welcome KR On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 at 12:41, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote:
> Rajaram Sir, > Thank you very much for your usual enlightened comment.May I request you > Sir to see that my posts do not appear in Iyer123 and Kerala Iyers as the > mud slinging for no reason is creating unnecessary unpleasantness? > YM > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:29 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sarma is calling for a radical re-evaluation of how human societies >> structure their economies, their universities, and their relationship with >> the natural world. He seems to advocate for a return to a more holistic, >> symbiotic relationship with nature, where creativity and innovation are >> inspired by, rather than constrained by, natural processes. >> >> His emphasis on universities suggests that knowledge and education >> systems should evolve to reflect a deeper understanding of ecology and >> natural growth rather than focusing purely on technological or economic >> progress. >> >> The piece is both a critique of the current state of the world and a >> hopeful call for change. It asks for a world where the pursuit of >> knowledge, creativity, and progress is rooted in the health and flourishing >> of the natural world, rather than in exploitation or degradation. >> >> What do you think of this perspective? Does it resonate with how you see >> the relationship between nature, technology, and human development? >> >> K Rajaram: >> >> On the outset, NONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO KILL SOME THING OR SOME BODY OR HURT >> BY ABUSES OR LIVE AS A GUTTER ON STIC\KING TO OTHERS- SO SHARMA ‘S CLAIM IS >> IN ORDER. >> >> However, I raise 2 propositions: >> >> 1 8 billion people of the earth are so pious and lead A LIFE OF >> EMINENCE WITH THE DHARMA, and as Jains, never even touch the earth, lest it >> will be painful. OK. >> >> What will be there/their lives? SUN RISE SUN SET NO WORK AND END THEIR >> LIFE WITHOUT FOOD CLOTHING AND HOME? That will be a barbaric civilization >> even though there is no bloodshed. Progress is advocated in all our Vedas >> and B G. If you need to reside you need timber. And one has to cut down on >> nature; later it is an act performed commercially; and commercial >> progress leads to more governing comforts where the nature must give up. On >> the contrary, where people followed the dharma, will nature not do such >> things as seen in this film sent by my friend? >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9qt53ApO4Of8UXYwJ80cRzDqGwlVmLO/view?usp=drive_link >> Google drive to open >> >> Because we did a lot of rubbish with her to GANGA MATHA did she >> flow so gorgeous so peaceful? >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gvSP8Dyebv2RS2eLkz9nnpxAnk7PwCu9/view?usp=drive_link >> Google drive >> >> Neither in our hands; neither will we survive nor will we be >> punished at all. Nature will always raise a civilisation and annihilate >> them too; Matura is below water where Krishna lived so dharmically. >> >> 2 Where the destruction is imbalanced and perpetuated with >> indistinct pain of pleasure by the traders, will all good in the minority >> survive with an easy way of life? NO. he bad as well as Good do suffer due >> to the adverse nature, where the bad had the pleasure of the earth while >> the good lived in an unknown world following the dharma; however, the >> rebirth is certain to make the dharmic a king but the adharmic with a life >> of rotten Eggs; but both do not know directly their past life; but peaceful >> life is assured to the dharmic while the torture of life is entrenched into >> their lives. To believe it or not, nature and the nature killers do live >> happily forever refurbishing their own needs. >> >> 3 Hence that causing destruction of nature is a need as well as >> greed. Where we refrain from harming others and all species, the farthest >> side is always greener. >> >> K Rajaram IRS 21125 >> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 at 06:56, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar*The Inverse Slide >>> >>> >>> >>> Free nature can make every organism, more gifted, more endowed and more >>> rapturous. Nature as the common paradigmatic connecting base of >>> understanding will result in the creation of mutations that perceive, >>> understand, act, interact and harmonize, better and better, growing and >>> strengthening the symbiosis among the organisms. Actually every organism >>> understands every other organism. Evolution is the natural growth of free >>> and healthy nature. Natural growth of free nature means that every organism >>> of the Biosphere gets more and more natural endowments. >>> >>> Even today, in the leftover and surviving free nature, when one enters >>> it, brilliant ideas and enlightenments suddenly flash, giving new meaning, >>> purpose and motivation behind the actions and activities of life. Nature >>> has also the perception and understanding mechanism, and those perceptions >>> and new revelations, percolate to organisms. >>> >>> Just look at yourself. When you experience a new insight or revelation, >>> you take to new inspired activity. It means that the revelations translated >>> as the hormonal messages of the bloodstream; via capillaries they enter the >>> cells. The bacteria administering the cells get new instructions and >>> manuals of administration. To all of them the brilliant idea flashes into >>> you become the percolations of brilliant inspirations. Nature