I disagree that Superman's a tired character.  His part of the DC Universe
has some of the more interesting story elements.  I think his origin is
awesome, and I don't think it's irrelevant.

What parts would you change if you had the power to do so?

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Cary Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does DC have no other hero they can market? The movies have ranged from
> campy to boring to just plain bad. Not to offend the fans, but he's just a
> tired character. The storyline isn't compelling or relevant any longer, and
> the character is just too entrenched to pull off a reboot changing enough of
> his origin to make him intriguing.
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Michael Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Luthor is necessary, at least in the first film.  And I think the time is
>> ripe for a new origin.  Actually, if it were up to me here is what I would
>> do.  It would be a trilogy and go a little something like this.
>>
>> SUPERMAN
>>
>>
>>    - Show Jor-El making his plea, places son in rocket, launches it into
>>    space, Krypton dies (15 minutes or so)
>>    - Ship spirals through space dissolves to a football spiraling through
>>    the air, Pete Ross catches it, little bit of Smallville the day before 
>> Clark
>>    leaves, scene with Jonathan and Clark, shows him the ship, does not know 
>> he
>>    is from Krypton (15 minutes or so)
>>    - Jump to Metropolis, Clark at the Daily Star trying to work for the
>>    planet, covers a press conference on top of Metropolis city hall, mayoral
>>    candidate (who is secretly in the pocket of Luthor), meets Lois, press
>>    conference ends, Clark leaves, armed men show up, Lois is knocked off of
>>    building, enter Superman.
>>    - Superman on Earth!  Luthor takes notice, Clark gets job at Planet,
>>    starts digging into Luthor
>>    - Luthor realizes that this Superman guy is going to be a problem,
>>    dusts off plans for a cyborg, finds this mysterious meteorite to power it,
>>    enter Metallo!
>>    - Superman and Metallo fight.  Superman loses.
>>    - Kryptonite somehow allows him to add to his physcial form,
>>    Superman's first experience with Kryptonite.  Wonders WTF.
>>    - Another big fight with Metallo, Clark exposes Luthor, friendship
>>    with Lois begins.
>>    - At the end Superman is the hero, Luthor is one the run, Metallo is
>>    in custody and Superman doesn't know where he is from.
>>
>> SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL
>>
>>
>>    - Superman vs. Brainiac.  Learns of his origins based off of
>>    Brainiac's stealing of Kandor
>>    - Relationship between Lois and Clark deepens, Lois torn on her
>>    feelings for Clark and Superman
>>    - Lots of robots fights
>>    - Brainiac is scary, teams with Luthor after first probes fail.
>>    - Third act takes place on Brainiac's ship.  Luthor ends up betraying
>>    Brainiac, Superman defeats him, gets bottle city of Kandor, swears to
>>    enlarge it someday.
>>    - Builds Fortress.
>>
>> SUPERMAN: THE LAST SON OF KRYPTON
>>
>>
>>    - More of Krytpon's past revealed throughout the movie.  Superman
>>    finds Phantom Zone projector at the beginning of the film.
>>    - ZOD appears.  Tries to snow Superman.  Superman thinks he has found
>>    a long lost friend of his father.
>>    - Lots of fighting.  Lots of backstory involving Krypton and the fact
>>    that Zod was responsible for the destruction of Krypton.
>>    - Zod releases two more inmates, trash planet.  Try to kill Superman
>>    and leave him for dead.
>>    - "General, would you care to step outside?"
>>    - Superman gets inmates back into the Zone.  Full origin known.  At
>>    peace with human and Kryptonian origins.
>>    - All is well.
>>
>> At least that's how I would do it.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:24 PM, twilitezoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Retelling the origin would be a waste of precious time for this film.
>>> How about rework "a little" the Brainiac storyline that recently ran
>>> in Action. That could be your trilogy right there. One more thing, NO
>>> LUTHOR!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 9:21 am, "Terry Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > I think having Superman beat some faces in with his powers would help
>>> make
>>> > the next Superman film better.
>>> >
>>> > :)
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Michael Bailey
>>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > It sounded interesting until the ending, which I think would blow
>>> Dolphin
>>> > > chunks.
>>> >
>>> > > Seriously?  This is his solution to SUPERMAN RETURNS?  Doing the same
>>> damn
>>> > > idea that Elliot S! Maggin came up with fifteen years ago for a
>>> Superman
>>> > > film?
>>> >
>>> > > Sigh.
>>> >
>>> > > You know what would make a good Superman film?  New take on the
>>> origin,
>>> > > solid writing, a director that gets both character and action and
>>> Brandon
>>> > > Routh.  That's not "it" but it's freaking close.
>>> >
>>> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:27 PM, ScottC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >>
>>> http://io9.com/5071161/wanteds-millar-reveals-ending-of-his-epic-supe...
>>> >
>>> > > --
>>> > > This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman Apologist
>>> >
>>> > > Hey, I have a podcast
>>> >
>>> > >http://www.viewsfromthelongbox.com
>>> >
>>> > > Hey, I have a comic book blog.
>>> >
>>> > >http://www.fortressofbaileytude.com
>>> >
>>> > > Hey, I'm on the Unique Geek
>>> >
>>> > >http://www.theuniquegeek.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman Apologist
>>
>> Hey, I have a podcast
>>
>> http://www.viewsfromthelongbox.com
>>
>> Hey, I have a comic book blog.
>>
>> http://www.fortressofbaileytude.com
>>
>> Hey, I'm on the Unique Geek
>>
>> http://www.theuniquegeek.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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