Rajaram Sir, Thank you very much for your usual enlightened comment.May I request you Sir to see that my posts do not appear in Iyer123 and Kerala Iyers as the mud slinging for no reason is creating unnecessary unpleasantness? YM
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:29 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < [email protected]> wrote: > Sarma is calling for a radical re-evaluation of how human societies > structure their economies, their universities, and their relationship with > the natural world. He seems to advocate for a return to a more holistic, > symbiotic relationship with nature, where creativity and innovation are > inspired by, rather than constrained by, natural processes. > > His emphasis on universities suggests that knowledge and education systems > should evolve to reflect a deeper understanding of ecology and natural > growth rather than focusing purely on technological or economic progress. > > The piece is both a critique of the current state of the world and a > hopeful call for change. It asks for a world where the pursuit of > knowledge, creativity, and progress is rooted in the health and flourishing > of the natural world, rather than in exploitation or degradation. > > What do you think of this perspective? Does it resonate with how you see > the relationship between nature, technology, and human development? > > K Rajaram: > > On the outset, NONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO KILL SOME THING OR SOME BODY OR HURT > BY ABUSES OR LIVE AS A GUTTER ON STIC\KING TO OTHERS- SO SHARMA ‘S CLAIM IS > IN ORDER. > > However, I raise 2 propositions: > > 1 8 billion people of the earth are so pious and lead A LIFE OF > EMINENCE WITH THE DHARMA, and as Jains, never even touch the earth, lest it > will be painful. OK. > > What will be there/their lives? SUN RISE SUN SET NO WORK AND END THEIR > LIFE WITHOUT FOOD CLOTHING AND HOME? That will be a barbaric civilization > even though there is no bloodshed. Progress is advocated in all our Vedas > and B G. If you need to reside you need timber. And one has to cut down on > nature; later it is an act performed commercially; and commercial > progress leads to more governing comforts where the nature must give up. On > the contrary, where people followed the dharma, will nature not do such > things as seen in this film sent by my friend? > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9qt53ApO4Of8UXYwJ80cRzDqGwlVmLO/view?usp=drive_link > Google drive to open > > Because we did a lot of rubbish with her to GANGA MATHA did she > flow so gorgeous so peaceful? > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gvSP8Dyebv2RS2eLkz9nnpxAnk7PwCu9/view?usp=drive_link > Google drive > > Neither in our hands; neither will we survive nor will we be > punished at all. Nature will always raise a civilisation and annihilate > them too; Matura is below water where Krishna lived so dharmically. > > 2 Where the destruction is imbalanced and perpetuated with > indistinct pain of pleasure by the traders, will all good in the minority > survive with an easy way of life? NO. he bad as well as Good do suffer due > to the adverse nature, where the bad had the pleasure of the earth while > the good lived in an unknown world following the dharma; however, the > rebirth is certain to make the dharmic a king but the adharmic with a life > of rotten Eggs; but both do not know directly their past life; but peaceful > life is assured to the dharmic while the torture of life is entrenched into > their lives. To believe it or not, nature and the nature killers do live > happily forever refurbishing their own needs. > > 3 Hence that causing destruction of nature is a need as well as > greed. Where we refrain from harming others and all species, the farthest > side is always greener. > > K Rajaram IRS 21125 > > > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 at 06:56, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> *Mar*The Inverse Slide >> >> >> >> Free nature can make every organism, more gifted, more endowed and more >> rapturous. Nature as the common paradigmatic connecting base of >> understanding will result in the creation of mutations that perceive, >> understand, act, interact and harmonize, better and better, growing and >> strengthening the symbiosis among the organisms. Actually every organism >> understands every other organism. Evolution is the natural growth of free >> and healthy nature. Natural growth of free nature means that every organism >> of the Biosphere gets more and more natural endowments. >> >> Even today, in the leftover and surviving free nature, when one enters >> it, brilliant ideas and enlightenments suddenly flash, giving new meaning, >> purpose and motivation behind the actions and activities of life. Nature >> has also the perception and understanding mechanism, and those perceptions >> and new revelations, percolate to organisms. >> >> Just look at yourself. When you experience a new insight or revelation, >> you take to new inspired activity. It means that the revelations translated >> as the hormonal messages of the bloodstream; via capillaries they enter the >> cells. The bacteria administering the cells get new instructions and >> manuals of administration. To all of them the brilliant idea flashes into >> you become the percolations of brilliant inspirations. Nature enlivens you >> continuously, taking