Robert, may you send me an example of Walls data?

I was surprised how simple is to convert Compass data to Therion. As I may say, 
Compass data are small subset of Therion’s format so several simple 
copy/paste made the job.

m.s.


> 19. 4. 2015 v 6:41, Robert Countess <rob.countess at gmail.com>:
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Generated my first pdf plan and profile with UTM/elevation and xvi file for 
> drawing map. I love how automatic many of these things are. I am feeling 
> hopeful about Therion now. I am stoked to finally finish the maps of Arch, 
> Resonance, and Glory ‘ole and hopefully later this summer we will connect 
> them all to make it at least Canada’s second longest Cave. If I get this 
> working, I’m sure I can convince some other Canadian cavers to use Therion. 
> Then again I can’t even get them to use Walls. Many are still using On 
> Station. I think the speed and flexibility of output with win them over.
> 
> One tiny annoyance. One of the surveyors last names is von Vorkampff and 
> Therion gives and “invalid name format” error message. I changed it to 
> von_Vorkampff and bypassed the error but with sub par final map output - it 
> says  von.Vorkampff
> 
> Again, thanks for helping me out. I’m sure I’ll have more questions later.
> 
> Rob Countess
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:49 PM, therion-request at speleo.sk wrote:
> 
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>>     time user (Robert Countess) (Dave Clucas)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:07:26 +0100
>> From: Wookey <wookey at wookware.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] having trouble, first time user
>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>> Message-ID: <20150418220726.GF8982 at halon.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> +++ Robert Countess [2015-04-18 12:25 -0700]:
>>> Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX installation instructions on wiki
>>> 
>> 
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://
>>> raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
>> 
>> [lots of dependency/package building]
>> 
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6 files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
>>> -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion
>> 
>> This is exactly the reason that 20 years ago binary linux
>> distributions were invented, to replace the previous painful process
>> of users downloading code and tools and dependencies and building
>> them all until they got some software working. 'brew' attempts to
>> automate this process but there are still a lot of ways it can go
>> wrong.
>> 
>> Do Mac people not have a proper packaging system someone could make
>> therion packages for?
>> 
>>> _____________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> A program named WISH opened and window named therion compiler. The Status 
>>> bar
>>> at the bottom read ?User interface is not active. To activate it open and
>>> existing file or create a new one."
>>> When I try to open a file with either the Wish file|open or the folder 
>>> button
>>> I am unable to open any files in the Demo data set - they are all grey and
>>> cannot be selected.
>>> 
>>> I am a first time user. Previously used On Station and the Walls. I had data
>>> for 3 major caving areas in Walls totalling about 50 km of cave. I want to
>>> switch it all to Therion but if I can?t get the program to work then I?ll 
>>> have
>>> to stick with Walls.
>> 
>> I'm sure we can get you going. We do have several mac users here, but
>> I'm not one so can't really provide much help.
>> 
>> Can you get a command prompt? Can you run 'xtherion' from there?
>> That's the user interface for drawing stuff up. 
>> 
>> 'therion' is the compiler tool that processes the data. What happens
>> if you run 'therion -v version'? Does that print out a version? or
>> 'therion --print-init-file'?
>> 
>> If you can convert some of your (centreline) data (just using a text
>> editor) you should be able process it using just 'therion'.
>> 
>> You will need xtherion in order to draw up cave sections.
>> 
>> Has anyone written a walls to therion conversion tool? I'm not aware of
>> one.
>> 
>> Wookey
>> -- 
>> Principal hats:  Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM
>> http://wookware.org/
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:18:41 +0100
>> From: Dave Clucas <dave.clucas at icloud.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4, having
>>      trouble, first time user (Robert Countess)
>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>> Message-ID: <2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198 at icloud.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> To open an existing file start Terminal and type xtherion followed by the 
>> filename you wish to open. You may drag the filename from a Finder window.
