So...it's a bad example, since it had a much lower budget and more potential 
for profit.? Watchmen may make the same box office numbers as Daredevil, but it 
won't make as high a profit.? I'm glad thinking about Daredevil helped you find 
some research, but you must now concede it is against your point!? You're as 
blind as old Matt Murdock himself!

It's like saying traffic cones are like oranges.? They're both similar in 
color, but there's no vitamin c in a pylon, shag!? There's no vitamin c in a 
pylon!

Hellboy II is probably a better example.? Like, there's a movie that did fair 
to middlin based on a tiny core fanbase.? Mom and dad didn't come out to see 
it.? In your link-guy's analysis, it was only made due to the fierce will of 
the director, but he doesn't mention the truth!? It was made because Pan's 
Labyrinth was so huge.? It was almost advertised as a sequel to PL more than 
Hellboy.

All of these movies that did well had some kind of popular momentum leading up 
to them, mostly hot Spider-Man movies.? 300 had a GREAT marketing campaign (and 
looked like nothing else). Those commercials and posters were everywhere. Some 
of the movies have star power and legs, like Iron Man's big deal was that it 
stuck around.? It had week after week of big box because of good word of 
mouth.? It was fun and cool.? Most of these movies had big openings and 
dropped. 
?
What does Watchmen have going for it?? There's no star, there's no star dying 
just before the movie (what luck that was!), there's no character anyone's 
heard of, there's no catch-phrase in the marketing campaign, there's no unique 
look.? The preview is just ok.? Kind of confusing and looks like a "gritty" 
music video.

It's "momentum" comes from nerds hailing it as the work that gives comics 
"literary merit," and, WB hopes, from Dark Knight doing so well.? But I don't 
think the Batman crowd are into it.? Like, moms and dads and high school kids 
haven't been dressing up as Rorshach for Halloween for seventy years.

The GN is selling huge, and that is hard to discount, but I think many of the 
people who bought the GN do not like it and don't see what the big deal is.?? I 
think the movie will confuse and disappoint and won't have legs or word of 
mouth.? The open will be decent, $45?? Less?? and then it will drop off.? Maybe 
it will do better overseas, since they are into "art" over there, but ma and pa 
Olive Garden are going to dislike it.? I think the enthusiasm of comics people 
is driving normals away!

Maybe I am not taking the power of Wil Wheaton's killer review into account.

So, Shag and I are of the same opinion, he just chose a weak example at first.


-----Original Message-----From: Shag <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 9:06 pm
Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Watchmen movie acceptance - Speculation











I think Daredevil is still a good example.  It grossed $179 million, $101 of
which was profit.  That's pretty good.  However, it certainly didn't do
nearly as well as other comic book properties... 

Dark Knight - $997 million gross; $812 million profit
Spider-Man 3 - $890 million gross; $632 million profit
Spider-Man - $821 million gross; $682 million profit
Spider-Man 2 - $783 million gross; $583 million profit 
Iron Man - $571 million gross; $431 million profit
Fantastic Four - $330 million gross; $230 million profit

Even Ghost Rider made $220 million and that was CRAP!

Hellboy II is an interesting example.  I think it's fair to say that Hellboy
II had more advertising/merchandise out there than Watchmen does right now.

Hellboy II - $99 million gross; $14 million profit margin

So between the Daredevil and Hellboy II examples, I think Watchmen will be
lucky to make the same $179 million that Daredevil did.  Also, rumor is that
Watchmen cost over $100 million to make.  And how much will Warner Brothers
have to pay Fox when it's all said and done?


Here is a link for some more data on Superhero movie revenues.
http://max-bro.net/2008/09/09/what-are-the-most-profitable-superhero-movie-f
ranchises/


The Irredeemable Shag 
http://onceuponageek.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Cary Preston
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Watchmen movie acceptance - Speculation


Raven was right- Daredevil grossed $179,179,718  worldwide, over $100
million domestically. That's eye popping for such a sub-par movie.







 


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