The atmosphere is simply great in our Group.  Thanks, Mr Sai for retaining
the members, even without their knowledge!  Best wishes,

Mani

On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 6:06 PM Indian R <[email protected]> wrote:

The simple fact that you are able to post here, shows that you haven't left
the group.

Welcome back to posting here.

Sai

On Sunday, December 1, 2024 at 9:08:51 PM UTC-5 yeddanapudim wrote:

I left Iyer123 when I could not bear the quarrels.
Now I am willing to join,if you are willing.Please request members not to
use revolting words in quarrels.
YM

On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 5:47 AM ARR <[email protected]> wrote:

Namaskaram

Hope you are mistaken. My group is very old one. I have just reviewed it. I
have my own WhatsApp group as well as same members in Google groups.

I do not want to take any members. I just invited to join the group even
then there is no response.

I request review our iyer123 group and more participation.

But i cannot close my group.

Frankly speaking no one is having time now a days to post and read mails in
groups

A R Ranganathan

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 at 23:28, Indian R <[email protected]> wrote:

If your intention is to simply take some group members from this group and
have them post to your group - please - cease and desist. If you wish to
contact them OFFLINE, without adding your message to this group, there is
nothing I can do about it.

But what you are attempting to do is, honestly, wrong and I must ask that
you please stop.

Moderator

On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-5 [email protected]
wrote:

Hi,

Below is the extract of the group message. Hardly 5 or 6 members are
exchanging mails.
I have initiated a group which was named iyer123 family and subsequently
changed to sanatana shruti.
I have added a few members of the old yahoo group iyer123. Those interested
can join the group on your own interest.

Warm regards
A.R.Ranganathan


Welcome to iyer123.


This group is a revival of the erstwhile iyer123 group on the erstwhile
Yahoo groups. That esteemed group was a moderated group, founded by
Viji123. It had over 1000 members and was a great meeting place for
everyone remotely related to Iyers. But suddenly on or about May 12, 2014,
the group stopped functioning. The cause of the sudden cessation of
messages is not known. Subsequently, after 6 or so years, Yahoo Groups
itself came to an end. Not having the list of original subscribers to
Yahoo's iyer123, this group was founded at about that time and initial
invitations were sent. About 50 members joined and the subsequent revival
of iyer123 is ongoing. You are being requested to add yourself to this
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One difference between the Yahoo group and this one on Google groups is
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dependent on the mortality (or presumed immortality) of a single moderator.


IYER123

Welcome again.

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