Hi all,
any news about installer without admin rights?
For my it would be very handy because i use sometimes company pc without
admin...



S pozdravom

Ing. Michal Danko



On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Владимир Георгиев via Therion <
therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

> I got your idea :)
> That means making the installer non-admin only, so it will always install
> the shortcuts and registry entries for the Current user only. And the
> default suggested install location will be in the user's AppData folder,
> not in Program files.
>
> The theoretical Therion user who shares a computer with another Therion
> user will have to install their own copy :)
>
> Vlad
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Footleg via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
> wrote:
>
>> I have yet to meet a Therion user who knows another Therion user who they
>> share a computer with. So I would be happy with install for Current user
>> only.
>>
>> Footleg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:15 PM Владимир Георгиев via Therion <
>> therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the location is flexible. I think it was that way in the old
>>> installer too.
>>> But there are also global Start menu shortcuts and registry entries that
>>> go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. For those the installer needs admin rights. If
>>> it doesn't have them, it comes down again to the All users vs Current user
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Footleg via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Usually a Windows application installer offers the option to install to
>>>> a location of the users choosing. If this was done then users wanting to
>>>> install without admin privileges could choose a location they have write
>>>> permissions for. Otherwise users can choose to just click through 'Next' on
>>>> each page to accept the default install under Program Files.
>>>>
>>>> Footleg
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion <
>>>> therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is outside of my area of expertise, however:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - No 1 seems dangerous, at the whim of future MS updates and there
>>>>>    are bound to be people with non-standard setups, or very old Windows
>>>>>    versions, any of which might break something that tries to be too 
>>>>> clever.
>>>>>    - No 2 is OK by me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t think I would use a ‘non-installed’ version.  The installer is
>>>>> compact, quick, easy and has proved versatile and reliable over at least 
>>>>> 10
>>>>> years.  I rely on file associations heavily, to tweak my system to make
>>>>> Therion workflow ‘comfortable’.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *????????
>>>>> ???????? via Therion
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 17 July 2017 7:55 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Cc:* Владимир Георгиев <vld.georg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer
>>>>> incomplete installs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> About the installer problems...
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I did the installer changes, here is that comes to mind:
>>>>> 1) I could try to make it more intelligent and to detect if there is
>>>>> an existing install location (all users or current user) and to install in
>>>>> the same one without the "All/Current user" prompt. This will probably not
>>>>> prevent all possible problems though.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Another solution would be to revert those changes and keep only the
>>>>> "All users" option, which requires admin privileges. This is how the older
>>>>> installers worked and always installed in Program Files.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to that, there could be a portable edition of Therion,
>>>>> which is distributed as a ZIP file and the user would only need to extract
>>>>> it in a folder. There would be no association to the TH, TH2 and THCONFIG
>>>>> file extensions of course. Currently the code reads the install location
>>>>> from the Win registry, but it could be made to search for files in the
>>>>> current folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have an opinion on what would be most useful?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you use the portable option, or the "Current user" installer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Vladimir
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