We are not allowed to forget him.Thousands of institutions are named after
him.And his progeny feel entitled.
YMS

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 10:14 AM Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: N Sekar <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [society4servingseniors] Fwd: Nehru Didn't Listen to a
> Ladakhi Monk's Warning...
> To: <[email protected]>, Surendra Varma <[email protected]>
> Cc: Markendeya Yeddanapudi <[email protected]>, ggroup <
> [email protected]>, Satyanarayana Kunamneni <
> [email protected]>, Colinjivadi Mahadevan <[email protected]>,
> Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <
> [email protected]>, Ravindra Kumar Bhuwalka <[email protected]>,
> Seshadri Vellimedu <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]>, R V Rao <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <
> [email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <
> [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>,
> Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]>, Rama (Iyer 123 Group) <
> [email protected]>, Mani APS <[email protected]>, Srinivasan Sridharan <
> [email protected]>
>
>
> Thanks.
> Right, "No point in beating a dead snake".
>
> But remember,
> " Those who don't remember history, are condemned to repeat it".
>
> Our history was whitewashed to make us forget but we need these bits of
> news to remind us - so we are not condemned to repeat it.
>
> N Sekar
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> On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:25 AM, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes
> Agree
> No point in beating  a dead snake
> That fellow caused the maximum damage to the country with the support of
> that timid fellow , for those two I have scant regard
>
>
> *A.SURYANARAYANA*
> *The less you speak,the more you are listened to*
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 9:09 AM, Surendra Varma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Indian history and politics is not my cup of tea, so I better not comment
> on this thread.
>
> But my experience in life is that when one is in a leadership role, one
> has to follow the contours of time to keep one's boat floating and moving
> forward. This could demand a combination of  patience, compromise, use of
> tactics and strategy, and even accepting a donkey as one's forefather!  The
> objective is to reach the desired destination, no matter what route had to
> be taken.
>
> The fact of life is that the contours of time keep changing imperceptibly,
> and soon, invariably, a new leader takes over the navigation of the boat.
> And follows the contours of his time.
>
> This is what reminds us that change is the driver of innovation and
> progress.
>
> Basically, what I am trying to say is that what works better is not to
> count the "mistakes" of the past leaders but to accept that mistakes are
> the best teachers, and use them to design a better future. Let us not feel
> taller by cutting the legs of others.
>
> Suren
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 at 02:18, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> He was not elected as the first Prime Minister.He did not get a single
> vote.Patel got 12 out of fifteen.And he harmed India in every way he
> could.Using the techniques of advertising he hoodwinked India for more than
> fifteen years.He was the worst misfortune of India.
> YMS
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:04 AM Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> To: <[email protected]>
>
>
> ... and the consequences were severe in the Indo-China War of 1962
> ͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
> ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
> ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
> ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
> ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
> ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>   ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
>     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏     ­͏
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> Kushok Bakula Rinpoche was handpicked by India’s first prime minister,
> Jawaharlal Nehru, in 1949 to step up and be counted as a Ladakhi
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> Kushok Bakula Rinpoche was born into the royal family of Matho in 1917 on
> the auspicious day of Buddha’s birth. Recognized by the 13th Dalai Lama as
> the reincarnation of Arhat Bakula, one of Buddha’s sixteen disciples, he
> had already proven himself as a scholar-monk of exceptional caliber, having
> obtained the highest degree in Philosophy and Metaphysics from Tibet’s
> prestigious Drepung Loseling Monastic Institute.
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> His political achievements were numerous. He championed education,
> ensuring schools opened across Ladakh. He fought for autonomous development
> councils, laying the groundwork for what would eventually become Ladakh’s
> Union Territory status in 2019. Most importantly, he ensured that Ladakhi
> identity remained above religious divisions, maintaining unity between
> Buddhist and Muslim communities.
>
> Rinpoche believed in Nehru’s genuine dedication to uplifting the poor and
> downtrodden. Together, they worked to fulfill the goals of Ladakh’s
> developmental integration with mainland India, transforming a remote
> frontier region into a vital part of the Indian Union.
>
> This partnership went beyond politics. Through Nehru’s encouragement and
> Rinpoche’s leadership, Ladakh found its voice in democratic India while
> preserving its unique cultural and spiritual identity.
> The Tibet Mission and The Warning That Fell on Deaf Ears
>
> In 1955, as India prepared for the grand Buddha Jayanti celebrations to
> mark the 2500th anniversary of Buddha’s birth, Nehru entrusted Bakula
> Rinpoche with a crucial diplomatic mission. The goal was to coordinate with
> the Tibetan government in Lhasa and secure the participation of the Dalai
> Lama and Panchen Lama in the upcoming celebrations across India.