enlivens you >>> continuously, taking you to new meanings and new objectives and fresh >>> spurts of self esteem based on those new idea flashes. The evolution of >>> nature in free nature is a wonderful and happy activity to every organism, >>> in the rains of revelations. >>> >>> The happiness of achievements creates rapture, the rapture in the air, >>> which creates more happiness, on and on. What we call miracles today, were >>> regular occurrences’ when nature was totally free. >>> >>> Today economics is derailing the natural evolution. It has aborted >>> nature’s evolution and growth. It has made the life of every organism of >>> the Biosphere big hell.We are marching towards the dead nature. The more >>> the economic activity, the less the health of nature, which is resulting in >>> the incapacitating of nature, in giving the brilliant idea flashes as >>> revelations. Economics today in inversely related to Ecology. We are living >>> in the age of dead evolution. We are making way to Robots and along with >>> all the other organisms of the Biosphere we are also becoming the livestock. >>> >>> The spurt of economic activity is horribly affecting nature in the >>> inverse relation. The bounties of nature are getting depleted and we will >>> continuously create new and new technological fixes in the already fixation >>> for technology under which our universities are functioning. >>> >>> It is for the Universities to reverse the inverse slide, and again >>> inject health in the evolution of nature. As a beginning every University >>> must start ‘The Free Nature Parks without Human Tampering’. Better if every >>> university starts also ‘Faculty of Free Nature’. >>> >>> YM Sarma >>> >>> Chat GPT >>> >>> This piece by YM Sarma presents a passionate critique of how economic >>> systems and technological progress are eroding the natural world and its >>> evolutionary potential. Sarma argues that in an ideal, harmonious state, >>> nature's processes would lead to continuous growth, mutual understanding, >>> and inspired creativity among all organisms. He refers to this as "free >>> nature," a state in which nature evolves naturally, uninhibited by economic >>> forces and technological interference. >>> >>> *Key Ideas in the Text:* >>> >>> 1. *Free Nature as a Source of Growth and Enlightenment:* >>> - Sarma suggests that when organisms, including humans, are >>> exposed to the natural world, they experience flashes of inspiration >>> or >>> enlightenment. These insights are not just abstract ideas but are >>> physically manifested in hormonal and biological changes that drive >>> new >>> behaviors and actions. >>> - The interconnectedness of all organisms in nature allows for a >>> dynamic flow of information and mutual growth, resulting in a thriving >>> ecosystem that fosters happiness, creativity, and evolution. >>> 2. *The Detrimental Effects of Economics and Technology:* >>> - The core critique of the piece is that economic >>> systems—especially modern, capitalist economies—are at odds with >>> natural >>> evolution. The more human activity is driven by economic forces, the >>> less >>> the biosphere is allowed to flourish naturally. >>> - Sarma claims that technological advancements, though often >>> framed as solutions to ecological problems, are actually exacerbating >>> the >>> issue. Rather than nurturing natural growth, they contribute to the >>> "dead >>> nature," a state of ecological stasis and decline. >>> 3. *The Call for Universities and Institutions to Reconnect with >>> Nature:* >>> - In his conclusion, Sarma proposes that universities, as centers >>> of knowledge and innovation, should take a leading role in reversing >>> the >>> "inverse slide" away from natural evolution. He envisions creating >>> "Free >>> Nature Parks without Human Tampering" and establishing a "Faculty of >>> Free >>> Nature" to encourage study and preservation of the natural world in >>> its >>> purest form. >>> 4. *Inverse Relationship Between Economics and Ecology:* >>> - One of the central ideas is the "inverse slide," which Sarma >>> describes as the growing contradiction between economic development >>> and >>> ecological health. As economic activity intensifies, the natural world >>> becomes increasingly damaged, leading to a vicious cycle of depletion >>> and >>> ecological breakdown. >>> >>> *Implications of the Argument:* >>> >>> - Sarma is calling for a radical reevaluation of how human societies >>> structure their economies, their universities, and their relationship >>> with >>> the natural world. He seems to advocate for a return to a more holistic, >>> symbiotic relationship with nature, where creativity and innovation are >>> inspired by, rather than constrained by, natural processes. >>> - His emphasis on universities suggests that knowledge and education >>> systems should evolve to reflect a deeper understanding of ecology and >>> natural growth rather than focusing purely on technological or economic >>> progress. >>> >>> The piece is both a critique of the current state of the world and a >>> hopeful call for change. It asks for a world where the pursuit of >>> knowledge, creativity, and progress is rooted in the health and flourishing >>> of the natural world, rather than in exploitation or degradation. >>> >>> What do you think of this perspective? Does it resonate with how you see >>> the relationship between nature, technology, and human development? >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZoqcUbjwOZnSXYdg6_XzfdMLMJnPtHyz7RPFdLGEODMO2Q%40mail.gmail.com.
