Hi Everyone, It's solved, I found a way of commenting out enough of the information at a higher level in Survex to allow Therion to take a .3d file with the right amount of information that it can cope with. This means that the UTM30N data was running through Survex (for MarniosaOld) and this was the same cs that I was using for the Silvestre Data.
I'm sure I could use the Calibrate function, just as a case in point if you would like me to run it again with the limited .3d dataset to prove its use? thanks for all the help, as a reward I've got a lovely KML file. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xIOHqp5ypJOUda_AZzf-ypYqArseJsAZ&usp=sharing I'll need to tidy up the survey, as the KML is not coming out correctly. we've got a few things to solve when we return next year. but it adds to the fun. Regards, Alastair Gott. alastairg...@hotmail.com, M: 07931779380, From: Therion <therion-boun...@speleo.sk> on behalf of Wookey via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> Sent: 14 November 2018 22:59 To: Andrew Atkinson via Therion Cc: Wookey Subject: Re: [Therion] Add Coordinate data back at last level of Survey Hierarchy? On 2018-11-14 20:36 +0000, Olly Betts via Therion wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 07:07:50PM +0000, Andrew Atkinson via Therion wrote: > > I've not had time to play with this, since Alistair showed me the problem > > on the weekend. The bit that I cannot get my head round is when 3d are > > imported with a coordinate system, if a th centreline then connects 2 parts > > of the survey from the 3d or an entrance coordinate is specified for the > > 3d, how does this change, or can it change the coordinates of the data from > > the 3d as the stations from this already has coordinates with little > > information about the connections [I hope that makes sense] > > Survex .3d files record the coordinate system the data is in, if one was > specified. This was added in Survex 1.2.14 (released 2014-07-05). Right, and that is metadata saying, effectively, 'the numbers in this file should be considered to be in a co-ordinate system starting at X,Y on the planet, oriented this way'. > But looking at the therion source code, it appears therion never makes > use of this information. I suspect therion just hasn't been updated for > Survex gaining coordinate system support. > > You can specify the coordinate system as an option to therion's import > command, so for now I guess that's what you have to do. Right, but (if I understand this correctly), that option does not change the numbers in the file. They must be valid for the cordinate system given in the import command. This info effectively says where the origin for the co-ordinates in the file are to be interpreted-as (and stuff about axis angles). So let's say that your survex data was processed in 'local' co-ordinates so it just starts from 0,0 in arbitrary 'nowhere' co-ordinates. What Alistair wants to do is read that in, but use it with therion data that is in real-world co-ordinates (UTM30N). The question is, can that be offset by some arbitrary number on reading-in so that it appears in the right place in the UTM30 co-ordinate system? Is a rotation needed too? Adding a rune to the line saying 'this is already in UTM30' will not have the desired effect, because data in UTM30 doesn't necessarily start from 0,0, and even if it did, his survey presumably needs to be at some other co-ord withint that space. The import -calibrate x y z X Y Z command looks like it should do the right thing, so long as the axes are aligned, by shifting from x y z to X Y Z. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwookware.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C670640a1c1ed4a4e7bcd08d64a84fa34%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636778332323125751&sdata=nhNLhLsOQtUspK5BJMEYGjHCEXwPTIHWFA60VHl4L3Q%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
