avivekam of Gopala overflowing as even conclusions and Judgements of avivekis do not match Thank u KR
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 at 17:22, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > OH, You are pushed to the wall, it means. Thank you. But I have not pushed > you. Probably you lost steadiness. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Friday 21 February, 2025 at 10:28:11 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > another reflection of avivekam of Gopalkrishnan when pushed to the wall KR > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 at 07:05, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr Rajaram, > > In what language you have written?. I am not able to make head and tale of > it. You know Malayalam. Better if you write in Malayalam, I will understand > what you mean. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday 20 February, 2025 at 08:46:16 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes I know hence I wrote. And people a constable alone open up fronts of > abuse and play your fight only aviveki cards. I never questioned about > sradham some body and then also wrote I'll about him. > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, 20:21 gopala krishnan, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr Rajaram, > > So you are a good iyer/iyengar? How you qualify to be a good Iyer or > Iyengar who abuse, disrespect and talk ill of others? > > Do you follow Aapasthamba sutra perfectly? Do you mean the meaning of > Apasthamba correctly? Answer my question. > > Your basic drawback is your thinking of others are not having caliber like > you. Leave your pride. Be a good human being. > > Gopalakrishnan R (former ITS class1) > > > On Thursday 20 February, 2025 at 08:09:44 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes body that is sanctity for good iyers but you are different. And I > cannot write apastamba mantra bramana. And you never exert any effort to > learn and write also. K. R > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, 20:05 gopala krishnan, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I read and understand well. *Not blabber like you quoting some > books/epics or writeups*. > > Think for yourself, about standing on an ammikkal, used for grinding > everyday. An item got sanctity. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday 20 February, 2025 at 06:50:48 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Read well with the glasses KR > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 at 18:33, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers < > [email protected]> wrote: > > A good explanation - Mr Sekar > > Still the bride just touches her right leg on the Ammi. Never stand on > it. Am I correct? While the Ammi is touched by feet by girl , bridegroom > holds her , am I correct. My memory is not clear since I have never > observed closely this function in recent days. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday 20 February, 2025 at 01:57:57 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via > KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks, Yes. > > In a lighter vein. may be because we say I will stand with / by you. So > standing on the Ammi. > > A small piece of granite is not of much use but Ammi helps us in so many > ways - remember those days did not have mixi etc. > > N Sekar > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2025 at 11:07:05 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via > KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Mr Sekar, > > Happy with your explanation. But it can be done by touching with hand. Why > pressed with leg. Infact in marriage halls, being a small piece of granite, > the girl can even slip. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday 20 February, 2025 at 12:03:05 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via > KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks. > > Sri G K, > > Re your query, one explanation *I have heard* is that > > It is a symbolic way of saying that I will be with you, like a rock, > through thick and thin, rain or shine, fortune or misfortune, unwavering in > my support - Ammi was chosen as a symbol to show however much you subject > it to grinding, pounding etc. it stays rock solid - like that I will stay > with you. > > N Sekar > > > > > N Sekar > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 06:30:16 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' > via KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > you have mentioned the ammi is for griding small quantity of wet/dry > items. Such an item how is touched with feet( Ammi mithucchu) in marriage? > > Normally we don't touch with feet any such items with feet. > > Gopalakrishnan > On Tuesday 18 February, 2025 at 09:02:28 pm IST, venkat raman < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Namaste. Ammikkal [ the metate and mano] it is used for grinding small > quantities.Both wet and dry grinding can be done. The mano is pushed and > pulled along the surface of the metate. The Mexicans have been using it for > more than five thousand years. Even for bruising /crushing it is used viz > cardamom, dry ginger etc. Ammi methikkal [ the ahsmarohanam] in our > weddings is a ritual.Also in Upanayanam. Aattukkal [ the molcajet and > tejolete] was used for grinding batter for dosai, iddali, vadai etc. Even > the idichakkai[ the 45 day old young jackfruit ] was crushed in it. The > Iyer riddle " Kadakada kudukudu naduviley paathaalam " is the molcajete. It > was used for pounding small quantities of veppilakkatti and similar > things. Ezhunthram [ the quern/ handmill] was used for grinding uzhundu[ > the black gram], rice etc. Beetling stones were used in rivers etc. At > home the a stone was used for beating clothes while washing. > > Venkataraman > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 at 10:33, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear Sri Gopalakrishnan > > The picture shows neither aattukkal nor thoikkumkkal. > > It shows an ammikkal and kuzhavi for grindin g spices and scraped coconut, > and an ezunthiram of two rounded stones, the lower stone fixed to the gound > and having a short thick steel spike in the middle and an upper stone > with a hole in the middle through which the steel spike appears, plus a > verticl wooden handle to move the upper one. The grains to be ground or to > be split are poured into the hole in the upper stoner, and the wooden > handle turned so the grains fall between both stones and are ground. > > An aattukkal is a large squarish granite stone with a shallow depression > at the top into which the bottom of a kuzhavi is inserted and moved round > to grind the grains (such as wet rice and wet split black beans). > > We still have both ammikkal and aattukkal (and their respective kuzhavis) > at home, though we seldom use them except when there is failure of > electricity supply for the power grinders. We left the ezhunthiram at home > in India, > as we did the ulakkais with which we pounded rice and other grains into > powder on the aattukkal. We used different ulakkais for grinding turmeric > and dried pepper. > > We only saw thoikkum-kal, or stones for beating clothes to clean them, at > the riverside or edges of ponds, where washermen took their collected > laundry. The stones were broad, and largely sloped so that the dirty water > fell back into the river or pond. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 10:43 AM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > The grinding stone-AAttukkal and washing stone-ThoikkumKal are Vasthu > items. In new homes also they are provided. > > On emergency when electric power is not there, still it is used to grind > coconuts. Washing stone is mostly used to wash the socked kitchen cleaning > clothes. Some times guests prefer it for washing towels after bath. Clothes > line is provided near them to put and dry clothes. > > These are available at Kamarajapuram before Camp Road junction, in East > Tambaram, from where I procured for my home. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Tuesday 18 February, 2025 at 07:27:02 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > https://youtu.be/vQedM-HXukQ I purchased both in the modern style from > Mylapore KR IRS 18225 > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Srinivasan Sridharan* <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 at 22:37 > Subject: Return of the old ways! > To: Venkatasubramanian g <[email protected]>, > Gopalakrishnan V <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> > > > I understand , these two items are getting popular again in India ! 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