>
> This mission would prove to be far more significant than its ceremonial
> purpose suggested. Rinpoche led a delegation that included Durga Das
> Khosla, an official from the Jammu & Kashmir political department, and
> Nirmal Sinha, a scholar attached to the political officer in Sikkim, along
> with four Ladakhi attendants.
>
> The journey to Tibet in early 1956 provided Rinpoche with a firsthand view
> of the dramatic changes occurring under Chinese occupation. From the moment
> they crossed into Tibet at Nathu La on January 8, 1956, troubling signs
> emerged. At Chumpithang in the Chumbi Valley, a Chinese interpreter shocked
> Khosla by claiming that “Ladakh being a part of Tibet, an Indian Officer
> could not be connected with him.” VSK Telangana
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> Even more alarming was Khosla’s observation: “The Chinese Government has
> secretly circulated a new map of Tibet among their official
> organisations... in which they have shown the whole of Aksai Chin (Soda
> Plains) hump as a part of Tibet. Kashmir’s northern border as illustrated
> in this map shows some daring incursions into our Karakoram area of
> northern Ladakh and Baltistan.”
>
> This was three years before the Aksai Chin issue would come to Parliament,
> and Nehru would admit that China had built a road on Indian soil.
>
> During his three-month stay in Tibet, Rinpoche had extensive discussions
> with the Panchen Lama in Shigatse, audiences with the Dalai Lama in Lhasa,
> and meetings with various Tibetan leaders. What he witnessed deeply
> concerned him: Around 20,000 Chinese troops were present throughout Tibet,
> ostensibly for construction work but clearly for military control.
>
> Upon his return to Delhi, Rinpoche was received by Prime Minister Nehru
> for a detailed 90-minute briefing. As historian Ramachandra Guha documented
> in “India after Gandhi,” Rinpoche warned the Government of India in 1955 of
> the severe danger facing Tibet and its potential fallout on India, as
> reports came in of growing Chinese presence in the region.
>
> According to Dr. Jamyang Gyaltsan, a retired professor who belonged to the
> same village as Rinpoche: “When the delegation returned, Rinpoche told
> Nehru that not only will the Chinese access Tibet but also take away the
> Indian territory. Nehru didn’t believe him. He shared this with me much
> later and said if Nehru ji had believed him, things would have been
> different.” India Today
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>
> Rinpoche’s warnings about Chinese intentions in Tibet and their
> implications for Indian territory, particularly regarding Aksai Chin, were
> unfortunately ignored. The consequences of this oversight would become
> painfully evident during the 1962 Sino-Indian War, when China’s occupation
> of Aksai Chin became a fait accompli.
> Grace in the Face of Vindication
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>
> What happened next reveals the extraordinary character of both men,
> particularly Bakula Rinpoche. Despite being proven tragically correct about
> Chinese intentions, and despite the devastating consequences of the ignored
> warnings, Rinpoche never once said “I told you so” to Nehru.
>
> As Claude Arpi, an expert on India-China relations, noted: “The Chinese
> did not keep their words and Delhi did not pay heed to Bakula’s warnings.” VSK
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>
>
> Yet, even as the Chinese aggression of 1961-62 unfolded exactly as he had
> predicted, Rinpoche remained a loyal friend and advisor to the Prime
> Minister. Instead of recriminations, Rinpoche worked tirelessly for the
> resettlement of Tibetan refugees following their influx into India after
> the 1959 Tibetan uprising. Already under immense public criticism for the
> military debacle, Nehru found in Rinpoche not judgment but unwavering
> support and understanding.
> The Final Tribute
>
> When Nehru passed away on May 27, 1964, Bakula Rinpoche was devastated. In
> his letter of condolence to Indira Gandhi, dated June 1, 1964, he wrote:
>
> *”The passing away of our most beloved and distinguished Pandit ji is one
> of the saddest events in the history of man. Mother Earth has become
> poorer. Man will have to perform deeds of merit for thousands of years
> before [another] one like him walks upon this earth again... It is the
> pious wish of our people that a portion of the last remains of the ones who
> took so much interest in their well-being should be taken to Ladakh so that
> they may have the sacred opportunity of showing their reverence according
> to their religious rites. This implies the building of a Stupa and
> enshrining the sacred remains therein.”
>
> This letter reveals the depth of gratitude and affection that Rinpoche
> felt for Nehru, despite the tragic consequences of the unheeded warnings
> about China. The request for a portion of Nehru’s ashes to build a stupa in
> Ladakh was not just a religious gesture but a profound statement of their
> enduring bond.
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