>> 
>> Dave Clucas
>> daveclucas.com <http://daveclucas.com/>
>> sarawak-caves.com <http://sarawak-caves.com/>
>> dave.clucas at icloud.com <mailto:daveclucas at icloud.com>
>> 
>> Exploring the World - One cave at a time
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Apr 2015, at 21:17, therion-request at speleo.sk wrote:
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>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:25:37 -0700
>>> From: Robert Countess <rob.countess at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Therion] having trouble, first time user
>>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>>> Message-ID: <3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX installation instructions on wiki
>>> 
>>> Installed Mactex
>>> rebooted
>>> 
>>> Last login: Fri Apr 17 12:19:12 on console
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ make
>>> xcode-select: note: no developer tools were found at 
>>> '/Applications/Xcode.app', requesting install. Choose an option in the 
>>> dialog to download the command line developer tools.
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ 
>>> [Restored]
>>> Last login: Sat Apr 18 09:14:48 on console
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ 
>>> [Restored]
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
>>> ==> This script will install:
>>> /usr/local/bin/brew
>>> /usr/local/Library/...
>>> /usr/local/share/man/man1/brew.1
>>> ==> The following directories will be made group writable:
>>> /usr/local/.
>>> /usr/local/bin
>>> /usr/local/share
>>> /usr/local/share/man
>>> /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>> ==> The following directories will have their group set to admin:
>>> /usr/local/.
>>> /usr/local/bin
>>> /usr/local/share
>>> /usr/local/share/man
>>> /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>> 
>>> Press RETURN to continue or any other key to abort
>>> ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin 
>>> /usr/local/share /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>> 
>>> WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss
>>> or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your
>>> typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.
>>> 
>>> To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.
>>> 
>>> Password:
>>> ==> /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/chgrp admin /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin 
>>> /usr/local/share /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>> ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/mkdir /Library/Caches/Homebrew
>>> ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx /Library/Caches/Homebrew
>>> ==> Downloading and installing Homebrew...
>>> remote: Counting objects: 3533, done.
>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3387/3387), done.
>>> remote: Total 3533 (delta 34), reused 1514 (delta 18), pack-reused 0
>>> Receiving objects: 100% (3533/3533), 2.65 MiB | 1.55 MiB/s, done.
>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (34/34), done.
>>> From https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew
>>> * [new branch]      master     -> origin/master
>>> HEAD is now at 681c6f3 txt2tags: modernize and add test
>>> ==> Installation successful!
>>> ==> Next steps
>>> Run `brew help` to get started
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew help
>>> Example usage:
>>> brew [info | home | options ] [FORMULA...]
>>> brew install FORMULA...
>>> brew uninstall FORMULA...
>>> brew search [foo]
>>> brew list [FORMULA...]
>>> brew update
>>> brew upgrade [FORMULA...]
>>> brew pin/unpin [FORMULA...]
>>> 
>>> Troubleshooting:
>>> brew doctor
>>> brew install -vd FORMULA
>>> brew [--env | config]
>>> 
>>> Brewing:
>>> brew create [URL [--no-fetch]]
>>> brew edit [FORMULA...]
>>> open 
>>> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md
>>> 
>>> Further help:
>>> man brew
>>> brew home
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew update
>>> Already up-to-date.
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew doctor
>>> Please note that these warnings are just used to help the Homebrew 
>>> maintainers
>>> with debugging if you file an issue. If everything you use Homebrew for is
>>> working fine: please don't worry and just ignore them. Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Warning: Some directories in /usr/local/share/man aren't writable.
>>> This can happen if you "sudo make install" software that isn't managed
>>> by Homebrew. If a brew tries to add locale information to one of these
>>> directories, then the install will fail during the link step.
>>> You should probably `chown` them:
>>> 
>>>  /usr/local/share/man/de
>>>  /usr/local/share/man/de/man1
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew tap homebrew/science
>>> ==> Tapping Homebrew/science
>>> Cloning into '/usr/local/Library/Taps/homebrew/homebrew-science'...
>>> remote: Counting objects: 10005, done.
>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (15/15), done.
>>> remote: Total 10005 (delta 5), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 9990
>>> Receiving objects: 100% (10005/10005), 2.68 MiB | 1.56 MiB/s, done.
