This is the main point. Maybe we are confusing whether it was a "good" movie vs. whether or not it was a profitable movie. Ultimately, the "good" part is personal. I, like Luke, think Starship Troopers is one of the best movies ever made. I think that maniac who came on here savaging it because it wasn't like the book was totally coconuts.
Terrible movies get sequels. Big Momma's House 3, fer chrissake. But those terrible movies that got sequels made money at some point prior to the sequel. They were profitable. Green Lantern will not be for a very long time, if ever. There will be no licensing from it. No one in Illinois is going to line up to buy Big Gulp cups with Tomar Re on them, kids aren't clamoring for a Lego Oa. I'm sure Reese's regrets their too-early involvement. But, yes, Luke, what ultimately matters is your own personal experience with a movie. With GL, you will have to accept it's all you're going to get. -----Original Message----- From: Luke <[email protected]> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 1:30 pm Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Superhero box office chart One of the other realities here which we have not mentioned is that reen Lantern is going to face a tougher road than its competition as ell. Cars 2 is right around the next turn (see what I did there) and isney Pixar should never be underestimated, especially in the wake of he big numbers of Toy Story 3, and when considering the crossover ppeal of the Cars property. The other reality is that any one individual viewer's reaction to a ilm has nothing to do with how the film performs. If I liked the film t was because I thought it was a fun movie, not because I am esperately hoping it succeeds. "A song is a song, ya either dig it r ya don't." On Jun 20, 4:17 pm, James Peluso <[email protected]> wrote: DC still has the top grossing movie in that genre with The Dark Knight. And when The Dark Knight Rises comes out it's going to blow the numbers off the chart. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:15 PM, James Peluso <[email protected]>wrote: > Does this kill the potential of other "B-list" DC characters getting their > own Movie? > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote: >> See, I am of the opinion that Hollywood will make anything, whether it's a >> money loss or not. We have plenty of examples in the past 10 years. Despite >> the reviews and box office, I still think there could be a sequel. I don't >> base this on the fact that I'm a Green Lantern fanboy, even though I am not >> a Hal Jordan fan. I base this, again, on the stupidity and mindlessness of >> Hollywood. >> ---------------------------------------- >> Have a Better One, >> Edward Crosby >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Also, GI Joe was a much better movie than Green Lantern. >>> Oh wait, I was "supposed to like that" so my opinion is invalid. >>> On Jun 20, 4:03 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > It's got similar opening figures (and similar critical scorn) to GI >>> Joe: >>> >http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gijoe.htm >>> > That dog is getting a sequel. I wouldn't stake the house on it, but I >>> wouldn't be surprised if they do make a sequel for Green Lantern. Reynolds >>> is already talking about a plot. >>> > On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> > > It's very clear they had a sequel "planned." The movie was presented >>> as a "tentpole," a launching point for a "franchise" but there is NO >>> AUDIENCE lined up to see it. It had bad buzz and bad numbers. What is >>> wrong with you guys? I know you have your Green Lantern pillows and love o >>> hold them to your faces and feel the cool cloth and and the soft cotton nd >>> say, "Oh, Gween Wanter, I wuv ooo. No one understands you like I do. Fly >>> anywhere, Hal. Take me anywhere in the whole world!" but America does not >>> feel that way. >>> > > People can be taught to care about things they don't know about >>> beforehand, but they need a good guide and not a boring, blobby guide with >>> mask that doesn't fit. >>> > > You will NOT see the headline, "Ryan Reynolds signed to GL sequel" >>> anytime in the anytime. I'm sure people will be fired over this dog. Have >>> been fired. >>> > > If there's a sequel, it will be direct to DVD with puppets. >>> > > You are overestimating the "magical avenues of distribution." Those >>> avenues are clogged and shrinking. Making a movie doesn't equal immediate >>> fame and riches because people watch them on cell phones now. If you pend >>> a METRIC TON of money on a movie, you better have a huge opening weekend o >>> justify it. >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: Cary Preston <[email protected]> >>> > > To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]> >>> > > Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 12:41 pm >>> > > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Superhero box office chart >>> > > This. Even absolute stinkers can turn a handy profit when you >>> consider all avenues of distribution. With Hollywood in the mire of >>> sequel-mania (and apparently grasping for movie ideas) I wouldn't be >>> surprised if they have a sequel already planned. >>> > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Michael Bailey < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> You act as if this was the only money the film is going to make. >>> Are they pulling it from theaters and I wasn't aware of this. And what >>> about international numbers? Has it been released overseas? Plus there re >>> the DVD sales to consider. I doubt that WB would just dump this and movie >>> on. >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:23 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> It did very badly. The budget was much higher than X-Men, and the >>> marketing budget easily added another $100 million to that number. So...it >>> will end up making maybe $80 on a $300 dollar investment. There's no hance >>> of a sequel. >>> > >> X-Men had good reviews and held over decently. It's also part of an >>> established franchise. It didn't overwhelm, but if they make a sequel and >>> put Wolverine in it, they'll make a few bucks. There's history and the >>> numbers in relation to the budget inspired hope. >>> > >> GL had nothing for anyone to hold on to unless you count the hope >>> that ten thousand people fell in love with Sinestro and can't wait to see >>> him be the bad guy next time. Spoiler warning - they didn't. >>> > >> The only thing WB can cling to is they were the "number one movie in >>> America" that week. They may even throw some more money in the toilet >>> advertising that fact. More good money after bad. >>> > >> I'm glad you enjoyed it. I knew Luke would, he likes everything. I >>> knew Van would, he has books to sell, but it won't be bothering us any ime >>> in the future. We won't have Hal Jordan to kick around any more. >>> > >> GL was a braying donkey. >>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>> > >> From: Michael Bailey <[email protected]> >>> > >> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]> >>> > >> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 8:31 am >>> > >> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Superhero box office chart >>> > >> That is interesting. All things considered and compared to the two >>> other super-hero films of the summer GL didn't too badly. That is a 2500 r >>> so dollar difference between First Class and they were talking sequel that >>> first weekend. >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Jason Service <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >> I thought that was very interesting! I wonder how Superman and >>> Superman II would rate in 2011 dollars...I think that would be even more >>> meaningful, to adjust for inflation. >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >> This is pretty interesting to view. >>>http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?view=openings&id=superhero.htm... >>> > >> ---------------------------------------- >>> > >> Have a Better One, >>> > >> Edward Crosby >>> > >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby >>> > >> -- >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >> -- >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >> -- >>> > >> This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman Apologist >>> > >> -- >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >> -- >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >> -- >>> > >> This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman Apologist >>> > >> -- >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. ... read more ยป- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- ou received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The nique Geek" group. o post to this group, send email to [email protected]. o unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. or more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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