You don't invest in something that has no intrinsic value- art's value is strictly in subjective, not objective. It's basically worth whatever someone will pay for it, and while supply is finite demand isn't assured because of the transient value of pop art. If the market were wider (as other forms of art) there would probably be some appreciation, but I can't think of anyone that truly views art purchases as investments. Look at Beanie Babies- if you wait long enough, the supply is guaranteed to shrink, but will anyone be interested in pop culture like that by this time? You buy something like this because of it's value to YOU, not it's expected value to others.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Bailey <[email protected]>wrote: > I'll agree more with definition one than definition two. With the way the > comic back issue market is going, even for Golden Age books which are doing > well but that could change at any moment, I would not invest in something > like this because the re-sell possibilities are limited. It might be hard > to move, especially since you would have to charge over a million dollars to > make a profit. Plus, with the way society seems to be going in everything > being digitial and people not wanting a physical object if they can have the > same thing on an iPod, a harddrive, etc. I don't know what the long term > possibilities for such a purchase would be. > > So the main reason to buy it, for me at least, is because of what it is not > what it is worth. Personally unless I was STUPID rich and had enough money > to blow a million dollars on a comic book I would not go for a copy of > ACTION #1. Sure it's the first appearance of my all time favorite character > but that thing is not a collectible it's a responsibility and I'm not sure I > would be up for that. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> I agree that S&D for non-essentials can be highly subjective, however i am >> trying to look at this particular comic in 2 ways, and get the ThUG reaction >> to these, who feels it fits more in definition 1 or definition 2 below... >> >> 1st: This is an objet d'art. The Holy Grail for some (read Michael Baley >> here), and therefore they will pay not only what they deem it is actually >> worth, but they will pay an additional premium for that item. This >> premium flies completely in the face of logic as this is not just an >> investment, this is a "Capstone". That is where the subjectivity comes in >> and i agree. >> >> 2nd: This is an Investment. It is for all intents and purposes a different >> kind of stock certificate, or more precisely a non-coupon bond. Therefore, >> for a "true investor" who is looking for a place to park a sizable stack of >> cash, they look for the best return with the lowest risk. This would qualify >> based on past performance (13.5% return annually for 15 years). However, >> past performance is no guarantee for future performance. Will this continue >> to increase in value? Strict Supply and Demand laws at work here. >> >> Again, just an interesting thought. >> >> My comic collection...If sold in whole, i suspect would yield maybe a >> couple thousand dollars TOPS. >> ** >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jennifer M. Smith < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think that the law of supply and demand is more consistent for needs >>> (e.g. water, food, shelter, etc.); however, when it comes to wants (e.g. >>> comic books), demand is highly subjective to the individual. >>> >>> >>> >>> What do you think the rate of return is on your comic collection? >>> >>> Dr. Jen >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Serv <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/22/news/companies/superman_comic/index.htm >>>> >>>> As an person always fascinated by economics in general and profit >>>> making specifically, i find this kind of interesting. The article says >>>> that in 1995 THIS particular issue of Action Comics, (which the CGC >>>> Universal Grade lists as an 8.0) sold for $150,000.00, so in 15 years >>>> is sold for $1 million, that is an annual rate of return of 13.5%. A >>>> VERY impressive return for the initial buyer (Investor). So on the one >>>> hand i ask, is this object worth $1 Million? I can make an argument on >>>> both sides. Yes it is worth it because this is a VERY limited quantity >>>> (economics 101, supply and demand) and they are not making any more >>>> Action Comics #1 1st runs. On the other side, this is a comic book, >>>> albeit featuring the first appearance of the most widely known super >>>> hero ever, but still a comic. Additionally, just like any investment, >>>> i am not so sure that a 13.5% rate of return can be counted on to >>>> continue...Objects like this have high value, but it can be argued >>>> that they have a 'Ceiling' value that no one will pay above. >>>> >>>> Just found this interesting. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jennifer M. 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