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Subject: Re: [society4servingseniors] Fwd: Nehru Didn't Listen to a Ladakhi
Monk's Warning...
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Thanks.
Right, "No point in beating a dead snake".

But remember,
" Those who don't remember history, are condemned to repeat it".

Our history was whitewashed to make us forget but we need these bits of
news to remind us - so we are not condemned to repeat it.

N Sekar

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On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:25 AM, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes
Agree
No point in beating  a dead snake
That fellow caused the maximum damage to the country with the support of
that timid fellow , for those two I have scant regard


*A.SURYANARAYANA*
*The less you speak,the more you are listened to*


On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 9:09 AM, Surendra Varma <[email protected]>
wrote:

Indian history and politics is not my cup of tea, so I better not comment
on this thread.

But my experience in life is that when one is in a leadership role, one has
to follow the contours of time to keep one's boat floating and moving
forward. This could demand a combination of  patience, compromise, use of
tactics and strategy, and even accepting a donkey as one's forefather!  The
objective is to reach the desired destination, no matter what route had to
be taken.

The fact of life is that the contours of time keep changing imperceptibly,
and soon, invariably, a new leader takes over the navigation of the boat.
And follows the contours of his time.

This is what reminds us that change is the driver of innovation and
progress.

Basically, what I am trying to say is that what works better is not to
count the "mistakes" of the past leaders but to accept that mistakes are
the best teachers, and use them to design a better future. Let us not feel
taller by cutting the legs of others.

Suren






On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 at 02:18, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:

He was not elected as the first Prime Minister.He did not get a single
vote.Patel got 12 out of fifteen.And he harmed India in every way he
could.Using the techniques of advertising he hoodwinked India for more than
fifteen years.He was the worst misfortune of India.
YMS

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:04 AM Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <
[email protected]> wrote:


To: <[email protected]>


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Kushok Bakula Rinpoche was handpicked by India’s first prime minister,
Jawaharlal Nehru, in 1949 to step up and be counted as a Ladakhi
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Kushok Bakula Rinpoche was born into the royal family of Matho in 1917 on
the auspicious day of Buddha’s birth. Recognized by the 13th Dalai Lama as
the reincarnation of Arhat Bakula, one of Buddha’s sixteen disciples, he
had already proven himself as a scholar-monk of exceptional caliber, having
obtained the highest degree in Philosophy and Metaphysics from Tibet’s
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His political achievements were numerous. He championed education, ensuring
schools opened across Ladakh. He fought for autonomous development
councils, laying the groundwork for what would eventually become Ladakh’s
Union Territory status in 2019. Most importantly, he ensured that Ladakhi
identity remained above religious divisions, maintaining unity between
Buddhist and Muslim communities.

Rinpoche believed in Nehru’s genuine dedication to uplifting the poor and
downtrodden. Together, they worked to fulfill the goals of Ladakh’s
developmental integration with mainland India, transforming a remote
frontier region into a vital part of the Indian Union.

This partnership went beyond politics. Through Nehru’s encouragement and
Rinpoche’s leadership, Ladakh found its voice in democratic India while
preserving its unique cultural and spiritual identity.
The Tibet Mission and The Warning That Fell on Deaf Ears

In 1955, as India prepared for the grand Buddha Jayanti celebrations to
mark the 2500th anniversary of Buddha’s birth, Nehru entrusted Bakula
Rinpoche with a crucial diplomatic mission. The goal was to coordinate with
the Tibetan government in Lhasa and secure the participation of the Dalai
Lama and Panchen Lama in the upcoming celebrations across India.

This mission would prove to be far more significant than its ceremonial
purpose suggested. Rinpoche led a delegation that included Durga Das
Khosla, an official from the Jammu & Kashmir political department, and
Nirmal Sinha, a scholar attached to the political officer in Sikkim, along
with four Ladakhi attendants.

The journey to Tibet in early 1956 provided Rinpoche with a firsthand view
of the dramatic changes occurring under Chinese occupation. From the moment
they crossed into Tibet at Nathu La on January 8, 1956, troubling signs
emerged. At Chumpithang in the Chumbi Valley, a Chinese interpreter shocked
Khosla by claiming that “Ladakh being a part of Tibet, an Indian Officer
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Even more alarming was Khosla’s observation: “The Chinese Government has
secretly circulated a new map of Tibet among their official
organisations... in which they have shown the whole of Aksai Chin (Soda
Plains) hump as a part of Tibet. Kashmir’s northern border as illustrated
in this map shows some daring incursions into our Karakoram area of
northern Ladakh and Baltistan.”

This was three years before the Aksai Chin issue would come to Parliament,
and Nehru would admit that China had built a road on Indian soil.

During his three-month stay in Tibet, Rinpoche had extensive discussions
with the Panchen Lama in Shigatse, audiences with the Dalai Lama in Lhasa,
and meetings with various Tibetan leaders. What he witnessed deeply
concerned him: Around 20,000 Chinese troops were present throughout Tibet,
ostensibly for construction work but clearly for military control.

Upon his return to Delhi, Rinpoche was received by Prime Minister Nehru for
a detailed 90-minute briefing. As historian Ramachandra Guha documented in
“India after Gandhi,” Rinpoche warned the Government of India in 1955 of
the severe danger facing Tibet and its potential fallout on India, as
reports came in of growing Chinese presence in the region.

According to Dr. Jamyang Gyaltsan, a retired professor who belonged to the
same village as Rinpoche: “When the delegation returned, Rinpoche told
Nehru that not only will the Chinese access Tibet but also take away the
Indian territory. Nehru didn’t believe him. He shared this with me much
later and said if Nehru ji had believed him, things would have been
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Rinpoche’s warnings about Chinese intentions in Tibet and their
implications for Indian territory, particularly regarding Aksai Chin, were
unfortunately ignored. The consequences of this oversight would become
painfully evident during the 1962 Sino-Indian War, when China’s occupation
of Aksai Chin became a fait accompli.
Grace in the Face of Vindication
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What happened next reveals the extraordinary character of both men,
particularly Bakula Rinpoche. Despite being proven tragically correct about
Chinese intentions, and despite the devastating consequences of the ignored
warnings, Rinpoche never once said “I told you so” to Nehru.

As Claude Arpi, an expert on India-China relations, noted: “The Chinese did
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Yet, even as the Chinese aggression of 1961-62 unfolded exactly as he had
predicted, Rinpoche remained a loyal friend and advisor to the Prime
Minister. Instead of recriminations, Rinpoche worked tirelessly for the
resettlement of Tibetan refugees following their influx into India after
the 1959 Tibetan uprising. Already under immense public criticism for the
military debacle, Nehru found in Rinpoche not judgment but unwavering
support and understanding.
The Final Tribute

When Nehru passed away on May 27, 1964, Bakula Rinpoche was devastated. In
his letter of condolence to Indira Gandhi, dated June 1, 1964, he wrote:

*”The passing away of our most beloved and distinguished Pandit ji is one
of the saddest events in the history of man. Mother Earth has become
poorer. Man will have to perform deeds of merit for thousands of years
before [another] one like him walks upon this earth again... It is the
pious wish of our people that a portion of the last remains of the ones who
took so much interest in their well-being should be taken to Ladakh so that
they may have the sacred opportunity of showing their reverence according
to their religious rites. This implies the building of a Stupa and
enshrining the sacred remains therein.”

This letter reveals the depth of gratitude and affection that Rinpoche felt
for Nehru, despite the tragic consequences of the unheeded warnings about
China. The request for a portion of Nehru’s ashes to build a stupa in
Ladakh was not just a religious gesture but a profound statement of their
enduring bond.

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