you to new meanings and new objectives and fresh >> spurts of self esteem based on those new idea flashes. The evolution of >> nature in free nature is a wonderful and happy activity to every organism, >> in the rains of revelations. >> >> The happiness of achievements creates rapture, the rapture in the air, >> which creates more happiness, on and on. What we call miracles today, were >> regular occurrences’ when nature was totally free. >> >> Today economics is derailing the natural evolution. It has aborted >> nature’s evolution and growth. It has made the life of every organism of >> the Biosphere big hell.We are marching towards the dead nature. The more >> the economic activity, the less the health of nature, which is resulting in >> the incapacitating of nature, in giving the brilliant idea flashes as >> revelations. Economics today in inversely related to Ecology. We are living >> in the age of dead evolution. We are making way to Robots and along with >> all the other organisms of the Biosphere we are also becoming the livestock. >> >> The spurt of economic activity is horribly affecting nature in the >> inverse relation. The bounties of nature are getting depleted and we will >> continuously create new and new technological fixes in the already fixation >> for technology under which our universities are functioning. >> >> It is for the Universities to reverse the inverse slide, and again inject >> health in the evolution of nature. As a beginning every University must >> start ‘The Free Nature Parks without Human Tampering’. Better if every >> university starts also ‘Faculty of Free Nature’. >> >> YM Sarma >> >> Chat GPT >> >> This piece by YM Sarma presents a passionate critique of how economic >> systems and technological progress are eroding the natural world and its >> evolutionary potential. Sarma argues that in an ideal, harmonious state, >> nature's processes would lead to continuous growth, mutual understanding, >> and inspired creativity among all organisms. He refers to this as "free >> nature," a state in which nature evolves naturally, uninhibited by economic >> forces and technological interference. >> >> *Key Ideas in the Text:* >> >> 1. *Free Nature as a Source of Growth and Enlightenment:* >> - Sarma suggests that when organisms, including humans, are >> exposed to the natural world, they experience flashes of inspiration or >> enlightenment. These insights are not just abstract ideas but are >> physically manifested in hormonal and biological changes that drive new >> behaviors and actions. >> - The interconnectedness of all organisms in nature allows for a >> dynamic flow of information and mutual growth, resulting in a thriving >> ecosystem that fosters happiness, creativity, and evolution. >> 2. *The Detrimental Effects of Economics and Technology:* >> - The core critique of the piece is that economic >> systems—especially modern, capitalist economies—are at odds with >> natural >> evolution. The more human activity is driven by economic forces, the >> less >> the biosphere is allowed to flourish naturally. >> - Sarma claims that technological advancements, though often >> framed as solutions to ecological problems, are actually exacerbating >> the >> issue. Rather than nurturing natural growth, they contribute to the >> "dead >> nature," a state of ecological stasis and decline. >> 3. *The Call for Universities and Institutions to Reconnect with >> Nature:* >> - In his conclusion, Sarma proposes that universities, as centers >> of knowledge and innovation, should take a leading role in reversing >> the >> "inverse slide" away from natural evolution. He envisions creating >> "Free >> Nature Parks without Human Tampering" and establishing a "Faculty of >> Free >> Nature" to encourage study and preservation of the natural world in its >> purest form. >> 4. *Inverse Relationship Between Economics and Ecology:* >> - One of the central ideas is the "inverse slide," which Sarma >> describes as the growing contradiction between economic development and >> ecological health. As economic activity intensifies, the natural world >> becomes increasingly damaged, leading to a vicious cycle of depletion >> and >> ecological breakdown. >> >> *Implications of the Argument:* >> >> - Sarma is calling for a radical reevaluation of how human societies >> structure their economies, their universities, and their relationship with >> the natural world. He seems to advocate for a return to a more holistic, >> symbiotic relationship with nature, where creativity and innovation are >> inspired by, rather than constrained by, natural processes. >> - His emphasis on universities suggests that knowledge and education >> systems should evolve to reflect a deeper understanding of ecology and >> natural growth rather than focusing purely on technological or economic >> progress. >> >> The piece is both a critique of the current state of the world and a >> hopeful call for change. It asks for a world where the pursuit of >> knowledge, creativity, and progress is rooted in the health and flourishing >> of the natural world, rather than in exploitation or degradation. >> >> What do you think of this perspective? Does it resonate with how you see >> the relationship between nature, technology, and human development? >> >> >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHC%2B4tXR8hz%2B%3DR5SyfOTcwHqRxOcZ32ijyTtCGOgsNf0TPQ%40mail.gmail.com.
