One last update.  I debugged on PyCharm last night with theano and it worked 
well.  My setup is as above.

I don't really know enough about this stuff to suggest changes to your setup 
but mine is working now.

The only thing left is non essential but in PyCharm when loading data into the 
debugger it times out and says something like:

"Unable to load children: timeout waiting on process for 110"

I can still see the data if i click the View link on the right of the text but 
not not on the left in the actual list of variables.

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