>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (5584/5584), done.
>>> Checking connectivity... done.
>>> Tapped 475 formulae (501 files, 5.1M)
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew install 
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Installing dependencies for therion: libpng, freetype, xz, libtool, j
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: libpng
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bot
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libpng/1.6.17: 17 files, 1.3M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: freetype
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bo
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/freetype/2.5.5: 60 files, 2.6M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: xz
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.t
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/xz/5.2.1: 59 files, 1.7M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: libtool
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bot
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ==> Caveats
>>> In order to prevent conflicts with Apple's own libtool we have prepended a 
>>> "g"
>>> so, you have instead: glibtool and glibtoolize.
>>> ==> Summary
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtool/2.4.6: 69 files, 3.8M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: jpeg
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/jpeg/8d: 18 files, 780K
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: imagemagick
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/imagemagick-6.9.1-1.maveric
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring imagemagick-6.9.1-1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/imagemagick/6.9.1-1: 1442 files, 22M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: lcdf-typetools
>>> ==> Downloading http://www.lcdf.org/type/lcdf-typetools-2.104.tar.gz
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104 
>>> --without-kpaths
>>> ==> make install
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104: 29 files, 4.1M, built in 20 
>>> seconds
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: cmake
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottl
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/cmake/3.2.2: 1847 files, 32M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: boost
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bott
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/boost/1.57.0: 10572 files, 439M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: fontconfig
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks.bottle.3.tar.gz
>>> ==> /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1/bin/fc-cache -frv
>>> xtherion?  /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1: 448 files, 3.6M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: szip
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.t
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/szip/2.1: 9 files, 136K
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: hdf5
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles-science/hdf5-1.8.14.maveric
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring hdf5-1.8.14.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/hdf5/1.8.14: 174 files, 11M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: libtiff
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bot
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtiff/4.0.3: 254 files, 3.8M
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: vtk
>>> ==> Downloading http://www.vtk.org/files/release/6.2/VTK-6.2.0.tar.gz
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE= -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE= 
>>> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PR
>>> ==> make
>>> xtherion
>>> ==> make install
>>> ==> Caveats
>>> Even without the --with-qt option, you can display native VTK render windows
>>> from python. Alternatively, you can integrate the RenderWindowInteractor
>>> in PyQt, PySide, Tk or Wx at runtime. Read more:
>>>  import vtk.qt4; help(vtk.qt4) or import vtk.wx; help(vtk.wx)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Python modules have been installed and Homebrew's site-packages is not
>>> in your Python sys.path, so you will not be able to import the modules
>>> this formula installed. If you plan to develop with these modules,
>>> please run:
>>> mkdir -p /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages
>>> echo 'import site; 
>>> site.addsitedir("/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages")' >> 
>>> /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages/homebrew.pth
>>> ==> Summary
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/vtk/6.2.0: 3186 files, 125M, built in 21.4 minutes
>>> ==> Installing therion dependency: wxmac
>>> ==> Downloading 
>>> https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottl
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> Pouring wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottle.9.tar.gz
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/wxmac/3.0.2: 777 files, 41M
>>> ==> Installing therion
>>> ==> Downloading http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.16.tar.gz
>>> ######################################################################## 
>>> 100.0%
>>> ==> make config-macosx
>>> ==> make
>>> ==> make install
>>> ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6 files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
>>> -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
>>> Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion
>>> 
>>> _____________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> A program named WISH opened and window named therion compiler. The Status 
>>> bar at the bottom read ?User interface is not active. To activate it open 
>>> and existing file or create a new one."
>>> When I try to open a file with either the Wish file|open or the folder 
>>> button I am unable to open any files in the Demo data set - they are all 
>>> grey and cannot be selected.
>>> 
>>> I am a first time user. Previously used On Station and the Walls. I had 
>>> data for 3 major caving areas in Walls totalling about 50 km of cave. I 
>>> want to switch it all to Therion but if I can?t get the program to work 
>>> then I?ll have to stick with Walls.
>>> 
>>> Rob Countess
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