Hi Marco

That is a good description.  I can see a wiki page developing from it. I don’t 
think I have seen similar information before?

It is a while since I played with TopoDROID.  Is it the intention that one 
TopoDROID sketch produces, or is equivalent to, one matching pair of Therion 
scraps (plan and elevation)?

I am interested in the data naming conventions you use, to facilitate the 
tracing of parent and child object relationships (ie data files (TopoDROID and 
Therion) through to survey and scrap, for example).

And I should just check exactly what you mean by ‘mid-line’?  I have always 
been guessing. Is it the survey shot line that goes from ‘from station’ to ‘to 
station’?

 

Regards

Bruce

 

From: Therion <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marco Corvi via Therion
Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:41
To: [email protected]
Cc: Marco Corvi <[email protected]>
Subject: [Therion] topodroid to therion

 

Is there a workflow that is easy to use with ‘TopoDROID to Therion’ process, 
that also allows more than one scrap per survey trip file?  With limited 
experimentation (and making assumption that TopoDROID ‘sketches’ might be 
approximately equivalent to Therion ‘scraps’), I have not yet found a way that 
is easy to implement and encourages a naming convention that eases tracing of 
scraps to their parent TopoDROID file.  And breaking existing scraps into 
smaller scraps is a task I find unnecessarily tedious, when one could just have 
drawn smaller scraps in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious?  What are experienced Therion users who 
subsequently became proficient with TopoDROID as a data collector doing in this 
space?

 

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topodroid has many features requested by users that probably use other programs 
than therion to draft their

cave maps,

 

anyways, i use therion for my cave maps, and here is what i do.

 

(0) a note3 with a stylus: reasonable compromise between the size of the 
android and that of the caves (lucky surveyors might go for a 7" tablet)

(1) enable only drawing tools that are supported by therion, otherwise i must 
go for metapost code

(2) each topodroid survey can have many sketches, and i usually draw several 
sketches, except for very simple surveys.

(3) switch off fractional 'extend"

(4) switch off loop closure compensation: better see potential blunders

(5) i usually use "normal" line style, and the decimation button to simplify 
them (if need arises)

(6) pre-exporting: check every sketch with joining sketches using the sketch 
outline feature, and make then fit nicely

(7) it may happen that a sketch needs to be splitted in two, but this is rare 
as i'm used to draw small sketches.

i never user sketch merge

(8) i use automatic station points, even if, unfortunately,

topodroid puts in all the stations in the convex hull of the sketch, and there 
can happen spurious ones. i do not remember if midline hide helps for this, 
however, midline hide is something i use only when the midline is very messy, i 
usually go over the station points and remove those that do not belong to the 
piece of midline of the skatch: this is easily done with a "good" text editor

(9) i usually do not use "line continuation", but i fix the gaps between wall 
lines with point line editings (snap to point and merge with line). i sometimes 
use the feature that shifts a portion of a line, but i find often easier to 
redraw the line and erase the old one.

(10) i have the feeling that outline is no longer very important to therion (it 
is however for csurvey, but this is ot on this list), thus i do not pay much 
attention that wall lines are properly oriented. anyways when i notice a line 
should be reversed i do it, as it's quick

(11) automatic export because it's a nuisance to export each sketch

(12) ... other things i do not recall at the moment

 

marco

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